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 Magdalena 7 comments
26 Jun 2006 @ 14:33, by nraye. Religion
PreRaphaelite Dreams

The paintings of this movement have always remained singularly unattractive to my appreciation until learning the following.

One of the main inspirations behind the PreRaphaelite Movement was a newly acquired awareness amongst artists and intellectuals on the periphery of the Catholic Emancipation Act (of Parliament). This itself spurred by the famous Oxford Group dissenters from Protentantism in the wake of a new freedom wave declared on Catholicism in England.

The artist considered to be the most sublime of all the Renaissance artists is Raphael, who unfortunately lived a relatively short life. It is now known that many of Raphaels paintings uses as subject matter, Mary Magdalene, often denoted by the colour orange, green and or red of the chemise, or dress on the bodice part of attire and drapery. Attending one such exhibition of paintings at the National Gallery a couple of years ago was a most heart lifting experience. The extent of beauty in each drawing, etching and painting is simply breathtaking. Raphael must have nursed a fascination with Mary Magdalene, and intellectual circles in Italy must have all hummed and buzzed with the newly found realisations of that time of her friendship with Our Lord, and subsequent escape with family to Provence, and a generation later to England at Glastonbury, where the family line continued to show itself in the Arthurian legends as Sir Galahad renowned for his prayer ability, spiritual experiences, and other worldliness. In the recent debate on the Da Vinci code, authors most knowledgeable have not been quoted, one wonders why? Personally, I do believe completely in Mary Magdalene as close friend of Jesus, and mother of children: Can see why a following sprouted in Provence with her arrival, and can see why this would have created a confusion with the Virgin Mary.

The church strongly denies this, to use the same link as used in Jazzolog, Its a Girl fame, I refer to it again here, being the chief inspiration for this log.

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The second link below is about the womem members of the PreRaphaelite movement. It makies extremely interesting reading, and carries notions both of a real struggle and wish these ladies pursued to a new intellectual line. This line seems permanently to remain a secret. The strength of the movement, to judge from the depth and strength of their art, is not matched at all with the few histories made on this group, namely that it was simply another art movement, albeit the first so called Avant Garde one.


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As so often in the history of PreRaphaelitism, it is William Michael Rossetti who provides the ultimate verdict. 'All the artists whom I best knew and valued deplored her death as a real loss to art', he wrote in 1906; 'they had looked upon her as the leading hope for painting in the hands of a woman'.(44) Yet had William Michael consulted his sister, another ambivalent PreRaphaelite, he might have seen that his apparently handsome conclusion was still inadequate. What Joanna Mary Boyce's life and work attest to most vividly is the struggle for social mobility and intellectual independence that must come before art, if art is to shape culture in the way that PreRaphaelitism is commonly allowed to have done. This struggle dogged the female artist in the orbit of PreRaphaelitism's challenge; and, when male PreRaphaelites are praised as iconoclasts, trend-setters or free-thinkers, it should be remembered by what comparative privilege they attained such positions. . . . . . "


This article carries a palpable mystery woven between the words although accidental of course.

My first introduction to things Mary Magdalen in High Art (apart from that through the Church at Easter each year), and, most importantly after learning about the Black Maria legends in Provence, through the work of Le Corbusier and his links with the Cathars in the Pyrennes, was while visiting an important historical house from Elizabethan times, in which Queen Elizabeth I lived as a child, in the sixteenth century. In this house were two things connecting the previously collected research above. One was a family tree **chart showing the holy blood line (from Jesus) descending down through time to Queen Elizabeth and the other was a collection of medium sized portraits of Mary Magdalene perhaps 6 or 8 in all. Each one of these portraits, showed a different aspect of prayer or adoration or modesty or self containment in the full Renaissance style at a time shortly AFTER Raphael himself. ((** Family Tree charts showing descendency from the Holy family were very much the vogue for at least 1,000 years, mattered in the survival stakes, and are all related to the Magdelen myth)).

The point which struck me was the fascination that this artist obviously held for Mary M. Catholics are only ever shown pictures of Mary mother of Jesus, so it was with total wonder not only to see so many of Mary Magdalen but also that they were so very beautiful too, and almost completely unknown. (More mystery).

I also believe that Leonardo Da Vinci who was simply a more prolific genius in the art of painting than Raphael, had the capability and talent to show a 13 year old St John in the Last Supper painting without giving rise to doubts that he had actually painted a fully grown woman, if that is what he had intended. Un doubtedly the person next to Jesus in this painting looks like a women, demurely looking down, (ie away from the artists gaze, or photographer) because the most important person and people are Jesus and his disciples. If it were a young boy, he would not need to look submissively but be casting his eyes about like any of the other men disciples. As he was to be the most divine of authors for Jesus, he more rightly could have been seen looking in admiration directly at Jesus without crossing boundaries of acceptable behaviour of the times.

