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One Seeker's Journey: More on Armageddon |
Category: Reports 10 comments 14 Mar 2005 @ 16:30 by sprtskr : no surpriseI've been reading alot lately about armegeddon being helped along by our government and so called religous leaders. Insanity! 14 Mar 2005 @ 17:25 by jstarrs : Does it make.... ...the 'the government did it' theorists less credible when you read that this plan was put into practice on 9/11? Or was it a great opportunity to put everything into practise? 14 Mar 2005 @ 18:07 by bushman : Central Bankers Industry can get along fine these days with robots, who needs humans to do the work , if all they will do is complain, and ask for cost of living increases in pay, we dont need living workers, why not make them think it's thier fault, and get rid of them? So we don't have to pay social security anymore, that would also solve the cost of medical for retired workers. Throw away humans, seems pretty logical, lol. 14 Mar 2005 @ 21:50 by craiglang : Not sure I would doubt that the "pursuit of Armageddon" is as much of a coherent plan as it is an overall policy. I am rather skeptical of the "government did it" theories behind 9/11. However, the idea that they had some degree of foreknowledge of the event, and subsequently exploited it to the fullest extent possible seems very credible to me. However such theories are nearly unproveable so the plausable deniability will always be there. The important consideration seems to be that the administration's public policy is having the effect - overtly or otherwise - of pushing us toward and environmental, economic and military apocalypse. And it is the stated desire of many of their supporters to see just such an apocalypse occur - "so that Jesus can return". 18 Mar 2005 @ 12:03 by jmarc : woops double post. read below. 18 Mar 2005 @ 12:04 by jmarc : i can beat that {LINK:http://www.google.com/search?q=Clinton+OR+Gore+OR++Kerry%29+%2B+Armageddon+&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official|LINKAGE} {Clinton OR gore OR Kerry + armageddon). I guess it all depends on POV, or who you want to put in the driver's seat of that evil little armaggeddon bus, eh? 208,000. On the other hand, brownies or cupcakes or candy plus armaggeddon gets 243,000 possibilities, so let's investigate sweets and deserts a little more eh? blah. 18 Mar 2005 @ 15:00 by craiglang : Joe I will have to think a bit about my reply to this. Under normal conditions, I think that your comment about POV is accurate. Unfortunately, these are not normal conditions. I will have more to say later, but for now let's just say that I think you are wrong on this one. 18 Mar 2005 @ 15:22 by craiglang : Missing the point More on the previous comment. Web searches are great - and I commend you for your creativity on your association of cookies and brownies with Armageddon. We all know that chocolate is the real cause of global warming and an excess of sugar will bring about catastrophic climate change... :-) Unfortunately, I think you miss (or deliberately avoid) the point. Other results were from conservative media, some of it decrying "liberal media" comments similar to Whitley Strieber's most recent journal entry. The two queries did not appear to prove any point except that you can find lots of associations, few if any of which were meaningful... Simply put, we are headed for the abyss. Our leaders, and those who have elected them, have made that choice deliberately - for other-than-rational reasons. Creative Google searches can muddy the waters, but they can not hide the issues. We are in aggregate deep-doodoo What the Google search in my post showed was that there are a significant number of instances showing how religious conservatives are actually SEEKING Amageddon. Sidestepping/obscuring/ignoring the point does nothing to lessen the danger. It only increases it. 21 Mar 2005 @ 12:01 by jmarc : so much for humour ok. What do you suggest as a solution, as i'm fairly certain neither of us is looking forward to armageddon?( i'm not,because of the weird locusts with the lion heads that are impossible to hide from. I assume that some equally terrible part of the armageddon thing would make you cringe.) Do we propose a religious litmus test for all of those serving in public office? Do we disenfranchise the voters who believe in armaggeddon? Do we re educate them in maybe a ,oh, i don't know, camp somewhere? Or do we try to bring them into the big tent and then show them a more reasonable way to believe and behave, by being religious AND having tolerance for the so called evil doers? MY favorite...and again i turn to humour...though, you may not be amused...Do we just convince them that armaggeddon has already happened, that they missed that train, and the best thing would be to turn the whitehouse into a big landing beacon for the GRAYS? Now i'm off to have a brownie for breakfast... How sinful of me, eh ;) 21 Mar 2005 @ 19:20 by craiglang : Good questions, Joe An interesting challenge. More 'hmmm, let me think..' material. Also, sorry if I missed the intended humor in your comment. Frequently emotional intent (including humor) - especially if it is on something sensitive - tends to get lost in in the keyboard-driven world of the internet. Also, the topic of mass-death tends to foster a bit of a dark mood - at least for me. Global devastation just ruins my day... :-) But I'm in a wee bit less ornery state of mind today. So humor is more on target with me today... :-) The first thing I need to understand is why so many people support Bush. I was just reading the lastest Zogby poll results which said that if the election were held again today, Bush likely would STILL win. Since I think you were for him in the last election, maybe you can enlighten me on this to some degree. The second thing - at least for me - is to understand why so few people seem to care about the environment. Is there a lack of understanding as to how serious the problem is? Is it a perception of hopelessness? - Is the problem just too big? Or is it something else that I just don't understand? And I think that understanding is the first step to the healing of polarity. The next thing is education. And if that doesn't work, then - well, I just don't know beyond that... Your note on a 'religious litmus test' is an interesting one. I've heard a number of 'born again' types suggest just that. For better or for worse, everyone has a voice. So the answer to your question is probably just what your lead-in suggests - subtle though it was... :-) - a reconciliation of some sort Note: This is quite an 'ahha' for your's truly, who considers himself to be a pacifist... :-) Or maybe you're right - maybe the rapture really has happened and we are just the ones who were left behind. ...oops, the guy in the cubicle next to me just vanished... :-) Other entries in Reports 14 Aug 2007 @ 17:32: Notes from NGH 2007 7 Jul 2006 @ 21:39: Hidden Contact -- The Fermi Paradox and The Deardorff Hypothesis 25 Feb 2005 @ 03:30: Disappointing but not surprising - the Peter Jennings UFO special 9 Feb 2005 @ 18:55: 'Healing the Hurts of Nations' by Palden Jenkins 18 Oct 2004 @ 17:58: Richard M. Dolan - UFOs and the National Security State 24 May 2004 @ 11:53: Sweeping Change: Notes from the Minnesota Democratic State Conv... 19 Feb 2004 @ 11:18: An interesting talk by Carville and Matilin
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