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 20 Oct 2002 @ 15:05
From an ongoing discussion on Rishi's "Regime Change" Post...
I'd like to join in here, for a true debate....backing up statements with facts and truth. This is the true spirit of debate and one that is rarely seen. For those that believe we are involved with the rest of world for the highest benefit of all, for freedom and democracy and for the upholding of human rights...I give you the following link with evidence of some of the "terrorist" activities by our one and only...US Military.
A Chronology of U.S. Terrorism Operations
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(...) This list of nations represents literally millions of human beings all over the world who have been brutally murdered - directly by the United States military/government or by its obedient proxies. Huge though the list is, there is yet more to add. But it does at least contain most of the known campaigns of American state terrorism, genocide and subversion - all of which are in the historical record for the whole world to see. God only knows what evil the U.S. government and military have committed that remains hidden. And as long as the United States remains a military power, the list of state terror victims will keep growing. HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT IS LISTED THERE... (And there is a LOT more!) 2001 - 2002 American State Terrorism of the Afghan Peoples Estimated civilian deaths: 4000-5000 people With total hypocrisy the United States military terrorized and mass-murdered thousands of innocent Afghan civilian people, supposedly in reprisal for the terror attacks of September 11. As they did in Yugoslavia and Iraq, heroic U.S. Air Force pilots murdered thousands of women and children by bombing hospitals and schools and private homes. They even bombed an Afghan wedding party. None of these innocent, civilian victims had anything whatsoever to do with the September 11 attacks. Obviously the so-called "war on terrorism" is a total sham. The real reason the U.S. is in Afghanistan is to get control of Caspian Sea oil. To get the oil out of the Caspian basin they have to run pipelines through Afghanistan. Most unfortunate for the hapless Afghan people. More >
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 20 Oct 2002 @ 10:46
The True face of empire.....
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l#WTC HERE IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE...
1979 - 1992 American Subversion in Afghanistan Estimated civilian deaths: over 1,000,000 people From Killing Hope by William Blum: Everyone knows of the unbelievable repression of women in Afghanistan, carried out by Islamic fundamentalists, even before the Taliban. But how many people know that during the late 1970s and most of the 1980s, Afghanistan had a government committed to bringing the incredibly backward nation into the 20th century, including giving women equal rights? What happened, however, is that the United States poured billions of dollars into waging a terrible war against this government, simply because it was supported by the Soviet Union. Prior to this, CIA operations had knowingly increased the probability of a Soviet intervention, which is what occurred. In the end, the United States won, and the women, and the rest of Afghanistan, lost. More than a million dead, three million disabled, five million refugees, in total about half the population. More >
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 18 Oct 2002 @ 13:32
BEHOLD!
Spiritual Leaders of the World
You are called upon by the People
We beseech and call upon your leadership in these times of crisis! The people suffer and their voices are barely heard, above the din of war drums and political speeches.
We call upon your leadership! Cardinals, Bishops, Priests, Priestesses, Monks, Teachers and spiritual leaders of all kinds, we call upon the wisdom of your office. Be the way-showers to us in these times of war and rumors of war…reveal your wisdom which you have kept largely hidden until now, and lead the way to peace! The people will walk in your footsteps! Governments, policemen, politicians and corporations will heed your call for the laying down of arms, and for the rising up of the beneficence of God and all things Holy, for War is not the way. They too will walk in your footsteps, if you will only lead them now. Form among yourselves the united front of Wise Understanding in the Universality of Human Kind.
Stand with your people in protest of war and rumors of war. Wear the vestments of your Holy office so that we may all perceive where the true moral ground takes its stand. Walk the streets and appear before cameras with us, to pledge your support for peace and understanding among nations and neighbors! Guide us in these darkest of times and come forth, before another world war destroys the future of mankind.
Guide us with your acquired wisdom, and with your connection to Christ, Buddha, Mohammed and all of the other great Way-showers throughout history. Demonstrate the responsibilities rightly invested in you to hold the Titles of Spirituality among humankind, so that we may see the path away from needless war, and toward the light of spiritual brotherhood and sisterhood for ALL TIME.
Show the world, the press, our governments and our brothers and sisters the meaning of the spiritual ministries you regularly provide them. Make it well known, we humbly ask, how the people who look for your leadership may best serve God and Truth in unity and peace. Show us all with your eloquence, your moral courage in the face of adversity, your fortitude in crisis, that peace, understanding and spiritual aspiration are the best road to a better Era for all life on Earth.