I believe this subject matter represents the depths of the PreRaphaelite movement and the suggestions in their haunting paintings. The sudden interest that must have been accorded Women in this time as is shown continously in the painting of this known style to my interpretation. However, a real contradiction of sorts does come out of both the works and histories written in the links supplied, especially as the Rossetti faction is described as being the Spiritual one, which would be the opposite of Mary Magdalen, who is very much the material counterpart to the truly spiritual Virgin Mary.

More than anything else in the civilisation in our Western world, this myth surrounding Magdalen actually underpins the fundamentals of Christianity, by showing what it is NOT based on, ie normal intelligent woman, but rather the regular myths of Virgin Mary and Jesus.


This does not detract in any way from the myth of Magdalen. As with the opposites of Materialism and Spirit say, the Magdalen myth is as important in the whole Christian tale as that of Virgin Mary, in that it is its very opposite in manifestation and this is the very point of BOTH. This is the continous and infinite Mystery which, I am sure, endures and enthralls, and will continue to do as long as Christianity survives.

One last entry on the artists themselves, is an extract from Wikipedia:

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 A Woman Shall Lead Us24 comments
21 Jun 2006 @ 11:07, by jazzolog. Religion
Friend, hope for the truth while you are alive.
Jump into experience while you are alive!
What you call "salvation" belongs to the time before death.
If you don't break your ropes while you are alive, do you think ghosts will do it after?

---Kabir

Actually there is no real teaching at all for you to chew on. But not believing in yourself, you pick up your baggage and go around to other people's houses looking for Zen, looking for Tao, looking for mysteries, looking for awakenings, looking for Buddhas, looking for masters, looking for teachers. You think this a searching for the ultimate and you make this into your religion. But this is like running blindly. The more you run, the farther away you are. You just tire yourself, to what benefit in the end?

---Foyan

A human being is a part of the whole called by us "the universe," a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings, as something separate from the rest---a kind of optical delusion of consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and affection of a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of understanding and compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its being.

---Albert Einstein

Bishop Katharine Jefferts Schori is the first woman to lead the Episcopal Church.
Photo by Michael Houghton for The New York Times

There are many peculiar terms in the Episcopal Church. "Episcopal" is one of them. The word in Latin means "bishop," which hardly differentiates this church from anything known as Anglican throughout the rest of the world. Its members want their own identity in the United States, so we use Episcopal instead of Anglican. Apparently that's only the first of many annoyances we cause.

The physical organization of the church resembles the Catholic, from which it broke so King Henry could keep trying out wives until he found one to suit him. (Not much spiritual inspiration there.) Other Protestant denominations have bishops and such, who are leaders elected in some way or other. In the Episcopal Church there are 2 houses, like Congress: the House of Bishops I suppose is like the Senate, smaller and with more clout; the House of Deputies is similar to the House of Representatives.

The "president" of the whole Anglican Community is known as the Archbishop, and as anybody can become a priest and a bishop anybody could get elected Archbishop too. Well...until now, any MAN could be Archbishop. And to be more specific, any clearly practicing heterosexual man. A priest needn't be married but it's better, if he's going to have some kind of sexual partner living with him, that it be a woman. You know, help with church auxiliaries and picnics, choir practice, Sunday school...that kind of "womanly" thing. I suppose our Catholic friends laugh up their sleeves at how complicated all this has become for us. We have nuns too.  More >

 Moral Ascension13 comments
17 Jun 2006 @ 13:47, by swanny. Religion
THOUGHTS ON THE ASCENSION
June 10, 2006
Canada

What I find so mysterious about Christ is His reputed ascension into a cloud on The Mount of Olives 40 days after Easter. I am puzzled how anyone could ascend in body into a cloud? Seems a bit Star Treks' to me.... Yet reports suggest it happened yet the only real proof of it is the lack of proof.
Well speculation doth run rampant on such things... yet something "must" have happened otherwise how could Christianity have endured these 2000 years hence....
So what remains? What remains is the message and messages of Christ:

"Pay It Forward
Do unto others as Christ did to others
Heal the sick
Give to the poor
Feed the hungry
Encourage the hopeless
Forgive the sinners
Intercede for others
Love thine neighbor and enemy
Make a joyful noise unto the Lord
Be a Light
Bless the little children
The Beatitudes
Be Humble
Be True
The Lords Prayer
Know Joy more abundantly!
Educate or teach the unlearned
Lead by Example"
Jesus 0 BC

To think one man one Rabbi "knew" and said all that and more.... Where the heck did he learn it. On Earth? From who? Something divine must have been.
Yet maybe there was this moral ascension that was more important than any literal physical ascension, yet then what was the causality of it? What causes a man or society to ascend morally in a kind of quantum leap? Is that important?  More >

 TRINIDAD0 comments
29 May 2006 @ 00:49, by tenerife. Religion
OIL PAINTING TRINITY  More >

 Mohammed cartoons in Egypt56 comments
9 Feb 2006 @ 21:41, by ming. Religion
Sandmonkey lives in Cairo. He thought those Mohammed cartoons looked kind of familiar. He looked through the old newspapers in his house, and, lo and behold, he found that they had all been published in a major Egyptial newspaper way back in October last year, during Ramadan. And, no, there were zero protests against that. The editor wasn't fired, no angry crowds on the street, and nobody put the Egyptian embassy on fire anywhere.

