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Comment Feed for Organelle en http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v187/ Organelle http://www.newciv.org/news/Images/ncnicon2-s.gif http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v187/ 88 31 OrgSpace NewsLog 1.67 Sun, 18 May 2008 19:06:06 UT Sun, 18 May 2008 19:06:06 UT http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss 180 We, the Children of a Sentient Planet...: the planet http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000187-000010/#com93045 2008-05-18 19:06: comment by <a href="http://www.eskimo.com/mikel137/index.ht">Michael Lewis</a> on "We, the Children of a Sentient Planet...": I concur with "We the Children of a Sentient Planet...". I'm 66 and just escaped the flat earth concept. At first, concern was sporadic and limited to visible problems. My father's "Fight Pollution" pin was in a society in which few saw any relationship between pollution and capitalism, chronic war or aggressive industrial development. Concern for the planet sinks in. It seems rare that a person once convinced of the planet's fragility in the face of the geological-scale travesties inflicted on it ever becomes careless again about that. Sentient planet won't have trouble keeping adherents once it gains their concern. I studied formal logic. From that view it became clear that even instruments as old as the best Latin, and certainly as Magna Carta and U.S. Constitution are written in far more sophisticated and careful logic than is obvious. That is one reason why they have endured. It will be useful to have some of your more thoroughly studied logicians go through every sentence of your more important documents and be very careful they are exactly what you intend to say. Then they will be treasured for a long time. Another thing I found the hard way that it won't be sufficiently respected, and will be harshly criticized, if the documents speak for "we" more than once or a very few times. Even so, every statement can be declared soundly and with clearly logical determination. It will be necessary for newciv.org to criticize the harshly penetrating masculine aggressive Yang capital, military and industrial development of the world, and present the fact that it is already hard-nosing the destiny of the planet far too deeply with its tunnel borers, bombs, drills, spears, weapons, drills, aircraft pitons, and other machines which treat the fragile world with impunity. Yin is only a slight evolutionary retreat from the destruction at tooth and claw to the whiskers on one's nose; distinguish (discriminate or discern) between the desired action and the action to be avoided, and then yield to necessity. The Way of Yielding is well defined in Chinese culture. It is not religious. There are dozens of Ways in that venerable culture. And of course Yin and Yang are balanced and in constant tension. One result of the heavy aggressive imposition of Yang is that the birds are being poisoned again, and this time it is deforming their beaks. Before pollution, they had found just how hard the world is. But now the desecration of the chemistry and physics of the environment has fouled their instincts and they cannot know what is truly hurting their beaks, their noses. Again, just like Rachel Carson' described in Silent Spring. Action is defined almost universally and so worldwide by the action in light. Light's motion is the flow of action. Action is a synthetic measure. It is like a quart of whatever makes light the way it is. Once it was defined (the discovery by Max Planck), it became possible to understand many, many things in the world. The understanding is very dry. Light does not guarantee justice or mercy, nor does it impose cruelty or destruction. It merely is the continual and relentless path of action. Now the world is understood not only in sunlight and moonlight, but starlight and the light from distant galaxies. The world now adapts constantly to factors it only lurched toward since primordial times. For instance the Sun and Solar System orbit the Galaxy slowly -- once every 220 million years. Sixty five million years ago the big dinosaurs and it is said an asteroid killed them, but sixty five million years ago the Andromeda Galaxy was in exact conjunction with the Galactic Center. Galactic astrology is real. Just now the solar system is in Trine with the Galactic Center and Andromeda. Activism is inevitably to encounter the difference between natural competition in which organisms go one on one with each other for food and escape. That resulted in a statistical tranquility that was eventually more or less stable, but organisms personally killed other organisms and ate them. Hobbes was right: it is nasty, brutish and short in nature in fact. The human species emerged as monkeys combined smarts with hands and broke rocks, used fire, built good protective shelters in which not only the human beings themselves but their spirits as well could thrive, unifying society, culture and religion. Yet of course humans also learned such capital powers as now threaten to destroy so much of nature that perhaps every large animal will be eaten. It is vital