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23 Feb 2006 @ 11:26 by swanny : Visual on that... 23 Feb 2006 @ 12:04 by swanny : Humanity """"" This thesis proposes that a proximity to Arcadia fashioned the sensibilities of the Greek Theatre as it in turn fashioned the Architecture of its important buildings: WITH Landscape, Architecture, Man - forming a tripartite relationship, each providing a necessary position towards THE OTHER in order to permit each an existence or even a presence in material form. """"" Nicole S. 2006 Earth I would change one thing perhaps MAN to HUMANITY! One small step for man, one giant leap for Humanity! This thesis proposes that a proximity to Arcadia fashioned the sensibilities of the Greek Theatre as it in turn fashioned the Architecture of its important buildings: WITH Landscape, Architecture, Humanity - forming a tripartite relationship, each providing a necessary position towards THE OTHER in order to permit each an existence or even a presence in material form. 23 Feb 2006 @ 14:45 by nraye : Yepp Arcadia is the region in the Peloponesse where the oldest inhabitants of the area, the Pelasgoi, originated. Pan is one of their gods. Pelasgoi period constructions have been found around the Acropolis in Athens, the whole cannon of classical literature is enfused with the notions of Arcadia. What an incredibly beautiful picture in the link, can it be put in live to the text???? It is through further studies that I believe the natural harmonies of the valleys, mountains, streams, goatherds and their sheep, inspired in them a sense of beauty. This area is in central Plateau, such areas safer from attack. They are considered not to be part of the Darian invasion which came from the North. The notion of Arcadia is central to the notion of classicism, both Greek and Roman, reverently so, it is inescapable, this is the beauty of it. The harmonies are the vibrations of all the different plants, birds, streams, moss banks, trees etc thriving in unison, each within their own small forms. The Wilderness (you obviously did not read my early poems?) is the wild barren lost landscapes which sings a different song (I have lived in the desert) but still with incredible life giving essences. But there is nothing there with which to describe plenitude. Therefore Arcardia is the articulation of the Chi in the wilderness and the oceans, and all the vast expanses we know Man adores, in one way or another. Honoured by your comments, etc and will have to Hmmm on them as they ALL say. Mostly wanting to know why, too! Only one jigsaw piece remember. OH yes, and to me it is fact, because so many other factors arise from it with ease. In our architecture circles, it is essential to buy heavily into the ideas of the other in order to get a handle on them in the first place. One cannot start deconstructing at the outset. :)) 23 Feb 2006 @ 14:51 by swanny : Image Yes I've only read some of your poetry the piece on the children thread is excellant so pressed in the mind though at times and so little time... I shrunk the image and will try posting like to give credit for it though I've forgotten where I got it.... gettin old I suppose  23 Feb 2006 @ 17:53 by swanny : Synergistic Architecture Well there is the aspect of a foundation and the architecture above... Foundational architecture requiring or cognizant of different considerations than bioarchitecture yet together forming a whole.  23 Feb 2006 @ 17:56 by swanny : Reality Which one being the real..?? Well they are both real but of different depth and appeal but both necessary to the coreality they create. 23 Feb 2006 @ 18:00 by swanny : Oh ? Oh heck who can say... 23 Feb 2006 @ 18:57 by swanny : Components The Foundation is Roman/French + and the main is German... compiled by a Canadian which equals "Heinz 57". hee hee 24 Feb 2006 @ 00:38 by swanny : Updated... Just updated given the number of buildings roofs collapsing (global warming) Oh I think the new roof may be "American" they got that "space" stuff covered pretty good them nasa guys. * ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** Well I must say, linquisticly there does not seem to be a problem for you Swanny on any of this - not bad at all! ;) 24 Feb 2006 @ 01:20 by swanny : Afterall... Afterall I suppose one shouldn't "tempt" nature either... speaking as a North American don't you know. You haven't lived till you've walked six blocks in 50 below with a wind at night in a blizzard. 