Their numbers would be renewed by co-option, so as to preserve the secrecy of techniques handed down from ancient times. Examples of the Nine Unknown Men making contact with the outer world are rare.
There was, however, the extraordinary case of one of the most mysterious figures in Western history: the Pope Sylvester II, known also by the name of Gerbert d'Aurillac.
Born in the Auvergne in 920 (d. 1003) Gerbert was a Benedictine monk, professor at the University of Rheims, Archbishop of Ravenna and Pope by the grace of Ortho III.
He is supposed to have spent some time in Spain, after which a mysterious voyage brought him to India where he is reputed to have aquired various kinds of skills which stupified his entourage. For example, he possessed in his palace a bronze head which answered YES or NO to questions put to it on politics or the general position of Christianity.
According to Sylvester II this was a perfectly simple operation corresponding to a two-figure calculation, and was performed by an automaton similar to our modern binary machines.
This "magic" head was destroyed when Sylvester died, and all the information it imparted carefully concealed. No doubt an authorized research worker would come across some interesting things in the Vatican Library.
In the cybernetics journal, Computers and Automation of October 1954, the following comment appeared:
"We must suppose that he (Sylvester) was possessed of extraordinary knowledge and the most remarkable mechanical skill and inventiveness.
"This speaking head must have been fashioned 'under a certain conjunction of stars occuring at the exact moment when all the planets were starting on their courses.'
"Neither the past, nor the present nor the future entered into it, since this invention apparently far exceeded in its scope its rival, the perverse 'mirror on the wall' of the Queen, the precursor of our modern electronic brain.
"Naturally it was widely asserted that Gerbert was only able to produce such a machine head because he was in league with the Devil and had sworn eternal allegiance to him."
Had other Europeans any contact with the society of the Nine Unknown Men? It was not until the nineteenth century that this mystery was referred to again in the works of the French writer Jacolliot.
Jacolliot was French Consul at Calcutta under the Second Empire. He wrote some quite important prophetic works, comparable, if not superior to those of Jules Verne.
He also left several books dealing with the great secrets of the human race. A great many occult writers, prophets and miracle-workers have borrowed from his writings which, completely neglected in France, are well known in Russia.
Jacolliot states catagorically that the Soceity of Nine did actually exist. And, to make it all the more intriguing, he refers in the this connection to certain techniques, unimaginable in 1860, such as, for example, the liberation of energy, sterilization by radiation and psychological warfare.
Yersin, one of Pasteur and de Roux's closest collaborators, was entrusted, it seems, with certain biological secrets when he visited Madras in 1890, and following the instructions he received was able to prepare a serum against cholera and the plague.
The story of the Nine Unknown Men was popularized for the first time in 1927 in a book by Talbot Mundy who for twenty-five years was a member of the British police force in India. His book is half-fiction, half scientific inquiry.
The Nine apparently employed a synthetic language, and each of them was in possession of a book that was constantly being rewritten and containing a detailed account of some science.
The first of these books is said to have been devoted to the technique of propaganda and psychological warfare.
"The most dangerous of all sciences," wrote Mundy, "is that of moulding mass opinion, because it would enable anyone to govern the whole world."
It must be remembered that Korzybski's "General Semantics" did not appear until 1937 and that it was not until the West had the experience of the last World War that the techniques of psychology of language, i.e., propaganda, could be formulated.
The first American college of semantics only came into being in 1950. In France almost the only book that at all well known is Serge Tchocotine's "Le Viol des Foules" which has had a considerable influence in intellectual polical circles, although it deals only superficially with the subject.
The second book was on physiology. It explained, among other things, how it is possible to kill a man by touching him, death being caused by a reversal of the nerve-impulse.
It is said that Judo is a result of "leakages" from this book.
The third volume was a study on microbiology, and dealt especially with protective colloids. The fourth was concerned with the transmutation of metals. There is a legend that in times of drought temples and religious relief organizations received large quanities of fine gold from a secret source.
The fifth volume contains a study of all means of communication, terrestial and extra-terrestial.
The sixth expounds the secrets of gravitation. The seventh contains the most exhaustive cosmogony known to humanity. The eighth deals with light.