Great find! Nobody had said anything about that before. That ought to demonstrate a few things. But what exactly? These people don't get upset before they're told to be? It isn't really the cartoons that upset them, but what they're told that they mean? It certainly shows that the story is partially bogus.  More >

 Wikipedia on Mohammed cartoons40 comments
7 Feb 2006 @ 17:54, by ming. Religion
For those coming here for the Mohammed cartoon controversy, my two posts where the action is are here and here. More than 8000 people came by yesterday, and, as somebody commented, it looks a bit like WWIII, but there's also some useful dialogue going on in-between the abusive name-calling.

Wikipedia has an excellent page with lots of information, history and references on the Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy. Clearly being updated daily. The best place to get an overview.  More >

 A Statement From Khalid2 comments
1 Feb 2006 @ 21:16, by vaxen. Religion
A brilliant statement by Khalid Mish'al

We will not sell our people or principles for foreign aid
Palestinians voted for Hamas because of our refusal to give up their rights. But we are ready to make a just peace
Khalid Mish'al
Tuesday January 31, 2006
The Guardian  More >

 Denmark vs Mohammed872 comments
30 Jan 2006 @ 23:59, by ming. Religion
I didn't think I would get to see that. Muslims burning Danish flags in the street. OK, maybe because Denmark joined Bush's ill-conceived invasion of Iraq. But that isn't it at all. We're talking about cartoons. Yahoo News
BEIRUT, Lebanon - The controversy over Danish caricatures of Prophet Muhammad escalated Monday as gunmen seized an EU office in Gaza and Muslims appealed for a trade boycott of Danish products. Denmark called for its citizens in the Middle East to exercise vigilance.

Denmark-based Arla Foods, which has been the target of a widespread boycott in the Middle East, reported that two of its employees in Saudi Arabia were beaten by angry customers. Aid groups, meanwhile, pulled workers out of Gaza, citing the threat of hostilities.

The 12 drawings — published in a Danish paper in September and in a Norwegian paper this month — included an image of the prophet wearing a turban shaped as a bomb with a burning fuse. Islamic tradition bars any depiction of the prophet, even respectful ones, out of concern that such images could lead to idolatry.

Danish government officials have expressed regret over the furor but have refused to get involved, citing freedom of expression. The Jyllands-Posten newspaper has refused to apologize for publishing the drawings and has said it did not mean to insult Islam.
OK, maybe it wasn't the greatest idea in the world to ask some cartoonists for pictures of the Prophet Mohammed. But, hey, Denmark is a free country where nobody will get away with taking themselves too seriously. So, if you want to make a funny, irreverant or insulting picture of the Pope, Queen Elizabeth, Jesus, Elvis, George Bush ... or Mohammed, then... so what. Might be funny, might not be.

But a lot of muslims apparently feel that their god gets gravely insulted by Danish cartoons of his prophet with a funny hat on. Which, however much I'd like to respect a diversity of beliefs, I can't really find a way of looking at it that doesn't make me question the sanity of whole lot of people.

I think that what these folks maybe don't understand is that Denmark is a country where the government doesn't control the press. Maybe that's a novel idea. Yes, if the prime minister had made fun of Mohammed, that would have been very dumb, and he should probably apologize, for the sake of good diplomacy. But there's no way he can give an official apology for a cartoon in a newspaper, and he shouldn't. So, now Saudi Arabia has recalled their ambassador, Libia is closing its embassy, Egypt is refusing a loan they otherwise were eager to get, and Danish products are being boycotted.  More >

 The Final Freedoms0 comments
3 Jan 2006 @ 18:13, by robertal. Religion
Examine any part of culture ancient or modern, from anywhere in the world and you will almost certainly find a self proclaimed priesthood existing hand in hand with ruling elites and displaying all the pretensions of their political masters; expecting deference, power and ‘tribute’ for the ‘mystery’ they claim to understand on ‘our’ behalf.

That great wheel of history, the final of all judges, has already consigned numerous examples of religion to its own dusbin of oblivion, and may be turning once again to deliver its verdict on the monotheistic claims which exist today, and even human nature itself!  More >

 My Views on the Free Zone7 comments
5 Dec 2005 @ 10:17, by vaxen. Religion
Hello:

Looking over your application, it is apparent that you are a
Rons Org person. While I am all for anyone getting up the bridge
however they can, I do not agree that CBR was any sort of source
other than squirrel.

And as you list RO as references, and levels, I do not want
you posting to a standard tech group some of your altered tech
viewpoints.

Therefore, your membership has been disapproved.

All the best:
tom  More >



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