24 Feb 2006 @ 12:47 by nraye : Underground Ideals do exist - when utilised then experienced there is assurdedly a sensation of deep comfort and support. Two residences come to mind, one old enough to have been the secret underground horses stables for the Knights Templars in Hammersmith. It is now a kitchen for a charming rest house attached to a unitarian church above which is a thriving, chic haute cuisine vegetarian restuarant plus grand piano in a large Modern Corbusien type room (huge picture window) onto inner courtyard. The other is the house W J M Turner, famous Romantic English Artist (late Georgian period, (neoclassic)) of early 19thC. This in St Margarets on the much poetised Richmond bit of Thames and which provided the fantastic skyline dramas, known as the Thames Effect (natural light reflections caused by local topograph) for his almost visionary paintings. Repeatedly we are informed that Sandycombe Lodge was designed and built by Turner himself. However, a reference in another of my books suggests strongly that the equally famous John Soane, architect of the original Bank of England, (the story of which would fascinate the Dear Vaxen NCN, underpinning all his references in BUILT FORM no less, thus removing any scope whatever for argument against his Cause) actually was the designer and very close friend of William Turner. Both had their origins in fairly humble backgrounds while rising to Society's heights and reknown. In the Turner House, my flat was a few yards away, the basement section, an intrinsic extension to the classical design(name of type momentarily slips me) two rectangles superimposed with in a circle), is a kitchen dining storing area of exceptionally cosy ambiance. Of course nearly every period house in London has a basement, but none compare even closely with that of the above references (regardless cost invested to do so). The precise configuration, in relation to the rest of the building, appears to be crucial. Therefore in summary, the above experient could prove to be a worthwhile exercise. If there is to a global warming, the underground areas do provide natural cooling and the Roman Hypercaust system of heating could be with appropriate materials be transformed into Neo Roman Hyper Cooling. These would require air towers, such as used historically in desert and arid lands. 6 Mar 2006 @ 15:03 by nraye : BOULLEE Etienne Louis, conflicting references: According to the best and most recent monograph by Jean-Marie Perouse de Montclos, Boulle was a successful practicing architect. Two other books contradict this, so what does one do apart from head for the largest libraries in town? 6 Mar 2006 @ 16:05 by swanny : Mystery man My info suggests that he was a artist(painter) that was forced into architecture by his father but never really practiced apart from some minor works and mostly theorized. So in a sense he philosiphized about architecture rather than built anything. He was hence an architectural philospher. Interesting philosphy to be sure as I thought it was a more recent regime. As this was in the 19th or 18th centuries. It is said though that his "theories and philosphies" were quite "influencial" and he had a great love or obcession of sorts for the sphere and something else ...??? oh yes "talking architecture" I think it was. Not sure what his take on that was though. I wonder if thats the begining of the internet or "global" then in terms of architecture that is living or talking or fluid or liquid. hmmmm I don't know if anyone else may have apprised architecture to the degree of the whole world or biovillage except sir sanford flemming but he was an engineer and not an architect in the 1870s. 8 Mar 2006 @ 10:43 by nraye : Being a Joint project, went with choice of Boullee, but actually his Projects, which is the name for unbuilt work, and is not considered theoretical, are actually anthithetical to my thesis and understanding. Who else would ever know? Except an expert in Le Grec. The reason being that the huge smooth surface of the inside of the dome seeks to magnify a point in sound to such a degree that it overwhelms the individual and reduces his capacity to think etc. While of course the harmful rays or noise pollution on the exterior will be dispersed in an extremely efficient manner affecting all around. This is the purpose of decoration to difuse the pollution, almost inactivate it, but certainly not send it off and on elsewhere adinfinitum, but to give off a countering image. Boulee was the start of a totalitarian architecture using the only known forms and styles of classicism. It is not admired at all, and because of it, being really bad classicism, classicism has in some cases been simply judged on this basis, which is most unfortunate because no one builds like this anyway. It was touching to have someone supply a pic and then to put inside an arcadian vision, it does kinda give a very simplistic