en http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v582/ An NCN News Log http://www.newciv.org/pic/ncnicon2-s.gif http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v582/ 88 31 webmaster@newciv.org OrgSpace NewsLog 1.67 Sun, 6 Apr 2008 15:37:01 UT Sun, 6 Apr 2008 15:37:01 UT http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss 180 http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000582-000006/#com92088 2008-04-06 15:37: comment by <a href="http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v582">galacton</a> on "Boriska The Russian Martian":<br>Vaxen. haven't heard about Relfes, but now opening Their site. Christians+Scientologists! - seems to be an amusing compound. I don't know what is Gryada/Greada, Gryada is a transliteration of 'range' as in "mounting range". Greys would be "serye".<br><br>Yeah, I read a bit about the USA colonization of Mars (not to say about the Moon :-))back in 60ies. Will have a look at that story...<br><br>--------<br>Hoping to be more active after adaptation to a new job............:-( http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000582-000006/#com92088 Sun, 6 Apr 2008 15:37:01 UT http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000582-000006/#com92031 2008-04-03 06:26: comment by <a href="http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v308">vaxen</a> on "Boriska The Russian Martian":<br>it is a pretty amazing tale. Heard it before...over at Stephanie Relfe's site...<br><br>http://www.themarsrecords.com/ and http://www.metatech.org/ There you can download the Mars Force pdf's...a story that may be of interest to you which has to do with clandestine missions to Mars and secret warrior projects. A space force battling offworld civilizations...purportedly non-fiction.<br><br>She uses Hubbards method of auditing and the books always remained difficult for me as it begins like an auditing session so I always 'shut down' when I start to read it but you might be able to enjoy it. Thanks for getting the message out galacton...Boriska isn't the only one. Gryada same as Greada? Meaning...the greys?<br><br>Oh, concerning the Relfes? They are evangelical Christians so, in my opinion, a lot of their 'stuff' has an agenda behind it. Buyer beware... ;)<br><br>The tale about Boriska is at the first site 'The Mars Records.' Scorll down to the bottom and you'll see it. Click on it and read if you've an interest.<br><br>See ya, bro... http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000582-000006/#com92031 Thu, 3 Apr 2008 06:26:30 UT http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000582-000005/#com91823 2008-03-23 18:25: comment by <a href="http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v582">galacton</a> on "Rumourmill Urgently Activated":<br>is of course a lot of various clips on YouTube about Guys, pResidents and Co., but this pretty long movie - ZeitGeist, see their site, is also informative on FED, 9-11 cover-up, etc. "Desperate measures" may include even nuclear blasts in some cities, there is a ranged list of possible cities-"targets" compiled. You can try Captain May in Google...But "their" hands shoud be whipped, I believe... http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000582-000005/#com91823 Sun, 23 Mar 2008 18:25:37 UT http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000582-000005/#com91809 2008-03-23 03:14: comment by a-d on "Rumourmill Urgently Activated":<br>say... Their Pudding is known to enough many people by now and the group getting a whiff of the truth grows daily... -and THAT makes them shit in their pants -and we know this because they are starting to take DESPERATE MEASURES! Her's the proof of THAT! : )<br>[ http://www.chycho.com/?q=fed_war ] http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000582-000005/#com91809 Sun, 23 Mar 2008 03:14:10 UT http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000582-000005/#com91795 2008-03-22 04:51: comment by <a href="http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v308">vaxen</a> on "Rumourmill Urgently Activated":<br>they know we know and that their fiat goernment is time'limited.' No amount of blather will stop us from doing what we have to do. Their lies and deceptions are coming back to roost so they pass puerile laws like the handgun ban. Ha!