One Seeker's Journey: Whitley Strieber Notes on The Dark Side of the Visitors    
 Whitley Strieber Notes on The Dark Side of the Visitors13 comments
3 Dec 2003 @ 11:54, by Craig Lang

I just got finished reading Whitley's new journal entry: "Shedding Light on the Dark Side". In a way it's un-nerving. It portrays a very non-positive side the the close encounter phenomenon. Although it is still not at all clear what the agenda is, or even what close encounters are, Whitley suggests that recent events are taking a distinctly darker turn.

What has changed? Not sure. But I've generally noted that the CE4 phenomenon is a mixed bag: At once sinister and potentially enlightening. Like any challenge, it provides opportunities for enrichment, but it also can be a source of trauma. Apparently, from Whitley's latest journal entry, the traumatic aspect has been surfacing alot in recent times.

When hearing any person or publication that claims to have "the answers", my discernment flag goes all the way up the pole. So it is with Whitley's latest article. But he does have a point. The Visitors are nothing to be trifled with.

In everyone I know that has experienced contact, it has invariably been life changing. To anyone who says they want to experience contact, I caution: "Be careful what you wish for..." Once it begins, life will never be the same.

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3 Dec 2003 @ 12:15 by vibrani : Negative encounters
Craig, I have a question for that may come off differently from how I mean it - it's hard to word this because it's looking at it from a different perspective...what are your thoughts about abductees who have very negative experiences as having psychological/emotional problems that are excused by this phemonenon? And when their lives get more stressful, so do the encounters? Have you found if there is a parallel? I'm not saying people haven't had negative contact, and I seriously explore the possibility that some of these are creations solely in the mind of the experiencer through their own fear or feelings of martyrdom or victimhood or other reasons. A comparison to this can be seen in those who claim possession by the devil because it's an accepted thing, and also a way a person doesn't have to face their own inner demons, like dealing with an awakened sexuality in adolescence.

I have been around contact my entire life - personally and with friends. Those I saw who had on-going negative experiences were really messed up as people (and I can't say what came first, the chicken or the egg, you know?). I'm not saying everyone who had a negative experienced is nuts, either. I'm questioning a lot.

The only slightly negative thing I've experienced were two specific interactions with the Greys, but I was in full power over myself and nothing "bad" happened to me at all. I saw more negativity when it came to humans and what they do to other humans.

Can you say briefly what Streiber says is getting worse in the encounters, and do the ETs have anything to say about that from the reports he has? I'm also considering that if these are indeed created by ETs against some humans, something has changed that threatens the ETs.  

3 Dec 2003 @ 14:11 by craiglang : A Mixed Bag
Actually, I believe that the phenomenon is neither positive, nor negative. I think that it is pretty much orthogonal-to/independent-of our own value judgements. It is what it is... I also think that you are right in that alot of the meaning that we percieve in the phenomenon (as in many other experiences) is what we bring to the phenomenon ourselves.

I have worked with a number of people who have had some pretty severe contact trauma. And I have found that there has generally been a pre-existing ego state cluster formed that fostered the fear. This is usually fear of the unknown, initiated at a very young age by some very human influences. In the case of "Evelyn" in my article "The Meaning We Bring With Us", it was been engendered in her by fundamentalist minister who taught that anything unknown was diabolical.

The phenomenon has a tremendous impact on one's life - for better or for worse, and I believe that it acts as a catalyst to bring out our own emotions and spirituality. I have noted that it tends to be both a cause of - and an effect of - spiritual awakening. There is often a positive feedback cycle between one's predisposition and one's phenomenal experiences. e.g. if one has a positive outlook on things extraordinary (as you seem to) then encounters will by-and-large be positive. Conversely, if one's predisposition is toward negativity/fear then the encounters will probably be non-positive. The resulting experiences with the phenomenon then feed back to enhance that disposition.

I'm not sure what Whitley's actual experiences were. I have read his books, and the do seem more positive than what I've heard him say recently. So, rather than speak for him, I would suggest just following the link and see what he says. Maybe you will understand it differently from what I did, or find where you think he is wrong. I'd be interested to hear your comments on that.