idea in a complex way (not my style) to those with no idea at all, so I had to go with it, it seems to be the way of NCN. Oh and Boullee was 18th Century like 1780 or something, he is in the Grand Beaux Arts tradition which was the great school of architecture of the time, for a long time, which literally flourished, and which people still today pay millions to enjoy the fruits of to the envy of the rest of the world. So you see every, everything is relative dear friend, when selecting an illustration in a joint project, just where does one put one's loyalties??? The smooth Dome actually creates total cacophany internally, depending on material used. 8 Mar 2006 @ 15:52 by swanny : Loyalties Don Juan said to follow a path with a heart. I think the same is ultimately true in architecture... One or I strive to follow not only architecture but that which resonates with the heart. Now where has that led me? Hmmm well I did plan and build a solar log cabin but that was 30 years ago and sadly the owners have let it fall into disrepair. I have a plan and design for a solar bungalow that I am itching to finish and work out and build but sadly I am to old and tired and broke perhaps now so... it goes astray. So I try to be loyal to my hearts musings when I can. 8 Mar 2006 @ 16:04 by swanny : Health... Oh one insight that did emerge from this was the question if "good" architecture is "healthy" architecture. I was referencing this then to the diagnostics in medicine of benign vs cancerous tumors. It seems in medicine the telltale factor to "health" is symmetry. A symmetrical tumor is most always benign where as cancerous ones are typically asymmetrical. Interesting then the emmergence of this symmetrical global biovillage design. So healthy? yes according to medicine good? well difficult to say. And yet how or what does that say of nature... Well there is "Phi" in nature as well. It illudes me still. 10 Mar 2006 @ 16:05 by nraye : Loyalities First: In the art of discussion to develop the notion of an opposite of what one intends in an explanation of something is a totally acceptable form of rhetoric. This can very quickly convey the issues as has happened here, which is all really rather good. There was never an doubt in my mind what I was about, so this was the control. Health Second: There is Phi in nature as well, I call it Ionic, and the style of architecture known as Ionic, I believe recognises this and permits it ingress into the stone, giving it notions of presence it does not otherwise have, and actually adding to its essence; these ingresses and notions, are considered to be extremely beautiful, the curved shell type column capitals, the fluted columns, suggest a movement in the firmament, breath/prana of life necessity before food, freshness of life quality. Going into opposites again, a well known Japanese architect did the "Anti dwelling box". It was box of round iron bars. See how this feels after long contemplation, your log cabin may automatically materialise! It was a co project Swanny, you should be pleased, it is all valid. 10 Mar 2006 @ 16:16 by swanny : Ecofarm Well something has sort of "popped" up A group is in the process of constructing an ecofarm and school and cafe some 70 miles north of here. They're looking for "investors". Sounds "dreamy", sadly, and seems to lack a realistic footing and will probably fail. Unless well.... not sure.... Ionic you say... yes quite phi-ish or quasi phi-ish as I recall from technical school. Yes this phenomenum of creating the opposite is common in film as well when a film creates an effect that was not intended. Can't recall the name off hand. oh and one more thing .... My Observatory site .... seems the beginning perhaps of maybe a "GLOBAL BIOSYSTEM MONITORING STATION" Thanks .... you're somewhat inspiring Ionic Image 
ed ****** Ed, you are not going to give up I see. So as we are onto loyalites now, you will not be upset to hear that the beautiful column, surprise of surprises to me with smiles, is a ROMAN one. The two classicisms are not the same. Greek is a Feminine Giving classicism and the Roman a Paternal ordered rational one. They took the Greek forms in many aspects without real comprehension of what they were about, in Literature, architecture, scuplture. they created an indentical Pantheon of Gods (12) and yes I do know all the equivalents - but latin is a totally different language poetically to ancient greek. I am sure you will not mind my telling you this? Hope you see it. ++++ Did you mean Chi or Phi or Pie root squared etc??? 10 Mar 2006 @ 17:04 by swanny : A 440 Just a note... Reread the intro and the thesis of sound and architecture Now in musical theory a 