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Xanadu 2012: Climate Change Insurance? |
Category: Articles 12 comments 13 Nov 2009 @ 08:42 by bushman : HmmSeems to me that if there was more CO2, then plants would be taking over by now, jungles would be covering cities and there would be food for all. I think some people worry way to much about about exhaling, lol, but really increased CO2 would save a starving world if it was true that mankind is the problem. I know this for a fact that if you add more CO2 to your grow room the plants thrive far better than if you just let them inhale the local CO2 that is available in any given location. CO2 is not a problem on this planet, people with agendas are the problem. And when the Sun takes its 1300 year nap people with agendas will tell us that its because our hearts grew cold, and should pay some sort of tax for that. Some people just give man too much credit for nothing, yet it must be mans fault the Earth does strange things now and then. I mean once a man decides he is the cause of all the Earths usual moods, he is no longer a man, he sees himself as a plauge a destroyer of all life, that is the sadest part of this whole thing, he feels guilty for what nature does all by itself, because he has forgoten he is part of the nature on this planet. 13 Nov 2009 @ 12:01 by susannahbe : Nature - Good comment Bushman :-) Yeah, I agree that man has forgotten he is part of the nature on the planet. Perhaps because of the christian church and its book popularising the 'man has dominion over the earth' thing, among other things. It leads people to believe the earth and the things on it are something separate from man, rather than something that we sprang from, and are too. We are just another species on this planet. And the Sun has its cycles, and the Earth changes too. It is all evolving - change is the only constant. 13 Nov 2009 @ 12:59 by swanny @70.65.9.110 : Transisition Measure Well you would think more CO2 would benefit plants but apparently not or not globally according to the studies done. Not sure why specifically, the Earth seems to be a complex though somewhat delicate and fragile thing. I though am well aware that I am a child of nature and don't consider whether I am the cause or not of climate change. The reality or truth though is that I do believe and know it is occurring and will thus have to adjust according as we all will. Whether human efforts to reduce CO2 can assist retain some state of normalcy then that would perhaps be a wise or good thing. In fairness and unfortunately, climate change insurance doesn't address the real cause or causes of climate change but merely mitigates and redistributes the benefits, damages and ie symptoms of it around more equally, a ploy to common in much of human problem solving, where problems are solved by creating new problems and or solutions. To really address the causes more directly would require actual reductions and restrictions of and in CO2 Gas Production, Activities and Lifestyles ie: a return to a less industrial society or a society of cleaner and greener sources of Energy. Insurance thus might be used and an interm or transition stop gap measure but is not a real solution 13 Nov 2009 @ 13:10 by mortimer : Were the sun don't shine The ruling class suppressed technology that could resolve the issue. The systemic solution is stop dealing with the crooks dot period, they can stick their climate treaty were the sun don't shine 13 Nov 2009 @ 13:14 by swanny @70.65.9.110 : Ecocommunity Well Im trying to spread the concept of developing little Ecocommunities of a New Global Ecocivilization. Ive got the principles down in my book "The Ecocivilization" So far its not in publication yet but soon perhaps. 13 Nov 2009 @ 13:26 by mortimer : Studies done? Studies done by who, the ruling class. Those college fly boys who got their certificate of assimilation, they call it a college degree. Your education system, your military, your government, all they way down to your local police have been usurped by the ruling class. You do not reach any high level of rank unless you are willing to protect the system. That's a fact Jack. 13 Nov 2009 @ 13:40 by swanny @70.65.9.110 : So? So the alternative is? An underground perhaps but the internet is not safe so it is best to start in your local community or Ecocommunity and read between the lines or rather look around at the real world and weather, "I get my news from the weather report." the Laws of Nature thus upsurpt the Laws of Humans and a community that goes to the higher authority of Nature and God is on God and Natures side and thus the side of the Truth and the true Laws. 13 Nov 2009 @ 13:40 by mortimer : Remember The current system does not protect the people, the current system protects the system from the people. 13 Nov 2009 @ 13:45 by swanny @70.65.9.110 : The machine Yes I know, The machine or system same dif. It is hard to defend against a machine so one perhaps allows it to consume itself. 13 Nov 2009 @ 14:32 by mortimer : Exactly The point I'm making is that people should not trust new policy. Especially anything dealing with global policy. Grab the crooks by the head an check them for teeth. Check them real good. There is no honor among crooks. Why are we still on the honor system with these guys. 13 Nov 2009 @ 19:37 by bushman : Hmm Well, there are plenty of studies on plant and increased CO2. Pros: [link] Cons: [link] I mean does anyone have any idea as to how much CO2 is released in a forest fire/controled burn? I'm all for cutting emmisions, but when nature itself is dumping CO2 into the system at rates so much higher than what man can possably release in a year, I see mans cotribution as miniscuel at best, I would say in the second link, where they mention that CO2 levels are 35% higher than they were 200 years ago, they are full of it, lol. We would be gagging on every breath by now. I also have to say, that on Mars CO2 levels are extreme, and I have to ask the question, just how did Mars end up with so much CO2, with out mankind? Carbon is made by burning organic compounds or rotting organic materials over time, as well as carbon based life that breaths oxygen, so I have to also ask the question, if a living thing inhales this mixture of gases on our planet, when that living thing exhales, does it exhale the same gases minus the gas that keeps it alive? Does anyone even know where the Earths CO2 levels over its 4.5 billion years is at its middle ground? I think not, and that all figures are skewed by assumtions with no base at all. Water vapor. This is by far the most important greenhouse gas. It evaporates mostly from the ocean, and it causes earth's surface to be about 30°C warmer (out of the 33°C of warming caused by all greenhouse gases combined). See Ocean and Climate for a discussion of how much water warms the atmosphere. [link] 13 Nov 2009 @ 20:14 by swanny @70.65.9.110 : Studies Well I thought one way to find out was to conduct my own study so in dec 2007 I did and the results I found were that though global CO2 is increasing and should be good for crops, overall global cereal grain crop yields were going down. While some sites showed slight improvements most were decreasing in production. This was only for the major cereal crops and I did not get into the garden crops. I may have posted the results of this at new civ around Jan of 2008 Other entries in Articles 1 Feb 2012 @ 18:53: sustainability 2012 31 Jan 2012 @ 16:56: Biome Community Harmony 2012 27 Jan 2012 @ 13:14: the $ problem 25 Jan 2012 @ 17:31: The Ocean of Pathos 2012 25 Jan 2012 @ 12:48: perspective 21 Jan 2012 @ 15:21: Humanity Prayer 2012 14 Jan 2012 @ 16:46: about love 2012 14 Jan 2012 @ 02:52: Modern Atlas 2012 13 Jan 2012 @ 23:21: law marridge and blessing 13 Jan 2012 @ 01:31: Internet Addiction 2012
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