somehow to learn where that balance emerges in which every capital activity takes place with intrinsic care for the planet. That never existed before. Whether that is determined in the near future and saves the earth, or not until there are no large animals or beautiful things or large fish or frogs or songbirds, and only after humans have lapsed into such brutes as sharks are, all stomach and no brains, and then dominated by the instincts that do care abou the world, is not clear. It is certainly possible to describe instincts that care for the planet though it's not clear how to make it the Law of Life for human beings. A Law that can not be avoided. It seems to be incomplete in vegan animals, for although they sometimes devastate crops they also tolerate and get along with other species of vegan animals easily. The necessary eventual instincts are not yet well defined, and even their premises are not fully comprehended. However, sentient beings all seem to respond to the correct scale of, for instance, the size and nature of the world as a planet, and the nature of and distance to the Moon. It takes, and they will advance rapidly then in evolutionary terms. Imagine a time of stable peaceful tranquil evolutionary existence in the future (after much havoc or not) in which the powers of construction which are known now (and are yet to be discovered) are tamed. This period of tranquility will exist perhaps for a hundred thousand, a million, ten million years. It's that kind of future which must be drawn upon to determine destiny, not the plans for a mere century from now. It's difficult but glimpses can be gleaned. Just how is everybody's concern, nobody's exclusive, and intensely personal in viewpoint. A few scientific ideas help. Elemental atomic spectra in terms of energy are extremely valuable in contemplating or envisioning the future. Tranquility in wilderness is immensely valuable. The decisions have to take that intense competition, distinguish between (A) primal one-one-one kill or be killed natural predation and (B) intelligent and civilized cultivation of the whole sentient planet in terms that respect its fragile existence, and respect human rights and the rights of life. How will wild feral nature that exists a million years hence be distinct from the intelligent conscious sentience that uses the powers of technology, literature, thought and constructions? Make that cut and you will be very far toward winning a reduction in the amount of time it takes to reach that vital tranquil love of the planet's wildlife. The distinction between wild instinct and civilized planethood which you find from the far distant future will be pungent enough that it is certain to raise opinions conflicting with the more stagnant and reactionary laws, yet be welcome by the best of new thought. There's more, but I can't determine now which is most important to send you. Best of luck. PS, My web page (you did ask for my url) describes a conjecture which, if true, has some implications for the power balance in the universe and hence, in the planet's destiny. Michael Lewis Cascadia (The present system dreams its obsolete constructions will disappear soon. Yet fossils show they will remain on the galactic time scale, as in "Concrete is Forever".) http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000187-000010/#com93045 Sun, 18 May 2008 19:06:06 UT Apple:Clock: Teachers http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000187-000014/#com83355 2007-06-07 21:38: comment by Kenny B. on "Apple:Clock": I just checked back on this site and noticed a couple of replies. Regarding Mr. Heaslet, I found some interesting and alarming information about him from a former teacher after I left. Crazy stuff. Mrs. Birdie was awesome though, my fave. http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000187-000014/#com83355 Thu, 7 Jun 2007 21:38:07 UT New Ways of Knowing: left to do what one http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000187-000033/#com81728 2007-04-23 11:36: comment by <a href="http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v433">rayon</a> on "New Ways of Knowing": wants in the general sense nowadays means for most people, to consume. Afraid I completely agree with Vax above, adding, that for any kind of knowledge to get anywhere a group of people must agree on some-thing, and then act some-how. Knowledge for a single person is quite a different ball game, and not a GAME, but serious life. There is fun, and smiles but not at the expense of anyone else, ever. One can never speak of the "fun" of being able to do whatever out of consideration of the others who cannot understand or DO those fun things (unless just speaking within the group); the ball is out of court on this one too, re the game analogy. http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000187-000033/#com81728 Mon, 23 Apr 2007 11:36:06 UT New Ways of Knowing: Maybe so... http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000187-000033/#com81515 2007-04-18 15:31: comment by <a href="http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v308">vaxen</a> on "New Ways of Knowing": But isn't this what comes of poorly understood 