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28 Jan 2004 @ 21:31, by Craig Lang

The new Whitley's Journal has a pretty spooky discussion of the breakup of the Gulf stream. The sense from reading it is that the change has begun. The snowball is rolling down the hill...

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28 Jan 2004 @ 22:31 by bushman : Melting snowball ,
turned to ice, that falls to earth? I read the book him and Art wrote, Global superstorm. Do you ever listen to Whitleys weekly shows? He has that spooky thing down, lol. I personaly think he's a bit dramatic about the whole thing, but on the other hand, there is deffinetly something up with the weather cycles, as well as if it gets too warm somewhere, it's going to get real cold somewhere else. Still, I don't know just how much of global warming is caused by man, when the sun could be the main contributor to it, and could litraly cook us anytime it likes. Seems to me though, that just looking at todays weather stuff, I see that everything is jumping around in extreem patterns. I think the only thing anyone can see is that stuff is melting fast in a few places, and things are getting frozen in another, this is something that we are seeing in our lifetimes. There arn't any pictures of europe during the little ice age and we don't really know the scope of that event globaly. Now my intuition says that the little ice age was part of a solar cycle combo with an earth cycle coinciding. Our magneticfield is low and droping, the sun has been pretty active for a long time past its peak.  

29 Jan 2004 @ 01:01 by vibrani : I just don't think
people get it. ALL living things have consciousness, and that includes the Earth. We work in tandem, we effect the cycles as does our solar system and all the live in it, each planet and star that has its own consciousness. The Earth has its natural cycles. Then there are the chemical effects (which truly are minor in our solar system when compared to the rest.) It's not such a mystery and not every little change can be attributed to something sinister.Yes, Bushman, I do think these are mostly natural cycles.  

29 Jan 2004 @ 07:06 by istvan : Well I do'nt think they are,
unless of course human activity is also "natural".
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29 Jan 2004 @ 07:19 by scotty : I think it's both !
And nature and man have to work hand in hand to heal each other !  

29 Jan 2004 @ 08:16 by istvan : Yes Scotty,
I see it that way too. Any system that has achived a certain balance prevail only if the equillibrium is supported by all components of the system.One or few components may fail without destroying ecosystems, but too many failures bound destroy requird equillibrium for required maintenance. Perhaps the solar activity alone would not be as devastating, if human activity, mentality and intelligence adapted to chamges we have no control of and focus on those that we have some control. Ask any SUV owner and they will tell you i am a nut.  

29 Jan 2004 @ 21:22 by vaxen : weather control...
is a part of the 21st century army command and control platform. weather control 'experiments' have been carried out for years. this involves the utilisation of weather control warfare stations such as haarp and others elsewhere in europe and australia. total control is the objective. think i'm kidding? check out darpa's research projects on weather control. this form of warfare has been in use since the last gulf war and, if truth be told, weather witching' is a very old science. same science just newer tech. same end as well...tremendous suffering for most and great benefit for a few all in the name of 'progress' and advancement of science.  

29 Jan 2004 @ 23:59 by craiglang : Aggregate Societal Folly
I have heard a number of people on NCN advocate some major conspiracy theories. However, I have a hard time believing in conspiracy when aggregate folly will suffice quite nicely... :-)

Somehow I doubt that the whole global warming fiasco, the upcoming climate changes (however they manifest), etc. are deliberate weather control - though I could certainly be wrong. I believe that they are simply human society, endeavor and technology getting out of control - "simply" a lack of foresight and a lack of balance. In short, I don't think it is due to planning or malice, just the overall foolishness of the aggregate human civilization in the mechanistic age.

My personal belief is that this age will come crashing down upon us pretty soon. Whether it is from the Gulf stream breaking up, from Yellowstone blowing up, or from something else entirely is really not that important. My sense is that we really don't need a natural disaster at all. We are going so far out of sustainable balance - such as the post a week or so ago about "Peak Oil" that our own economic dynamics can do it all by itself.

Whether the change comes as a soft "crash" - i.e. a "relatively smooth" transition to somthing more balanced, or whether western civ goes the way of the Easter Islanders - that is entirely up to us as an aggregate civilization. But so far, what I have seen in this lifetime doesn't look good.  

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