en http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v510/ An NCN News Log http://www.newciv.org/pic/ncnicon2-s.gif http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v510/ 88 31 webmaster@newciv.org OrgSpace NewsLog 1.67 Thu, 15 May 2008 01:52:54 UT Thu, 15 May 2008 01:52:54 UT http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss 180 http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000510-000013/#com92955 2008-05-15 01:52: comment by <a href="mailto:glisten@anandavala.info">Deepwater</a> on "You want to be healthy? Become the Missionary!":<br>I am heartened that such profound thinking is being done and that so many are engaging with it. The translation into english does make it difficult to extract the depth and complexity from the text, but there is enough for me to see that good work is being done. <br>I thank you for sharing this work with the world, and hope clearer translations become available.<br>I also believe that as we evolve we create a more sane society, I also agree that current prevelent thinking has distorted our true nature and that we need to be clear of mind, realized as souls and dedicated to service of the greater good for all. http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000510-000013/#com92955 Thu, 15 May 2008 01:52:54 UT http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000510-000013/#com73125 2006-08-14 17:32: comment by <a href="http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v257">b</a> on "You want to be healthy? Become the Missionary!":<br>that it is a simple return to the call of a past mission? Yes, the new civilizaion that starts in many created communities but all of them are different. http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000510-000013/#com73125 Mon, 14 Aug 2006 17:32:51 UT http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000510-000011/#com73122 2006-08-14 17:04: comment by <a href="http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v397">freo7</a> on "The Messiah - everyone, and at everyone - own Golgotha!":<br>"self-accomplishment (self-knowledge, self-development and self-realization) each person as carrier of Unique Supreme Mission" ((absolutely agree with this statement from my own 63 year experience this life-time!)) and "The unique sense of the New Civilization consists that in considering the person not as means and as the purpose of the existence." http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000510-000011/#com73122 Mon, 14 Aug 2006 17:04:23 UT http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000510-000011/#com73105 2006-08-13 20:07: comment by gabacho on "The Messiah - everyone, and at everyone - own Golgotha!":<br>Sorry, but I can't stand to plow through this mangled text to find out what you might have to say. You need to colaborate with a native English speaker to rescue your incomprensible text from the trash bin. The best choice would be someone you can talk with face to face. That way you can (hopefully) explain what you're trying to say, so s/he can edit your text to bring this out. Even your title is vague and uninformative. Sorry, but no sale.<br> http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000510-000011/#com73105 Sun, 13 Aug 2006 20:07:28 UT http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000510-000005/#com72780 2006-08-01 14:08: comment by <a href="http://nc.armos.ru">Armos</a> on "Difficulties of practical realization of the civilization projects. Our actions":<br>My English is a challenge not so much for me, how many for those who reads me or listens. But I hope quickly enough to cope with this situation and to come more clear for other members NCN. Certainly, I am glad to interaction with you and your group, Jazzolog, but I should understand, what I should make. I yet have no wide experience in electronic communications, therefore not always I understand, how I should operate. I hope for your help and the help from other skilled members NCN http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000510-000005/#com72780 Tue, 1 Aug 2006 14:08:09 UT http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000510-000005/#com72778 2006-08-01 13:42: comment by <a href="http://nc.armos.ru">Armos</a> on "Difficulties of practical realization of the civilization projects. Our actions":<br>I am confident, that at creation of that financial system about which I speak, we the next year completely shall provide financing the model community project, NevadaGold. And not only it, and hundreds same projects worldwide. This project can quite cause interest and in Russia. It is necessary to understand only how to connect standard commercial investments with civilization effect, for example, for Russians. Whether it is possible to create there some kind of club with hotel and the educational center that investors could come, work, get acquainted with other participants NCN there? And in general, it would be quite good to develop full social model of this settlement. It could be useful and in Russia where also it is a lot of deposits of gold, other minerals http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000510-000005/#com72778 Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:42:06 UT http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000510-000005/#com72773 2006-08-01 10:19: comment by <a href="http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v63">jazzolog</a> on "Difficulties of practical realization of the civilization projects. Our actions":<br>I prefer my civilization built upon community...if possible. Of course community involves the time and work it takes to get to know people and for them to see you distinctly. Those of us who stay around NCN for any length of time begin talking with each other at other Logs and in ChatRooms and Groups. I know that English is a challenge but I think people are getting to know you and I hope you will stay and flourish here. Bring in a friend or 2 too. http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000510-000005/#com72773 Tue, 1 Aug 2006 10:19:12 UT http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000510-000005/#com72746 2006-07-31 18:46: comment by <a href="http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v257">b</a> on "Difficulties of practical realization of the civilization projects. Our actions":<br>You provide hope and perhaps material that this membership of NCN will come alive to creating a new and better civilization. I want to start a model community of the new civilization that is a test for the bigger project. Or maybe the creating of many smaller model communities all over the world. THe reason that I want to start this model community in the the state of Nevada in USA is becuase of its proximity to the gold mining area that I know so well. I am willing to exploit my knowledge of the gold industry and that location. Gold is still a standard of exchange for both barter and monies. It takes as you well realize funds to build out housing, energy sources, production facilities, agriculture, energy sources and yes the Sun to help us have the free energy that we all can use. We need good management to husband our resources. http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000510-000005/#com72746 Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:46:14 UT http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000510-000005/#com72738 2006-07-31 09:33: comment by <a href="http://nc.armos.ru">Armos</a> on "Difficulties of practical realization