The ninth volume, on sociology, gives the rules for the evolution of societies, and means of foretelling their decline. Connected with the Nine Unknown Men is the mystery of the waters of the Ganges.
Multitudes of pilgrims, suffering from the most appalling diseases, bathe in them without harming the healthy ones. The sacred waters purify everything.
Their strange properties have been attributed to the fact that they contain bacteriophages. But why should these not be formed in the Bramaputra, the Amazon or the Seine?
Jacolliot in his book advances the theory of sterilization by radiation, a hundred years before such a thing was thought to be possible. These radiations, he says, probably come from a secret temple hollowed out in the bed of the Ganges.
Avoiding all forms of religious, social or political agitations, deliberately and perfectly concealed from the public eye, the Nine were the incarnation of the ideal man of science, serenely aloof, but conscious of his moral obligations.
Having the power to mold the destiny of the human race, but refraining from its exercise, this secret society is the finest tribute imaginable to freedom of the most exalted kind.
Looking down from the watch-tower of their hidden glory, these Nine Unknown Men watched civilizations being born, destroyed and re-born again, tolerant rather than indifferent, and ready to come to the rescue -- but always observing that rule of silence that is the mark of human greatness.
Myth or reality?
A magnificent myth, in any case, and one that has issued from the depths of time -- a harbinger, maybe, of the future? Talbot Mundy wrote a book called "The Nine Unknown" based on the legend, here is a review of it:
"Perhaps the perfect balance between pulp high adventure and mystical novel was achieved in The Nine Unknown. (1923/1924), written and published right before the Tibetan opus Om.
"The novel is based on a persistant legend brought back to the west from the East, about the existence of nine unknown perfected men who watched over India, and guarded its secrets.
"In Mundy's novel there turns out to be nine unknown men who work for the good of mankind, and a dark shadowy nine who worship Kali and work to destroy the work of the others.
"JimGrim and his crew must try to sort out which is which if they are to survive. The novel was a favorite of Pauwels and Bergier, whose discussion of "the nine" was a prototype "open conspiracy" for planetary change in their influencial Morning of the Magicians.
"The use of Mundy's ideas in Pauwels and Bergier's book was probably was one of the prime reasons for the Mundy revival in the 1960s.
"The Nine Unknown remains my favorite of the JimGrim novels, and ranks at the very top of my picks of Mundy's works. It is truely unfortunate that the novel has remained out of print since the late 1960s."
Edited by RA for clarity.
24 Apr 2007 @ 06:49 by : this makes me think
very deeply of a recent experience
you are very resourceful
24 Apr 2007 @ 14:08 by : Yeah...
Know what ya mean. I am... a good re-searcher which is why certain Governments rely upon my services. ;)
Thanks for the comment and I hope you enjoyed the read. There is more, much more...
Well, back to the Council of 13 and our nefarious works. All for the good of the world, don'tcha know.
24 Apr 2007 @ 22:11 by : The Nine and More
I too haved loved Talbot Mundy's books, thanks for the research, vax. My favorite of his novels are the Tros of Samosrace books with each chapter headed by a paragraph of a quote from one of the Greek mystery religions. His books in paperback can still be found with diligent search in old used bookstores.
When I went to India I had the Nine in mind.
25 Apr 2007 @ 01:04 by : I wonder if
a few of the used online book stores would have it.. like half.com.. or amazon..
by the way.. that magic head.. reminds me of the magic 8 ball... lol
you guys have traveled so much...I have been no where ..lol.. well.. Baja California once.. when I was 18
25 Apr 2007 @ 01:06 by : Certainly...
my friend. And thankyou for all you've done, as well. 'SO' much more to do that sometimes I just feel so... overwhelmed by it all.
Trying to forgive them for murdering the Admiral. Maybe someday I'll succeed. Till then... there's a Revolt In The Stars and the fifth invader force seems to have...
25 Apr 2007 @ 19:53 by : The Nine
Cool, very interesting story of the Nine Unknown Men.