'words' and even worse... poorly understood applications of those self same ''poorly understood words?'' Such as the word "Knowlege," for instance, which actually - in its original root 'Gnosis,' garners unto itself more of the connotations that your 'access' bears for you. What's worse is that in constructs such as the compound word (two words!) know-ledge we are braintrained with the assumption that it means anything at all! Take a look at the systematic way in which, say, so called 'science' perverts the inherent meanings of the Greek language in order to obfuscate the fact that their so called knowledge is nothing but theory. Maybe we should get back to the gutsiness of the original English language (A 'Germanic' tongue) and get rid of all the 'loan' words which enable the sharks among us to have a royal feeding frenzy on what's left of our lives after they've gotten a hold of them... Free game? Surely you jest? Game? Hold on I see a rabbit... fair game, eh? ;) Hieros Gamos http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000187-000033/#com81515 Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:31:02 UT Apple:Clock: Mrs. Flintoff http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000187-000014/#com81431 2007-04-17 04:30: comment by <a href="http://www.employees.org/dpatters">Dave Patterson</a> on "Apple:Clock": Yes, I had Mrs. Minor for 3rd grade, Mrs. Bingham for 4th, Mrs. Hawthorne for 5th and Mrs. Flintoff for 6th. Sad to hear some have retired and moved away, but not surprised. ;-) I would love to know how they are today. I admired all of them as they were very influential in my life. http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000187-000014/#com81431 Tue, 17 Apr 2007 04:30:00 UT A Game that Saves Worlds: Yo http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000187-000031/#com79054 2007-02-20 22:32: comment by Shane Potter on "A Game that Saves Worlds": Yo http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000187-000031/#com79054 Tue, 20 Feb 2007 22:32:20 UT Apple:Clock: TCK http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000187-000014/#com76241 2006-11-17 21:36: comment by <a href="mailto:orchaeus@hotmail.com">d destefano</a> on "Apple:Clock": I had all the teachers you named above. Heaslet was bizarre. Feel free to write back and see if we know each other. http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000187-000014/#com76241 Fri, 17 Nov 2006 21:36:24 UT Apple:Clock: Mrs. Flintoff http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000187-000014/#com71883 2006-07-07 16:40: comment by Kenny B. on "Apple:Clock": I don't recall Mrs. Flintoff but I recently did a search to see who's left at TCK and found Nancy Kjeldsen at a different school. A asked about all of my former teachers; Ms. Hensley, Ms. Sweet, Ms. Minor, Ms. Birdie, Mr. Heaslet, Mr. Randall and Ms. Bingham and all were retired or moved away. http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000187-000014/#com71883 Fri, 7 Jul 2006 16:40:49 UT New Ways of Knowing: Knowing http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000187-000033/#com54400 2005-04-19 17:56: comment by <a href="http://www.vector8.blogspot.com">vector8</a> on "New Ways of Knowing": Want to say how much I enjoyed reading your thoughts. I believe knowing can only occur in the silence. Nuff said. Thanks again. EJ http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000187-000033/#com54400 Tue, 19 Apr 2005 17:56:27 UT Misdefining ‘Normal’: A Cause of Atrocity: Excellent Article, http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000187-000032/#com39698 2004-07-24 21:47: comment by <a href="http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v318">celestial</a> on "Misdefining Normal: A Cause of Atrocity": I hope and pray to see more of this quality of penmanship, from you and others. http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000187-000032/#com39698 Sat, 24 Jul 2004 21:47:30 UT Misdefining ‘Normal’: A Cause of Atrocity: The "Somehow" Is The Rub http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000187-000032/#com39642 2004-07-24 04:35: comment by <a href="http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v63">jazzolog</a> on "Misdefining Normal: A Cause of Atrocity": What an important article! I don't know whether or not you live in the States---and can't tell either at your positively brilliant site---but surely there is no more essential issue in this country than the powerful manipulation of what is normal in people's minds. We sat long and hard after dinner last evening with some new friends and pondered how the hell the current White House, for instance, does it. The solutions you offer seem to be the Way. Thank you for getting them out! http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000187-000032/#com39642 Sat, 24 Jul 2004 04:35:00 UT Apple:Clock: Mrs. Flintoff http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000187-000014/#com30794 2004-03-03 17:08: comment by <a href="http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v187">sevenlamb</a> on "Apple:Clock": I remember her. I was in a few of her classes. I think the class we saw Say