of the civilization projects. Our actions":<br>Thanks, dear Blueboy, for very interesting reference. I for a long time observe for LETS, I think, that they in practice form the base of a new civilization. I am familiar with their financial approaches, including the concept " Time Dollar ", I congratulate them on serious successes, but is confident, that all should be created not from the particular to the general, and from the general to the particular. And to create not on an old ideological basis, and on essentially new, for example, that I suggest. As today already it is necessary to talk not simply about LETS and their interaction, and about GETS (Global Exchange Trading System though would be more exact to speak about Global Exchange Tangible System, in terms of physical economy). And money should represent itself not simply exchange certificates, and products of the property of the consumer on means of production, author's development, and also self-accomplishment of each person. On this theme I just also am going to state my offers in following article http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000510-000005/#com72738 Mon, 31 Jul 2006 09:33:25 UT http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000510-000005/#com72737 2006-07-31 08:47: comment by <a href="http://nc.armos.ru">Armos</a> on "Difficulties of practical realization of the civilization projects. Our actions":<br>It is certainly right bushman when speaks about necessity of support of the project of Baron. It is absolutely right and atunmenra when speaks that one project will not help civilization undertaking. I hope, that I shall not be mistaken, if I shall tell, as the separate project, and the general system should be created simultaneously. As the question is support of thousand and thousand such projects worldwide. Only then it is possible to speak not simply about the New Civilization, and really to create it. And I shall tell about it in following article in more detail<br><br>By the way, very much it would be desirable to find out, where it is possible to get acquainted with feministic network concepts? http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000510-000005/#com72737 Mon, 31 Jul 2006 08:47:58 UT http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000510-000005/#com72733 2006-07-30 20:31: comment by <a href="http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v288">jobrown</a> on "Difficulties of practical realization of the civilization projects. Our actions":<br>http://www.transaction.net/money/lets/ as well as other systems:<br>http://www.transaction.net/money/timedollars/index.html<br>Thanks for your article/Thoughts! http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000510-000005/#com72733 Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:31:49 UT http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000510-000005/#com72714 2006-07-30 06:38: comment by atunmenra on "Difficulties of practical realization of the civilization projects. Our actions":<br>Part of the challenge is that there is more than one thing that needs to be improved on the planet. So trying to lump it all together into one company is impossible. We need to build bridges of support, and more than just moral support or the support of ideas. We need to use our freedom of choice to empower and financially support companies that are doing this consciousness raising work. I would suggest some study of feminist networking ideas, that are different from the hierarchial business patterns of the past.<br><br>Dream on,<br>Sunwolf<br>Frater Dragons Mane http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000510-000005/#com72714 Sun, 30 Jul 2006 06:38:41 UT http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000510-000005/#com72692 2006-07-29 16:11: comment by <a href="http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v13">bushman</a> on "Difficulties of practical realization of the civilization projects. Our actions":<br>Deffinetly a huge undertakeing :} I'd stay away from managment companies, mostly because it would become overhead, a bill, moneies going out on a regular basis, an instant money leak. Personaly, I would hope that intrested members take the time to educate themselves as to how to manage our community. Again, as I mentioned on the projects main log, most of NCN dosn't make enough personal income to take the risk. I'd invest money in a hot second, if I had the income. All I can do right now is promote the project, and get people I meet to become intrested in what NCN is trying to do. As well, the project is fechered on the main splash page, so we already got Mings backing, as far as use of the NCN site. I don't feel the extra buracracy is going to expidite the project, we just need to come up with the initial investment, and then let Baron deal with that, and he can get people as we need them for implimentation of activities. Right now our focus should be on getting 35 like minded people to invest in the project. We might also think about affiliating with already established communities that have the same global ideas, and there is quite a few so called Eco villages around the globe. We shouldn't forget that NCN, in itself, is a network, a way to connect our global intrests. I also personaly think once the land is procured, youll see more intrest/particpation in the project, as a whole. :} http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000510-000005/#com72692 Sat, 29 Jul 2006 16:11:35 UT http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000510-000002/#com72347 2006-07-22 16:42: comment by <a href="http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v13">bushman</a> on "The property of the consumer on means of production - Core of New Civilization":<br>A penny, a measure?<br>And I heard a voice in the midst of the four living beings say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.<br>Revolations 6.6 http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000510-000002/#com72347 Sat, 22 Jul 2006 16:42:44 UT http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000510-000001/#com72280 2006-07-20 10:22: comment by <a href="http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v63">jazzolog</a> on "NCN-mission - creation of New Civilization! And why also is not present?":<br>to welcome armos and recommend both this Log entry and his homepage http://nc-engl.armos.ru/ . I look forward to knowing him better. http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000510-000001/#com72280 Thu, 20 Jul 2006 10:22:42 UT http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000510-000001/#com72275 2006-07-20 06:36: comment by <a href="http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v397">freo7</a> on "NCN-mission - creation of New Civilization! And why also is not present?":<br>Clearing the genetic codes inherent in the mid-east crisis:<br>http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v397 http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000510-000001/#com72275 Thu, 20 Jul 2006 06:36:18 UT http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000510-000001/#com72259 2006-07-19 19:27: comment by <a href="http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v257">b</a> on "NCN-mission - creation of New Civilization! And why also is not present?":<br>to NCN. It is good to hear from Russia. We need many visions of a new civilization. http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000510-000001/#com72259 Wed, 19 Jul 2006 19:27:00 UT