<br><br>They are all nothing but agents of a foreign corporation...IMF and World Bank. Seven families took over the U.S. Treasury becasue the treasury was broke, bankrupt, and could not fulfill their proimse to pay the bond holders, of which the seven families were the paramount, when the bonds came due...so, all assets of the U.S. Treasury were seized in 1912 and in 1913 the Federal Reserve was established to further glut the US of A. Thus todays mess has its' origins in the long ago swindling, still going on, by the District of COlumbia municipal government which called itself, and wasn't challenged, the United States of America...there are two. The real and the fiat. The fiat is now in control, or so they think...but that is not the truth. SInce the people do not want the truth we shan't give it to them. ;) Thanks for the above, galacton. http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000582-000005/#com91795 Sat, 22 Mar 2008 04:51:25 UT http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000582-000005/#com91757 2008-03-20 16:16: comment by <a href="http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v582">galacton</a> on "Rumourmill Urgently Activated":<br>are welcome :-) http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000582-000005/#com91757 Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:16:02 UT http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000582-000005/#com91721 2008-03-19 04:19: comment by a-d on "Rumourmill Urgently Activated":<br>for your Info! Seems urgent enough to me! http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000582-000005/#com91721 Wed, 19 Mar 2008 04:19:16 UT http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000582-000002/#com91538 2008-03-10 18:50: comment by <a href="http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v582">galacton</a> on "Recent UFO Sighting in Ukraine ":<br>chemtrails for fighting heat, if I understand it properly? Maybe, though ecological thinking is also pretty much down, as we can see (it is surely down in Ukraine). On the other part, these stories about one world govt purposefully diminishing the planet's population are also wide-spread. But it's strictly up to a person to believe in it...so far.<br>Yes, I agree that some "aliens" are not aliens at all (pleiadians, f.ex.), who can be, partly, descendants of some old wave of earthlings' "galactic settlement", since these "bloodlines" are so mixed here on Earth and reportedly in our Universe. ETs is better way of speaking of them (some part of grays might be nevertheless "alien" to us, though...). And Agarthians from beneath the Earth surface are definitely rather brothers than aliens.. http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000582-000002/#com91538 Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:50:37 UT http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000582-000002/#com91536 2008-03-10 18:24: comment by <a href="http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v13">bushman</a> on "Recent UFO Sighting in Ukraine ":<br>radiation, as our magnetic field deminishes over time, more harmful rays from the Sun can penetrate to the ground, what better way than to emit reflective particals in jet fuel, to creat a sheild. They would do it over areas that tend to absorb solar heat. I dont think a single gov would be involved, it would be rich corperations doing whatever to lower thier costs so as they wont have to spend billions on cleaning up thier production pollution, assuming CO2 output is the main constiuant gas absorbing heat, although water vapor holds far more heat. I have a hard time believeing Aliens in UFOs are comming from a distant planet, but lets say they arnt Aleins, lets say they are just highly advanced races of beings that evolved right here on Earth. Then it all makes sence. :} http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000582-000002/#com91536 Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:24:38 UT http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000582-000002/#com91535 2008-03-10 18:07: comment by <a href="http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v582">galacton</a> on "Recent UFO Sighting in Ukraine ":<br>that's all just physics and nothing more - the fact is that 90 percent of UFOs are explainable in some sort of scientific conclusions (including new technology/weapons) - I didn't see it myself. Besides, that photo,maybe, was not a picture of the original event - guys might just put it out of the google, as usual. So, orange ball can be explained by sunset rays reflecting/interfering from/through the ice and "smoke" - by somehow 'not illuminated' part of dispersing contrail, but that 'thing' kept jumping back and forth...that's perplexing....And I believe that our Ukrainian gov't is too busy with politics now :-)to chemtrail us (though the population keeps decreasing at the fast pace, indeed), interesting that you spoke of chemtrails as a common thing, or chemtrails also mean agriculture aviation activities?....but why over "less-green-every-day-city"?:-) http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000582-000002/#com91535 Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:07:26 UT http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000582-000002/#com91425 2008-03-06 16:39: comment by <a href="http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v13">bushman</a> on "Recent UFO Sighting in Ukraine ":<br>could just be increased water vapor in a layer, that was super heated by jet engines, then turned to heavy con trail ice crystals. Ive seen both chem trails and intermitant con trails from jets. When there is lots of air traffic, you can see that there is a water vapor layer that takes the look of undulating hills. If they are chem trails that