25 Apr 2007 @ 20:48 by : Ming san:
The "Mechanic," purely a coincidence, is a code term for one of the most notorious of the ULTRA Doctors. ;)
Good to see you, bro... (Static 5th level.) ;)
A little Sunday morning PDH perhaps? ;)
"...One of the main areas to be investigated by the CIA was mind control. Many other branches of the government took part in the study of this area. Under the protection of ‘national security’, these branches embarked on a wide range of macabre programs, including assassination squads, brain washing programs, civilian spying, drug trafficking, illegal arms sales, fomenting civil wars, and toppling foreign governments.  P. 10...
"...MKULTRA involved (*Note: Involves!) the use of drugs, sensory deprivation, religious cults, microwaves, psychological conditioning, psychosurgery, brain implants, and other areas of research. It consisted of 149 sub-projects plus another 33 closely related sub-projects, all funded through the black budget. However, from the 1950s to 1962 most of the original records, documents, and research papers were deliberately destroyed. P. 13...
PS: The Hagalaz Rune is the 9th Rune of the FUTHARC system. Theta is the 9th letter of the Ancient Phoenicio-Greek Alpha Beta
Theta refers to the 'out of the body state.' Beta, Alpha, 'Theta,' Delta frequencies are all controlled via the Theta Operational State, which was attained at SRI utilising NOTS China Lake PsyWar programs developed there.
Theta frequencies are between 4 and 7 cycles per second. Delta between 1 and 3 whilst beta (normal everyday operating frequencies are between 13+ upwards in to the Gamma and Omega Psi frequencies.
Our mentor was quite aware of all of this having been given the go ahead to educate educate educate...
So now we find ourselves terribly involved in this 'new game.' World War IV, or... "The War For The Control Of Mens Minds."
Glad we are here but it's a tough one. Remember the part in "RITS," after the 'item' was opened, and there was Mish, head bandaged, in the uniform of a Loyal Officer, reciting what was occurring and had occurred...
Eta Beta Theta Pie? Ai Yai Yai!
'Core' issue: [link]
Gosh, I've already lost so many friends; for the good of the world - of course! Revenimus!
13 Nov 2007 @ 18:18 by z @18.104.22.168 : eyes dont see what the mind dosent know
eyes dont see what the mind dosent know ,9 is a complete number , the world is a culmination of thoughts which eventually emerge as physical this is critical to understand . you try to search physical elements of a thought ,which is childish .taming of ones thoughts leads to understand what is understood and find what is found .the nine have been long before west , advancement is not necessarily kind ,there is nothing in this world or beyond that more advanced than an ignorant man just like a spark he holds secret of fire within .control is for protection, protection of man from himself , the worst enemy ever . there is one universality no duality ,no power forces to yield to negation and various manifestations of it . a mans rue lies in his dream , in forgeting that even if it culminates to reality it still is a dream . the key to human existance is very clear and known to all ..purna mada purnaidam purnat purna mudachyate
13 Nov 2007 @ 20:03 by : Ham...
Ham Bijam Gaganam Dhyayet Nirakaram Bahu Prabham Jinanam Trikala Vishayam Aeshvariya Anima Dikam. ;)
AUM Tat Sat...
25 Oct 2008 @ 00:45 by Anurag Basu @22.214.171.124 : Nine Unknown Men
As far as the secret society is concerned, they were genius in lots of things like microbiology, alchemy, physiology and nuclear technology. Their expertise is said to be unmatched with even today´s science and engineering. Ancient India did not have any gold reserves but India was rich in gold and the reason given by many people is alchemy.
Have a look:
26 Sep 2009 @ 06:48 by @126.96.36.199 : The King of all Secret Societies
The eminent international economist Mark Faber recently, on a cable news network, kept harping on and on about how the only great economy and banking system is with India and the Central Bank of India. What he probably knows (and most people don't) is that the OLDEST and MOST POWERFUL original secret society is India's the Nine Unknown Men. They are the head of the Illuminati, and are the spiritual controllers of all secret societies such as the Skull and Bones, the Freemasons, Bilderbergs, Rothschilds, Book and Snake, etc. They are the true enlightened ones and many believe their power stemmed from Alien encounters who shared with them scientific knowledge many millennia ago. How can any human created secret society compete with that?