|New Civilization News: Holocracy|
Category: Social System Design
32 comments25 Jan 2002 @ 13:04 by tdeane : Holocracy
Dearest Ming, Wonderful goal and certainly reflective of the ideals toward which we seek to move, but wouldn't the next logical, workable step toward Holocracy be a true Democracy vs. what we now have?
25 Jan 2002 @ 14:36 by ming : Democracy
The problem is that we don't quite seem to know what a true democracy is. I think that what we all want it to be is that we, the people, have direct influence over how things are. That our voice is heard and that it makes a difference. But the only system we have of carrying it out is to vote and for the majority to choose some people, who then decides how things will be. It really has nothing to do with what we think we want. But, yes, we should work on making our democracy more direct and more democratic.
25 Jan 2002 @ 15:05 by maxtobin : Seeking democracy
A democracy is 'of the poeple for the people by the people', I don't believe we have ever seen one on this planet (I am open to input here). However, with modern technology we could have one (televoting technologies do exist). Constant referendum could be a way, no longer would we have politicians as we know them, rather we would see an evolution of great orators whose talent would be to express the distilled needs of the moment to common human language, then a simple unified consensous would emerge (localy or globaly as appropriate). Slowly we would see a feeling/knowing of empowerment 'filter down' to all, and responsible humankind would/may evolve on the planet. This is simplistic in essence but deep in consequence I believe. Just a thought, but we do need a new paradigim to move beyond our present impass. Thank you for the opportunity to move the adventure to a new level.
25 Jan 2002 @ 19:02 by mmmark : Universal Government
There seems to be a mindset oriented to finding a Universal form of Government as high priority to what we need to pioneer. I would like to suggest again that we develop techniques of consensus and self-government here on NCN that meet our needs, to be tested before we engage on any debate over how it may or may not work for the whole nation or the world. This will require saying what we think works and then a testing of that theory, followed by corrections in a cycle of exchange that proves itself worthy of global consideration
25 Jan 2002 @ 19:48 by ming : Self-government
I agree. We need to figure out how it works with us people here before we can pretend to go out and have the solution to the world's problems. If it doesn't work here amongst a small group of positive people who are trying hard to make it work, chances are slim that it would work for millions of people who could care less about it. So, yes, let's work out what self-government or self-organization or direct democracy or holocracy means for us here.
4 Feb 2002 @ 14:09 by maxtobin : Televoting
Hi all, this is for ming but any one else who is interested could check it out also. I haven't had a look for a while so it may not be so up-to-date. but www.democracy.org.nz/votes is a link of interest I feel. I choose this method of delivery rather than send it to your cluttered inbox.
Blessed be Max
17 May 2009 @ 15:08 by dragan matic @18.104.22.168 : holocracy
well, on my side (somewhere in the old europe), I've also had some thoughts about the holocracy (I've also searched internet sites who dealed with this subject, and came up to this one).
unfortunately, most of my thoughts are written in french, but a few of them are in english (meant espacially for you). please have a look on them here:
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