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5 Apr 2009 @ 18:26 by swanny @70.65.104.43 : Wow 6 Apr 2009 @ 08:03 by susannahbe : Hi ed Thanks very much for reading and commenting, it is much appreciated. Yes, it is awkward I know, where do you stop on the "scale of life" everything lives. There are those of course that only eat what is freely given, fruit, berries, nuts, things that nature gives to spread it seeds. Things you harvest without killing the plant etc. etc. It comes down to doing your best. It the UK there have been a lot of tv programmes, showing people raising and killing (or having them killed) their own animals, to bring to light what is really going on, rather than a sanitised 'buying from the supermarket'. In a way, if Animals are going to be killed for food the move toward keeping animals in a natural environment, well cared for etc. is a step forward from the factory farmed 'commodities'. If people have to kill an animal to survive and do it respectfully, that must be better than the sanitised prepackaged 'meat' that people buy and don't want to realise what is behind their dinner. When it comes down to it though, for me, what gives me the right to take the life of another earth inhabitant to satisfy my tastebuds, I understand that we have to eat and we must all do what our conscience allows. I just think that it is not being seen that we as a species use other beautiful innocent creatures as commodities, what gives us the right. Sorry, about the rant, I have added something in the main post to try and explain what started all this up in me again. Thanks for listening ed and I hope you are well - x 10 Apr 2009 @ 17:38 by celestial : Animal Cannibals: I believe any mammal eating another mammal is tantamount to cannibalism. As far as eating other life forms, I have not formed an opinion on that...yet. Powerful picture and an excellent article with a great host of quotes! 12 Apr 2009 @ 07:37 by susannahbe : Celestial It is a powerful picture isn't it. Thanks very much for reading and for your comment. 12 Apr 2009 @ 12:45 by bimbo : oh my goodness a subject I often try to ignore !! *ouch* Went fishing once years ago in warm waters .. if you've ever seen an octupus fight for it's life against a man armed with a knife !! Terrifying and Heart breaking ! Nuff said ! I believe I object to the way we treat animals and not exactly that we eat them. If we treated the animals with respect acknowledging their 'gift' of life........ I read this article a long time ago - [link] I'll probably stay veggie for the next couple of weeks - but even veggies are alive ! Thanks for posting this. 12 Apr 2009 @ 15:01 by susannahbe : Hi Bimbo I guess I don't see what gives humans the right to 'use' animals. As the quote says - The animals of the world exist for their own reasons. They were not made for humans any more than black people were made for white, or women created for men. ~Alice Walker I suppose in the days of Slavery some people were concerned that Slaves were kept well, while others questioned 'Slavery'. Thanks for commenting, 12 Apr 2009 @ 18:37 by bimbo : Of course you are quite right and I'm glad to be going back to fresh fruit and veggies !!((smile)) Here's what Osho has to say .. [link] 12 Apr 2009 @ 21:28 by susannahbe : Thanks for the Osho link :-) 12 Apr 2009 @ 22:42 by istvan : Dear Ma Binbo I too thank you for linking Osho's discourse. It would be well to post more of his discourses for He always spoke to and from deep intelligence, that many of us hopefully reach some day. So true: "You can eat meat and you can meditate. You can eat meat and you can love, it has nothing to do with love either. But you will be showing one thing about yourself: that you are very crude, that you are very primitive, uncultured, uncivilized, that you don't have any sense how life should be." There was a U-Tube video of OSHO posted not long ago and the only conclusion people rieched, according to comments, that "he newer blinks". That shows the mentality of NCN. Also contemplating on the practice of the Jewish "KOSHER". At least the animals receive a priests blessing. Might be a little more advanced killing. The slaughter at Gaza recently also received many Rabbi's blessings. Perhaps evolution at work. Love&veggies. AnandIsvan 12 Apr 2009 @ 22:51 by susannahbe : Istvan thanks for the comment Istvan, I too like Osho's words. You comment about 'the mentality on NCN' as though it is something out side of us/you. Everyone who visits here and takes part in whatever form is contributing - we are ALL part of 'the mentality of NCN'.
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