Goodbye in was Mrs. Rouche's class. was there in the 70s. Your name is familiar :) http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000187-000014/#com30794 Wed, 3 Mar 2004 17:08:37 UT timeSigns : Sf today: Smush Bush apparel http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000187-000019/#com29849 2004-02-07 12:00: comment by <a href="http://www.cafeshops.com/smushbush04">Smush Bush</a> on "timeSigns : Sf today": I made t-shirts and other stuff with the slogan "Smush Bush." I may make stuff with some of these other slogans later. Let me know if there is any particular one you would like a t-shirt or other apparel or merchandise with. http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000187-000019/#com29849 Sat, 7 Feb 2004 12:00:46 UT Apple:Clock: Tully C. Knowles - Mrs. Flintoff http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000187-000014/#com29350 2004-01-24 21:09: comment by <a href="mailto:pat@cisco.com">Dave Patterson</a> on "Apple:Clock": Interesting documentation of events in your past. Did you attend Tully C. Knowles in late 60s early 70s. I did through the 60s. I am wondering if Mrs. Flintoff (my 6th grade teacher) is still living in the Stockton area, or if she moved away. Regards, Dave http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000187-000014/#com29350 Sat, 24 Jan 2004 21:09:00 UT A Child, an Angel, a Gift: Thank you, http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000187-000030/#com21737 2003-09-10 02:40: comment by swan on "A Child, an Angel, a Gift": for this writing, Sevenlamb, I find meaning in it for myself. Sometimes ones childlike innocence, openness and receptivity can be misunderstood as ignorance when in fact it is wisdom. http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000187-000030/#com21737 Wed, 10 Sep 2003 02:40:48 UT It is Light: is http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000187-000020/#com14236 2003-04-04 01:45: comment by <a href="http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v193">newdawn</a> on "It is Light": this for real? http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000187-000020/#com14236 Fri, 4 Apr 2003 01:45:35 UT Black, Red, White all Over : Race?: Hebrews... http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000187-000025/#com14158 2003-04-03 05:32: comment by <a href="http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v16">gyrfalcon</a> on "Black, Red, White all Over : Race?": My friend it is because the Jews say that they are the chosen race. If the children of God say it then we must all say it. If the foundation of Humanity is based on elitism and race then we shall all follow. That is just one aspect there are many others such as teaching children to hate and thus they perpetuate that hate as adults. http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000187-000025/#com14158 Thu, 3 Apr 2003 05:32:48 UT Black, Red, White all Over : Race?: Profound and magic http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000187-000025/#com12758 2003-03-09 22:49: comment by <a href="mailto:christine.hundleby@jcu.edu.au">Christine Hundleby</a> on "Black, Red, White all Over : Race?": I was amazed and profoundly touched by your article..this is the first time I have looked up this site and in the last 2 years I have personally experienced my own unique and individual awakening...I didn't realise a world like this existed...maybe I did, but have only now just started to remember...thankyou... chrissy http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000187-000025/#com12758 Sun, 9 Mar 2003 22:49:59 UT Black, Red, White all Over : Race?: rings... http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000187-000025/#com12612 2003-03-07 02:46: comment by meru on "Black, Red, White all Over : Race?": its a beautiful day in the neighborhood a beautiful day for a beauty, would you be mine? Could you be mine? Mr.Rogers stuff......Finally. http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000187-000025/#com12612 Fri, 7 Mar 2003 02:46:06 UT whiteRabbit: Yin and Yang... http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000187-000018/#com12461 2003-03-04 05:43: comment by <a href="http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v16">gyrfalcon</a> on "whiteRabbit": I once went to a place , a woodland park were I often visit, this was about 4years ago just before Xmas and were there are often normal wild rabbit of the grey/brown colour was a pair of rabbits one white the other black skippin around together, I wondered were they pets somebody had dumped? I never found out or saw them again but I did not return for several months. Any significance...I must comment that there was a magical fairy tale ambience created by these two incongruous creatures hoping around in the brown woods, it was like something out of a fairy tale, but it seemed that they had been dumped by some person. Next time I was in that spot ( about 10months latter ) I was talking to an old man and he said the rabbits had been hit by mixamatosis. http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000187-000018/#com12461 Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:43:44 UT