440 hz is arbitrarily considered the reference tone and the tone of "perfect" pitch. So Phi + Perfect Pitch would be 1.618033988... + 440 hz = ? well you have a visual perfection with a temporal and tonal perfection would give one arcadia? Arcadia though ? does it have any tonal or muscial conotations or references. Probably the sounds of nature. The sounds of Nature? The sounds of arcadia and architecture? The sounds of the ocean and tides and a waterfall well anyway just trying to return to topic. The Greeks and Romans Amphitheatre were noted though for the Acoustic properties as well. very highly advanced acoustic engineering. Any way just some notes ed ****************** The Romans spoiled the greek amphitheatres, changed the properties, more suited to comedy and larking about, or they just copied. The Greek amphtheatres are the real biz. Don't get to carried away over Roman architecture. The only real Feminine components they brought were the Arch and the Roman lettering, this almost becomes a science in its own artistic right. Effects the body differently. Moves away somewhat from poetry and harmony. Nicola ******** Sounds of Nature - these so far flow interrupted in their own frequencies. Excellent try here, unfortunately have no way or acces to getting them proven. Just because Man in White coat says so - is not my system. I want the sound to prove it alone, free of MAN except by a machine on the sound. Otherwise it cannot be trusted. Nicola 10 Mar 2006 @ 17:46 by swanny : Stradivarius Actually now that recall Stradivarius used phi in the building of his violins. links = [link] link2 = [link] * * * * * * 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 Well, well, Yes know of the 2nd link but this brings us to the Golden Rectangle which was never used in Greek architecture. The key which I found to unlock my thesis exists in an interpretation of a statue. I was trying to put back the wings on the Victory Nike statue and wondered How I might know in advance the stance of the wings. While the drawing the body, flowing robes etc and studying statues, one in particular looked as if it contained a coded message in drawing a certain way. This statue is the key, which as it happens ties with the Modular Man of le Corbusier. Tantalising to read of the Violin and all its strings etc. But according to my understanding written in another jigsaw piece, (I use piano, music is only a REFLECTION of the condition, it is not THE condition of the human body. You are doing extremely well Swanny with this bone! I will pass on credits if necessary. ******** G I A N T error Here - mea culpa mea maxima culpa The Greeks did not know about Fibonnaci numbers at all which happen to coincide with the Golden Rectangle, which of course they DID use, this an inherent part of the five solids able to be contained within a circle, etc. Apologies for such huge mistake. My thesis is based on CIRCLES, invisible circles, hence mis quotation above of recent study. NICOA - 19th April '06 10 Mar 2006 @ 18:35 by swanny : Symmetry Found this wow... Musical notes and geometric shapes would both seem to impress themselves on the brain as a ratio of time intervals, and whilst this view is by no means universally accepted, it is strikingly similar to what the ancient Greeks believed. To the Greek Pythagorean and Platonist geometers, rhythmically repeated proportions produced symmetry in all consciously composed plans. To the Greeks moreover, symmetry was not merely the balance of disposition either side of an axis of symmetry, it was a harmonious and rhythmic blending of all aspects of the design. The Roman commentator Vitruvius summarises this situation admirably. "Symmetry resides in the correlation by measurement between the various elements of the plan, and between each of these elements and the whole. .. . it proceeds from proportion—the proportion which the Greeks called analogia—(it achieves) consonance between every part and the whole . .. When every important part of the building is thus conveniently set in proportion by the right correlation between height and width, between width and depth, and when all these parts have also their place in the total symmetry of the building, we obtain eurhythmy." 