layer looks flat spreads out evenly and then will show a microwave signature in the form of a bubble within the man made overcast. Im going to say you got a pic of a con trail broken up by the jetstream. http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000582-000002/#com91425 Thu, 6 Mar 2008 16:39:16 UT http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000582-000002/#com91422 2008-03-06 15:23: comment by <a href="http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v582">galacton</a> on "Recent UFO Sighting in Ukraine ":<br>HAARP even in their "mild" operational mode seem to be not safe adult toys. If these phenomena are not ET origin - to which degree they might be detrimental to people or environment? Could local nsas or the military know the real cause of this show?<br>By the way - that link - cheniere - just a liquid gas transporter.. http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000582-000002/#com91422 Thu, 6 Mar 2008 15:23:51 UT http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000582-000002/#com91365 2008-03-04 07:16: comment by <a href="http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v308">vaxen</a> on "Recent UFO Sighting in Ukraine ":<br>scalar interferometry being tested in these areas. cf: http://www.cheniere.com/ for an exaustive account of such allied phenomena. Thanks for the info Vladimir. <br><br>If I get a chance I'll get the exact pages for you so you won't have to hunt so much at Toms' site... http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000582-000002/#com91365 Tue, 4 Mar 2008 07:16:54 UT http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000582-000001/#com91349 2008-03-03 21:19: comment by <a href="http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v582">galacton</a> on "UFO-related News from Russia":<br>typed in in Google this nice-sounding name PROMIS and on the 1st page came across an old but interesting article where it's said "the gov't" stole it by "trickery, fraud and deceit" yet in 1982 from some Inslaw firm and then kept selling (to 50 countries) and reselling it getting much profit. Interesting is that the Internet was in its baby age then and 1st PC appeared,if I'm not wrong, in 1981, so, so much attention for this tracking software already then...and some people used it for cyber-money-laundering still in early 80s - cool!<br><br>http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:8GVIANoH-lsJ:libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi%3FArtNum%3D15507+PROMIS+weapons&hl=ru&ct=clnk&cd=7&gl=ua<br><br>I agree that Eurasia is important (oil), but Ukrainian agriculture will be ruin after its upcoming accession to WTO this year. No more the breadbasket of Europe, if ever :(. http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000582-000001/#com91349 Mon, 3 Mar 2008 21:19:35 UT http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000582-000001/#com91338 2008-03-03 05:45: comment by <a href="http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v308">vaxen</a> on "UFO-related News from Russia":<br>you'll be continuing with your UFO news soon. Yes we do have a variety of 'soft weapons' not considered lethal but which really are. Dr. Nick Begich's work on this is interesting as is Flannagens neuro phone and further military developements of 'silent sound' which kills.<br><br>For these miserable inheritors of the Fascist orders will and ways I have nothing but contempt for they consider this worlds human peoples as well as life forms on all dynamics nothing but guinea pigs for their wretched applications. It is my belief that our countries have been working together beyond the polemics of the political propaganda machines towards the creation of a one world order utilising the hegelian dialectic such as you see in the current facade here where the presidential primaries are concerned. There are no real elections in this country or, I dare say, any.<br><br>I've been studying a strange Company called Ptech which is also the name of a software which is a further evolution of the PROMIS software. You would not beleive how this worlds COmputer systems are all linked together, now, through this set of applications under the real control of the UAE, Dubai, and Saudia Arabian financiers and developement groups. The real force behinid the 911 Fals flag operation.