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New Civilization News: Voting in North Carolina |
Category: Politics 17 comments
4 Nov 2008 @ 23:19 by martha : Vote and Vax 4 Nov 2008 @ 23:26 by medicinedreamer : Here, too you get freebies from Starbucks and others but I never go to Starbucks, not even today. There were no long lines for us - it was very orderly, ran smoothly even though each booth was filled. I got my McCain/Palin souvenir buttons - good thing to have for history. 5 Nov 2008 @ 12:20 by martha : Undecided After turning on the news this morning I discovered that North Carolina is one of three states where the presidential election is undecided. It won't make a difference as to the outcome for Obama. North Carolina hasn't voted for a democratic president for many years so it is an indication that things are changing in part of the south. The good news is that Elizabeth Dole and her godless ads lost to Kay Hagan. And also North Carolina has a woman governor in Bev Perdue. In Forsyth county where I live Obama got 55% of the vote and McCain got 44%. In the state Obama leads by 12,000 votes and it is still too close to call. 5 Nov 2008 @ 17:18 by jazzolog : Sorry I Didn't Get A Chance To Comment yesterday, Martha. It was great you posted...and I think a lot of people really care about how particularly North Carolina and Georgia go. There used to be something called the Solid South, and it may be time for that category to vanish. I was busy all day, starting at 6:30 when my voting place opened. It's in a very small crossroads town, but the line was out the door. Managed to get to work ontime anyway, and after that volunteered for whatever I could do. I got sent to a small town in McCain territory, and went door-to-door until the polls closed. It was very interesting, and not as all as dangerous as I thought it might be. (One sometimes gets the wrong impression of how dangerous the opposition is at a site like NCN.) I met a guy in his mid-40s, with a wife and family, who never had voted in his life. He was very nervous and wanted to know everything about what to do. Amazing! Apparently there are hundreds of thousands of such people in this country, voting for the first time ever. As a social studies teacher for 30 years, among other things, I'm wondering what the heck they've been teaching in those classes the last 10 or 15 years. (As if I didn't know---with No Child Left Behind in charge.) In my junior high school in the '50s, local candidates debated each other in assemblies. We go to see how political dialogue can go in a civilized fashion---without both sides pulling out shotguns. The greatest thing about last night was how gracious McCain and Obama were in their speeches, one conceding and the other accepting victory. All this without a couple armies clashing. The miracle of democracy! 5 Nov 2008 @ 18:40 by martha : Thanks Jazz It did sound like you were quite busy yesterday and congrats on Obama winning Ohio. I missed the two speeches last night. I am sure your passionate support helped Obama win. My eye lids just couldn't stay up so I heard the speeches this morning on the news. Yes it is changing in some of the south. Bev Perdue, our new governor, is the first woman in North Carolina to win the office! As i walked around Winston-Salem today there were lots of smiles on the faces of the minorities I passed. It angers me about the fear the media sends out implying that if you are in different parties, one must be afraid of each other. And thank the lord I don't have to watch anymore godless ads. 6 Nov 2008 @ 13:00 by martha : Still no winner According to unofficial results, President-elect Barack Obama won North Carolina by close to 14,000 votes, but that tally doesn't include an unknown number of outstanding provisional ballots. Provisional ballots are cast when questions are raised about a voter's eligibility. Yesterday i read there were about 40,000 provisional ballots to count. They hope to have them processed by next Tuesday. The state had a 69 percent turnout rate. 6 Nov 2008 @ 20:06 by martha : Obama wins North Carolina RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) — President-elect Obama won North Carolina on Thursday, a symbolic triumph that underscored his political strength as he turned nine states that President Bush won in 2004 to Democratic blue. The Associated Press declared Obama the winner after canvassing counties in North Carolina to determine the number of outstanding provisional ballots. That survey found that there are not enough remaining ballots for Republican John McCain to close a 13,693-vote deficit. North Carolina's 15 electoral votes brings Obama's total to 364 — nearly 100 more than necessary to win the White House — to McCain's 162. Missouri is the only state that remains too close to call, with McCain leading by several thousand votes. Obama's win in North Carolina was the first for a Democratic presidential candidate since Jimmy Carter won the state in 1976. 10 Nov 2008 @ 05:54 by Ernest D. Tamminga @71.105.162.119 : Judgment Quetion: The Christian scripture says "judge not lest ye be judged" Do I not judge if I vote for one person or law etc. as opposed to another? How does one rationalize this appaent discrepancy? 10 Nov 2008 @ 12:18 by martha : Good question Ernest Yes you do judge when you vote. Your logical and intuitive mind is making decisions about the people running for office. If all else is equal except you view one person harshly and vote for the other that would be judgmental. I think the scripture might mean don't be judgmental when you judge another. Don't allow your own prejudices to interfere with logical and intuitive thinking. Judgemental thinking could be reflected in race, religion, country, or even eye color, just to name a few examples. And when you catch yourself being judgmental (we all do it), laugh and feel happy you observed the judgmental thinking and can correct your mis-take. 12 Nov 2008 @ 21:53 by erndor : Judgment vs judgmental Thankee Martha---well said Does "God"judge? If He did, he would self-destruct because he would have to have a "negative" thought to complete the judgment. Rather like asking "does "God" forgive? If one says yes, then one must say that God Judges in order to have something to forgive. And if this is so, he wold have to have had a negative thought and would thus disappear. Ah So! Mindfulness, Equanimity, Impermanence. No judging, no