4 For the Greeks, rhythm and eurhythmy, were general concepts dominating aesthetics, music and metaphysics, and cadence and number were parts of the same whole. Ideal design was as in nature, a repetition of the basic building blocks put together in a balanced and harmonious way, giving consonance of similar shapes. For them architecture was living music, whose notation was the ratio of the walls to one another, and the balance of enclosed areas. Periodicity and proportion only exist under the aegis of time, and thus the appreciation of ancient architecture can only be attempted in a fluid manner. There is no rhythm or canon of proportions in the observation that buildings are a collection of rectangles; concurrence comes from an appreciation of their dynamism and interplay. A situation summarised by Matila Ghyka who believed that there are rhythms in time and space that are produced by the dynamic action of proportion on a uniform beat or recurrence, that was exemplified by the Platonic conception of Proportion, Rhythm, and Beauty.5 *********** W O W this is more than I ever found - H O W E V E R I am refering to the links to the human body and the ultimately the mind. I will study the above and get back. It may be time to replace the pic with an appropriate one. But not bothered if you are not. But I am not in any way asking anything, you are doing so much, cannot believe. My ellucidation is different, and I do enjoy tremendously talking it through. Yours is just a new route, so can leave mine for later. 13 Mar 2006 @ 14:32 by swanny : Phi Phi is the Golden Number The Golden Ratio The Golden Mean Mathematically it is 1.61803399... heres the good link = [link] I conceived of a phishere though Last June in 2005 link 1 = http://smallify.com/?000614@google link 2 = [link] Oh I am not offended perhaps a hint embrassed they both look somewhat the same to me from a distance. I don't always catch the details... Interesting distinction though the maternal and paternal aspect. Those Greeks though and I've met a few... like Greek food .... they certainly have a way... fellow made a ceiling tile roof so level and square you could play pool on it I bet. They had me do some art work in their restraunt and had the best pizzas and steak and lobster in town. You've got to watch them though they are extremely clever and shrewd but fortuneately have a sense of humor as well. Did the Romans have a sense of humor? So there is Greek Ionic and Roman Ionic? *** Really laughing, how do you keep up with me please???? The upper classes sought out Greek this and that philosophers etc and the Plebians got their vulgar comediies and slap stick to keep them happy. The Greeks did Theatre as part of hte Great Dionysis Festival, it was holy, a three day event, the theatre was in a Sanctuary, with temples and health spas, and everything needed to make peace with the gods and life. The maternal and paternal distinction is completely mine, and have reasons, many to say this. It reflects the Societies, US is paternal. UK used to be Paternal, now going Maternal, France is going Paternal, Germany went Maternal. A sort of waxing and waning, Greek perhaps Waxing Feminine with Greatest statuary etc from 460, it roughly works out. So you watching me as I write, I figured as much, by why, and who has the time for goodness sake??? *** There are two Ionics, but they are never spoken of such, because famous architects created their own ORDERS in architecture, for their own countries, there is even a French Orders of Classical Archtiecture, it is the aim for the Moon in Renaissance speak. I have to go now back later. 13 Mar 2006 @ 15:28 by swanny : Substance... Why bother... well it is at quite a distance but you seem to be a "woman of substance"... Not quite sure what that means mind you... not sure if I am a "man of substance"... so... well that brings it back to the now.... I think the "phisphere" is significant... although highly complex... the first "reference" without "definition" seems to be from around the year 2002 in Japan with regards to "shopping" Japan being maternal... although this is the web so who can say with certainty... far more uncertainty than is perhaps comfortable... comfort zones... nice to retreat to "high code"...? the pain subsides somewhat dulled perhaps by time... or... fate.... Accepting fate.... or...??? trying to grasp and simply the complex somewhat? "simplifing the complex".... an oxymoron of sorts... or "antinomy".... well enough for now.... now cheers ed 15 Mar 2006 @ 15:00 by nraye : Promised to check in, still smiling, you arrived ahead by two days less 25 minutes!! Laughing (me) - thank you for going all this way, really great; as for preferences there is light with no name. 18 Mar 2006 @ 17:46 by swanny : Howdy... A desert and then..... A clue? "Dynamic Symmetry" cool...  21 Mar 2006 @ 15:08 by swanny : From the Ramparts by N. 21 Mar 2006 @ 14:32 by nraye @80.176.105.234 : From the Ramparts From the Ramparts Of NCastleN: exploring the exterior landscape and views of a huge structure, in exile. It is not possible for me to get to my log, perhaps you could put this there? In the mind’s eye