<br><br>Well, I'm getting out of hand here. Glad to know you are studying these issues too. Ukrania used to be considered the breadbasket of Europe as Eurasia is of the world. And the real target today is the same as it was in the last century and in Napoleaons time for it is felt that if you conquer Eurasia you rule the world. What an insane lot of jerks who've elected themselves to be 'leaders' of mankind! AS you might be able to tell...I do not believe in 'leaders' at all. Glad you're here Vladimir. http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000582-000001/#com91338 Mon, 3 Mar 2008 05:45:50 UT http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000582-000001/#com91325 2008-03-02 18:48: comment by <a href="http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v582">galacton</a> on "UFO-related News from Russia":<br>Yes, for me, too, politicians and just people are two different classes in most countries, I believe - when a person gets "up there to a higher echelon", he usually (there may be some exclusions) gets mind-corrupted to a preferred degree because of the pressure of his environment. I often read now the remarks of people which say, to put it mild, that America is no more an oasis of liberty. But, perhaps, some "subliminal" activity of the internationa movement "the secret warriors" (www.nesara.us, Leo Wanta team and the like) will help "liberate" it in a not distant future. <br><br>As I know, the mind control games (I've read the Sharon's article) started as yearly as in 20s, when GPU was formed. Apart from technology, they already then used sensitive people ("extrasenses" as they are called here) for their ends, as they do now. Some not secret information still can surface in some documentaries shown on Russian (and then Ukrainian, where I live) TV in the course of eternal polemics with the Soviet era, but it's filtered and under control, I believe. BTW, in the last year's end, when Georgia experienced public unrest events, the police seem to have used some special devices working through mobile phones on demostrators (perhaps, of American origin)to disperse them - I got a long article where some psychiatrists report on very unusual symptoms which people experienced all of a sudden - strong fear,obfuscated consciousness etc. while the events.<br><br>The question as to Russian psylabs is how could they get through the gov't control so that to sell anything of such a kind especially now when there is such cooling between the USA and Russia, though I understand that "to sell" anything should be great motivating force for Russian scientists :-)? Strange.<br><br>As for UFO news, to be continued...soon.:) http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000582-000001/#com91325 Sun, 2 Mar 2008 18:48:52 UT http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000582-000001/#com91228 2008-02-29 06:18: comment by <a href="http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v308">vaxen</a> on "UFO-related News from Russia":<br>Glad you visited his site. There is a lot of Soviet Psi activity coming over here especially with the Department of Homeland Security. The Psychotechnology Research Institute in Moscow has developed a pleasent little instrument that reads minds/thoughts and will be in place by 09 here in our airports.<br><br>The USA is more of a Stalinist Gulag than Russia... the final phase. ;) A little OSINT goes a long way and GRU is GRU. Even if by a new name FSB. <br><br>Hope you'll be publishing more UFO related stuff here soon, Vladimir. Exopolitically speaking our two countries should go beyond MAD and shake hands getting rid, inasmuch as is possible, the old, tired, political ideas of the 19th and 20th centuries. After all it is one world, isn't it?<br><br>(http://www.wired.com/politics/security/news/2007/09/mind_reading)<br>http://www.wired.com/images/article/full/2007/09/mind_reading_room_500px.jpg<br>http://www.blogrunner.com/snapshot/D/0/3/46F240430676BA03/inbox.t.html http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000582-000001/#com91228 Fri, 29 Feb 2008 06:18:25 UT http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000582-000001/#com91214 2008-02-28 21:15: comment by <a href="http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v582">galacton</a> on "UFO-related News from Russia":<br>Seem not to have heard about him. Famous person, according to a short book annotation. But I looked through some topics on the site - seems interesting, and in particular, some rare info on secret Soviet (and now Russian) psychotronic weapons. Will read somehow. Though i'm not a physicist, but strongly sympathize with such people... http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000582-000001/#com91214 Thu, 28 Feb 2008 21:15:45 UT http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000582-000001/#com91149 2008-02-26 21:22: comment by <a href="http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v308">vaxen</a> on "UFO-related News from Russia":<br>Vladimir. Welcome. Are you familar with Colonel Tom Beardens' works?<br><br>Here's the toc to his site: http://www.cheniere.org/toc.html<br><br>And this area especially interests me: http://www.cheniere.org/explore%20articles/mind%20control1/index.html http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000582-000001/#com91149 Tue, 26 Feb 2008 21:22:26 UT http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000582-000001/#com91113 2008-02-25 21:03: comment by <a href="http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v13">bushman</a> on "UFO-related News from Russia":<br>Welcome to the news logs. http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/__show_article/_a000582-000001/#com91113 Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:03:30 UT