Thanx again for your comments. They are very insightful.
Namaste,
-Craig  

3 Dec 2003 @ 14:18 by vibrani : Thanks, Craig
yeah, I also feel that what we bring with us influences our experiences. In my case, I think I once told you, that when I could see the illusion of the separation of consciousnesses into conscious, unconscious, subconscious, etc., my spiritual understanding just burst through a major bubble. It was awesome to be able to see it and realize that in all those "places" I had control and power over myself. When the Greys realized that I had realized that, that was also enlightening all the way around - to see how they can use that separation in humans to their benefit. Anyway, I will check out the link and get back with you on what I get out of it.  

3 Dec 2003 @ 14:33 by vibrani : The read
I read the article, Craig, and it sure makes some serious accusations and assumptions. I am not taking it lightly, but I'm also not going to let it frighten me, because I have had nothing to fear from it previously (and fear is an attractor). I do think there is a general consensus about what Whitley saying being true. I believe that being informed is our best defense - and we can't allow the cover-ups to continue.  

10 Dec 2003 @ 20:00 by vaxen : good insights:
"It is from numberless diverse acts of courage and belief that human history is shaped. Each time a person stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring, those ripples build a current which can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance." Robert Kennedy Former U.S. Attorney General  

10 Dec 2003 @ 20:45 by jmarc : i've been wondering if the whole UFO
abduction/sighting phenomenon is not possibly implanted memories used by the powers that be(namely government) to cover up such down to earthly things as military secrets and witness protection. Has anyone in the ufo research field considered this angle? andif so could you point me toward their writings?  

11 Dec 2003 @ 08:44 by craiglang : Steven Greer
Steven Greer has advanced that idea. His comments are on the www.CSETI.org website in the article "All that glitters is not gold". He suggests that the abduction phenomenon is really some kind of government orchestrated illusion/mind-control scheme. (Note: I looked for it there, just now, and I don't see a lot of his older writings there, so not sure if he has it available, or not.)

An interesting thought. Since I don't think we really know what the CE4 phenomenon is, any explanation deserves a certain chance for scrutiny.

Thanx,
-Craig  

11 Dec 2003 @ 08:47 by vibrani : Jmarc
you might want to see this, too [link]  

11 Dec 2003 @ 08:52 by craiglang : Another location for Greer's article
[link]  

11 Dec 2003 @ 17:03 by jmarc : thank you both
for your response to my question.i am reading the links now.  

15 Dec 2003 @ 13:34 by vibrani : Craig
After more thought about Whitley's "message," for myself I am sticking to my own ideas of contact/experience, and those haven't been all this frightful, negative, or painful stuff. The horror stories may be the reality of other people, but not my own. Whatever you believe is your reality, and will grow. This story will go to whomever is drawn to it (for fear or whatever reason). Thanks again for sharing what some people believe is going on - and it is, in their own world.  

15 Dec 2003 @ 14:00 by craiglang : Actually,
Nora, I think you are pretty accurate on that.
I note that in Whitley's latest newslog he seems to be backpedaling a bit on his last comments. Here is the link to the new one: "Shedding Light on the Dark Side, Part Two"

I think that he has a valid point that there is (or can be) a definite dark side. But my observations continue to be (and I think that yours are, as well) that the light and/or dark side are more a statement about the experiencer, then about the phenomenon. As you put it so well, we create our own reality.  

15 Dec 2003 @ 16:39 by vibrani : Yep
And as we continue to make more shifts in our collective consciousness/energy on this planet, more and more are we looking at our issues and where we want to be in terms of beliefs, how we want to live our lives. I choose to let go of that which does not serve me and focus on those things that do :-) I am pretty sure you know that by saying these things I'm not condemning anybody because we have our own choices and realities, not polarized like good or bad. They are choices. Like some people see the government as being all evil and lying to us, and I don't see that way (across the board), but one will try to impose their beliefs on another. That's not the point. The point is what does each person believe for themselves.

Whitley, in that second article, talks about personal empowerment. Yes, this is exactly right. And when you are in control of your experiences in all dimensions, then there is no fear at all. So, I think he's still working through his own fears of ETs. I don't fear ETs - I love almost all of them; they are my family.

I also have talked a lot about the confusion between an angel and an ET in appearance, or message. I believe that what people in ancient times were seeing were not all angels but ETs and they had enough trouble even considering that either could exist as it was, let alone be able to distinguish one from the other. Same goes for many folks today, just looking at some of the channeled info people fall for that is as good as being abducted by some of those ETs Whitley was writing about.  

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