NCN is likened to a particular window on the world. Or rather windows, as many as the individual units allow and not the single entity of its sometimes’ claim. The window frame was first employed (designed) by the Venetians. They used it as a continuation of the building design in detail, to enhance or individualise pictorial contents of the owner. The Venetians can be said to be foremost amongst historical peoples in thinking up money making schemes as a means of island survival, the picture frame being one of many. (There is a current book on the survival tactics of Venice, another being when really out of pocket to offer residence to European Jews in order to attract their capital, the place given over to them was already named the Ghetto). Who’s to say if these views are prejudicial in any way? It has other claims to Ideas and Creatively. Do they not know the dependency of this on hotbeds of accidental ferment, complete tolerance and compassion between artists, making invisible bonds, foundations and gardens for the right things to grow? Venice was progressive in all the Arts, progressive artists sought its refuge and found patronisation. Venice was the recipient for 200 years between the sackings of Constantinople of the ancient Roman, Greek and Ahmeriac texts and artefacts, a vital staging post of the whole Renaissance movement. To recognise items of value from kindling wood is a giant step towards greater creativity for the good of all. That is, if the Renaissance is considered as such. Today in new yoga with closed eyes the invisible Arc from shoulder to shoulder appeared, (top of a square) these represent functionings lower down below the waist (bottom of the square) with the uppermost circle part being the mouth. So the Invisible circle of that square actually has a round solid mouth in its antithesis, is this not full beauty functioning The next invisible circles to appear were those on each side of the body, and where they overlapped, being in the most defended position, in that oval in a straight line was the spine. So that the outer sides of the body being part material and part invisible come together at the mid point as the extra solidity. Incredible, just to breathe into this area. The invisible square represents the logic and strength applicable and the round the materiality, just the thought seems to aid levitation!! The yoga increases the tensioning of the invisible rounds, aka awareness eventually into the infinite, and simultaneously firming the materiality corporeal, for they inextricably linked. And Function follows Form, not not visa versa. In achieving simultaneity in design the soundings of the material solidity, not an echo of a mountain hollow, but the invisible circles of the rectilinear forms (a tensioning) together with decorative detail either of structure or ornament (counteraction of free radicals) allows momentarily constant time in human awareness (a recognition between tensionings)(a similar reaction between horse and rider, in which here each carry an increased awareness based on two organic structures while functioning as one unit, to mutual pleasurability and intelligent advancement). This Swanny, is the method I would assess the rather excellent example of a modern building you placed in this project. That is without knowing what is going on inside with reinforced concrete slab structure with skin cladding. The ratio of window to façade outside is formed with a secondary grid of completely independent harmonic tensionings in their invisible circles, otherwise they would not be heard, not exist, or recognised through the eyes registered in the brain, and existing, for a brief moment in time. Say the window tensioning (in antithesis - window hollow) were identical, there would be a heavy compression feeling towards the structure as this tensioning would be felt by the sensitive, alive tensioning of the body. A dwelling box, very very cleverly found and selected. Aside: Classical build is seen to almost float in defiance of its bulk on the earth surface, and appear smaller than it is. The non-so is seen as an enormous thing, even if of glass and light, pressing heavily on the ground. Just to explain further, Gothic (Romantic) structure on the other hand is seen as emerging up from the great depths of the earth, everything about it strives upward, as if to free itself of any earth connotation whatever. 21 Mar 2006 @ 15:09 by swanny : Ionic? Hmm but is it still Ionic....?? Can you take some pics? It "sounds" somewhat PreIonic even though it came after. Maybe it is the "missing" "Ionic Link". Well never dreamed it would be found, never knew it existed. Is this what you have found? 