being judgmental. Just BE in the Oneness. Have a wonder-full NOW in peace and love. ern 13 Nov 2008 @ 20:27 by martha : OM Ernest As you know judging and judgmental thoughts are done by the ego. I doubt if God or source as I like to call consciousness does any judging or forgiveness. Those concepts are of the ego. Religion and governments use these and many other ideas to control people. Unfortunately people are not connected to just Be-ing as we have discussed. In Be-ing such concepts are not necessary since one always has goodwill towards all life. To take it a step further there would be no need for religion, countries or all the other artificial ideas humanity has invented if we were all connected to source consciously. New-style thinking is a step in the right direction towards being able to drop many of these rules. Keep Be-ing Ernest and I’ll try to stay with you on our path of mindfulness, love and peace. Life is change and needs to be embraced. Through change comes freedom to BE! hahaha 14 Nov 2008 @ 12:46 by martha : Godless lawsuit RALEIGH - U.S. Sen.-elect Kay Hagan withdrew her defamation and libel lawsuit yesterday against incumbent Sen. Elizabeth Dole for a campaign commercial that Hagan alleged questioned her Christianity. Hagan spokeswoman Colleen Flanagan said that the papers were filed in Wake County court, putting an end to the legal fight over a controversial TV ad in the final week of the campaign ultimately won by Hagan. The ad ran only for a few days but became a hot issue. Dole brought up her campaign rival's attendance at a fundraiser held by an adviser to the Godless Americans Political Action Committee, an atheist advocacy group. Flanagan said that Hagan can better spend her time by working to help families hurt by the bad economy than by pursuing a lawsuit that "would just continue the focus on a very personal and negative attack against Kay." "It's clear that the people of North Carolina have rejected personal attacks aimed at dividing people of this state instead of bringing them together to solve the problems at hand," Flanagan said. Hogan Gidley, a spokesman for the Dole campaign, declined to comment on ending the suit. Dole's 30-second advertisement showed clips of some members of the Godless Americans committee talking about some of their goals, such as taking "under God" out of the Pledge of Allegiance and removing "In God We Trust" from U.S. currency. It went on to question why Hagan went to the fundraiser. The ad ended with a picture of Hagan while another woman declares in the background, "There is no God!" Hagan, a Greensboro Democrat and state senator, responded quickly to the commercial with the lawsuit and her own commercial accusing Dole of breaking the Bible's ninth commandment by bearing false witness. Hagen, a Presbyterian church elder who teaches Sunday school, also held a news conference with her family and her minister. Dole called the lawsuit frivolous and said that the commercial was factual and designed to question Hagan's agenda and associations -- not her faith. Dole's campaign also used the September fundraiser in Boston that Hagan attended at the home of Woody Kaplan in automated phone calls in the campaign's last weekend. The fundraiser was not billed as a Godless Americans activity, and other hosts included an ambassador and U.S. Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts, the 2004 Democratic presidential nominee. Dole's campaign sent a press release on the subject about a month before the fundraiser took place. Hagan received nearly 53 percent of the vote in her upset of Dole, a Republican, who served one term. ([link]) 14 Nov 2008 @ 17:41 by martha : Under God Moving to the bible belt of the United States has opened my eyes as to how the religious righteous continues to try and manipulate people in the "Name of God". Under God by David Waters "Priest Calls Vote for Obama a Mortal Sin A Catholic priest in South Carolina has decided that the democratic act of casting a vote is, in some cases, a mortal sin. Therefore, he has decided that parishioners who voted for Barack Obama are not entitled to the grace of Jesus Christ through communion until they've done penance. "Voting for a pro-abortion politician when a plausible pro-life alternative exists constitutes material cooperation with intrinsic evil, and those Catholics who do so place themselves outside of the full communion of Christ's Church and under the judgment of divine law," Rev. Jay Scott Newman wrote in a letter to parishioners at St. Mary's Catholic Church in Greenville. "Persons in this condition should not receive Holy Communion until and unless they are reconciled to God in the Sacrament of Penance, lest they eat and drink their own condemnation." Perhaps I'm not the best person to question any clergy person's right to deny the body and blood and grace of Christ to any Christian. I'm a Methodist and we'll serve communion to just about anyone with a pulse. But really? Newman is denying communion not to those who have conducted or received an abortion, and not to those who enact laws that allow for abortion, but to those who cast a vote for a candidate who supports abortion rights. In effect, he's saying that thinking is now mortal sin. He's saying that having an opinion is a mortal sin. He's saying that freedom of speech and thought is a mortal sin. I wonder what would happen if parishioners could elect their own priests." ([link]) Just another example of OLD STYLE THINKING. 26 Nov 2008 @ 12:50 by martha : One Vote I did a follow up this morning on how close the Presidential race was here in NC. A total of 4,310,789 votes were cast. Obama/Biden won by 14,177 votes. That isn’t very many votes. Now if my ego jumped in, I’d say my vote was one of the 14,177. Hahaha So does one vote count? Can one woman or man make a difference? 26 Nov 2008 @ 16:10 by medicinedreamer : Yeah, Martha It was close in many states. One person does matter - see what's going on in the Franken election - they're still counting ballots and it's extremely close. 5 Jan 2009 @ 22:19 by martha : Al Franken- one vote does count The Minnesota Canvassing Board ruled Franken, the comedian and former radio host, won the razor-close election recount by 225 votes out of nearly 3 million cast Nov. 4. 5 Jan 2009 @ 22:22 by medicinedreamer : Yes! hahaha imagine that - he won. 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Voting in North Carolina