21 Mar 2006 @ 15:33 by swanny : Missing Ionic Link... Well strangely theres a lot of info on missing ionic links but not much visuals that pertain. this is the closest although its .... well it is interesting but somewhat ? the picture might get lost so you should save it. Actually the discussions surrounding are kind interesting pertaining not so much to architecture but structure chemistry and biology, and casting and quartz and ? mean anything to you? I'm sort of a visual mode. ****** 'Nother nice one, Swanny. Thank you. I have been rereading up things Ionic, as always it draws one deeper and deeper, with emergence back to broad daylight being slightly disorientated. How to re write what one found, in the context of the above, and the conversation, to a meaningful stance? The rather unusual picture, not in Attic style at all, and NO, it does not relate to the Ionic in architecture, or literature at all. Actually it should be removed for being too misleading for the main topic which already has other way out illustrations!!! Good try tho. 24 Mar 2006 @ 11:43 by swanny : Phi Pattern Hi... Phi Pattern See: Link = [link] 17 Apr 2006 @ 08:45 by ambika : Perfecting spaces -- Hello Again -- Love these concepts and images--and feel for them. Want to be in these environments... Where?? Ambika ******* Big Smoke - 18th April 2006 - Ambika, they are ideas only, not real, the thoughts written pertain to the creating of an ideal within accepted philosophies - not much - but it does show the wealth of historical achievements for the West. - Nicola 18 Apr 2006 @ 13:35 by nraye : And they thought blurb was difficult! 19 Apr 2006 @ 13:11 by swanny : Hmmm As I thought a bad day. ed 20 Apr 2006 @ 14:17 by nraye : Logs missing here Two entries are missing from 19th April, just for the record. They were concluding logs. Next time I will not edit someone's comment in order to leave their name first on list on the Main Log Right Handside Indexer, I will make a new comment, unfortunately sending their's down one. How sad to do this to another's log. 20 Apr 2006 @ 14:28 by swanny : Sorry It was me... I did not want to clutter up your work with my babbling sorry I thought you would approve. ed ************* Thank you for apology, but to delete anothers words without asking. And, It was a really neat concluding remark and summing up. For me a rare lesson in how to talk Architecture to a kind of outsider, and any others just looking in - and this was a priviledge. I never talk down to people, but just explain. I was going to delete your links, the same three, but thought to leave it up to you. If you had, I would have reworded my concluding remarks to emphasise another lead in. No Trust here, after such a huge log too. 4 May 2006 @ 15:23 by nraye : On Boullee Further reading shows that his mind was certainly in the right place on what architecture should be able to do - unfortunately his designs like this Dome of his here, with adaptions by Swanny, ends up being the opposite of the intention. This is very interesting in an age which relied on the Senses of Architecture. I will be writing up on this when time allows, and the credit for discovering this will be to Swanny. This more than amends and makes for yet another twist. 4 May 2006 @ 16:38 by swanny : Well thankyou... And I celebrated my 50th birthday last week... although I suppose another claim to fame could be setting free a wild budgie. It did my heart good although I fear for her in the wilds of Canada. Yet perhaps 10 hours of freedom are better than none at all. Opps sorry off topic. Yes Boullee had something a grasp on something exceedingly complex perhaps, and yet I wonder if he utilized "phi" in his work. hi ho ed 888888888888888888888 Yes architects have birthdays, and usually they provide cake for everyone on the team. So this can be ON TOPIC easily. So many happy returns are wished for you Swanny. I wait for cake. SERIOUSLY, I want to ask if you could be conscientious about the space factor here, don't want to squander, especially if NOT on topic. So may I ask you to delete Ionic man and woman above here as being too detracting. They could be moved to the Erstwhile Conferie log with ease I am sure. This would mean using up all space on each line Swanny, is this too much to ask?? On the Boullee Discussion, alot was going on in France then, and I have also discovered the precise moment that Science split from Art and the Frankinstien man in white coat appeared. Basically they all subverted most of what Newton said, and just quoted HALF of his work everywhere - why am I not surprised????? Newton retained the work of God in all his equations, and this is the part edited out of every quote of his. 5 May 2006 @ 10:57 by swanny : Cake opps I knew I forgot something. Whats a birthday without cake. Hmmm well there was "pizza" and thats sort of cake. well one can not think of everything, Okay I shall try to use the whole line.... but my I quess my new glasses are somewhat shoddy or I'm just plain going blind. Ah the joys of aging. The energy of youth is wasted on the young. Topic. Topic. Who might the Frankenstein man be? Einstein? Well Newton was most clever. I still can't quite figure Calculus, although I'm sure it changed the world. You got it that precise aye? hmmmm you've got me curious now. 888888 YES, it includes the limitations of Calculus, it is the total reductionism of the building to nothing except functionalism through geometry, 3 d geometry, I think it is called something like "engineering". The Cake can at least be real, sweet and looking like Cake, nothing else will do for b'days. 29 May 2007 @ 06:58 by nour @213.255.224.27 : WHERE? hello ok all of this is great but i was not able to locate those pictures or know ho the architects are can you please let me know asap especially the picture titles howdy the floating building thank you 1 Jun 2007 @ 10:17 by nraye : Floating buildings . . ? Floating buildings are those to be perceived as such. This happens when the measurements and ratios between the components, designed sections in facades etc fall into divisions which spiral out to space thus freeing up the building. Those measurements which are too regular for instance, not setting up any vibrational pattern (to lift them up) will sink heavy onto the earth's surface and be supported by the earth totally. These type of buildings pull down the viewer too, their energy sinks into their feet like lead, and in these buildings people will feel tired quite easily. The 3/4 pattern in which both divide into 12 but only divides into 9 is a meeting point for fantastic opportunities of further divisions and increments in either the 4 or the 3 but which will always by default be transferred into another (musical) instrument of other dimensions completely (like a feminine earthly one) or the 4 type which represents the rational, square, masculine one. Thus a whole is created which is realised by reasonably educated humans of both sexes which brings a widening of awareness by default or association or understanding and comprehension into their lives without having to take a pill, a strong liquor or anything, but just to BE and REALISE the beauty of such a simple mathematical situation. Feeet and inches have just been given a reprieve from being banned from the English market place. This is a g reat step in the march for increased sense of Constant Time in the runaway market place and associated consumerism which zietgeist is carrying many people like a flood in its wake uncontrollably. Thank you for your comment. I do hope this assists. I will find some building names for you to check either in person or through illustration at your leisure. Time does not permit my combing through this log to try to establish that which you refer to. Thanks again for your comment. 1 Jun 2007 @ 13:19 by nraye : While Feminine is in discussion around here - this could be a useful moment to mention that in Form the feminine is invisible. The circle in actual fact becomes masculine simply by demarkation, the real circle is invisible and this is the feminine principle. The circles that can be created and shown to exist in certain designs are implied by the chief factors composing any given design or part of. This is how the Rationality of nature can be seen as masculine. The feminine "characteristics" are purely to do with growth, fluidity, and become an overpowering entity when left in nature to do what nature does. So a mere statue of Venus is only feminine by association not in actuality and here a huge anomally can arise as it indeed does with countless other mis associations for the entire idea of femininity. Indeed this mis association has a name called Feminism, which is far as I can see, is the complete opposite of what Feminine is supposed to be, and now we turn full circle (an invisible one correctly applying the term here, in true association).!!! Other entries in Housing, Building, Architecture 13 Jun 2006 @ 10:37: Roofs and Ceilings 16 May 2006 @ 10:35: American Architecture 31 Jan 2006 @ 13:08: The Wearable Home 1 Nov 2005 @ 15:52: Buy an underground city 25 Oct 2005 @ 23:03: New Orleans Arcology 17 Nov 2004 @ 23:30: 9/11 whistleblower fired 15 Apr 2003 @ 04:07: ideas please 29 Jan 2002 @ 12:52: Transparent concrete 6 Oct 2001 @ 05:02: Underground Living
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23 Feb 2006 @ 11:11, by Nigella Wraye