Let there be no war with Iraq or any other nation on Earth, so long as the words of true righteousness ring forth in the world.
YOU ARE CALLED UPON BY THE PEOPLE…GUIDE OUR STEPS!
Let this notice go forth to every church, temple, synagogue, sacred grove and all other places of worship. Present it to the leaders and way-showers of these places, so that they may know the people need their guidance, now more than ever. More >
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 14 Oct 2002 @ 11:04
The following was a speech given at the national convention of Concerned Voters, receiving a standing ovation to a crowd of over 2800 people, on October 5th, 2002.
Who Do We Think We Are?
It’s really very interesting when you think about it, in realizing the fact that throughout all this talk of war with Iraq, never does anyone in government or the media ever ask; “Hey, why is this our business?” Iraq isn’t a state, or a territory, or a province of the United States. It doesn’t hold any special obligation to our country that I know of, which specifies how it should run its own affairs. So who do we think we are, telling another country what to do? Who are we to invade and occupy any other country, simply because we don’t approve of their leaders or policies? Who are we to install puppet dictators out of convenience one year, and knock them down the next?
Some will say that “Being the only remaining ‘superpower’, makes it our responsibility to guide the world”. Yeah? Who says so? Upon what democratically granted or God given powers, is the United States supposedly invested, to dictate to the world how it should govern its affairs? We have no such power. No one “voted us into office” as a world policeman. No one elected the U.S. as Judge, Jury and Executioner, who holds all worldly wrongs to the light of our superior justice. The world does not bankroll us to militarize it’s borders or agreements, nor do we have any special providence through international law to function as an Overseer for the people’s of all nations. Only WE claim to have such authority, (by “WE”, I mean the U.S. government currently in power). Why? Because we have such a huge military….everybody else is scared stiff of us, that’s why. But that isn’t real authority is it? This is merely the power of the bully who hasn’t yet been seriously challenged. It is by no means the authority invested in having any “moral high ground“. Quite the contrary, ours is increasingly the “moral low ground”.
Some will say that “Saddam Hussein has weapons of mass destruction” and is a menace to the world. Others say that although there is no proof Saddam Hussein has weapons of mass destruction, he never the less wants and actively seeks them. Now here’s another question the government and media never ask; “Out of the 200 largest countries in the world, how many DO NOT either possess weapons of mass destruction or actively seek them out?” Well the answer is obvious…NO ONE. So what does this imply regarding our indictment of Saddam Hussein, and his not-so-special desire for such weapons? It implies that he is only one in a very large crowd, and by no means special, nor is he deserving of any special criticisms or treatment in the international community on that basis. So how then can the American government justify going to war with Iraq on these grounds? It absolutely can’t. It CANNOT! The possession of a weapon is insufficient grounds to convict a person of murder, much less execute them for a crime against their fellow human beings. Under any honest or logical standard of international law the same should, and in fact MUST, be said of any country. We do not execute people as murderers for crimes they MIGHT commit, nor do we have the right to destroy countries who MIGHT use weapons of mass destruction. Also, is it not more than just a little ironic that throughout all this discussion of removing weapons of mass destruction from Saddam Hussein, that the United States openly discusses when, how and where they will use those very same weapons to accomplish this end?
Is it not more than a little ironic that WE GAVE nerve gas and various biological agents to Iraq during the Iran-Iraq war, less than two decades ago, urging them to use these on their neighbors? Where was all our moralizing then? That’s another issue the media and government wont touch.
In all this talk of war and its “cost” to taxpayers, never is there any real consideration of how many Iraqi lives will be lost, most of which will no doubt be civilian. It’s clear that the government and medias’ focus, is as usual, money considerations before lives or mass suffering.
Some will say that Saddam Hussein is a ruthless dictator, a despot and a tyrant, and therefore cannot be trusted by the international community. Well here’s another question never asked by the government or the media…”How many governments in the world are run by ruthless dictators, tyrants and despots?” If you are any student of international relations or history, then you know the answer….COUNTLESS. Once again we are faced with the quandary of U.S. government insanity…On the one hand we are told that we must kill Saddam Hussein and by necessity, 100,000 or so of his fellow Iraqi military and civilians, because he is a tyrant.. On the other we are faced with the fact that the world is full of tyrants, not the least of which, it is arguable, the current president of the United States, via his virtual declaration of war on half the world through the so-called “War on Terror”. Who would be more ruthless and tyrannical, Saddam Hussein and his “threat to the world community” or US, (the U.S.) in the carpet bombing of Baghdad and all other Iraqi cities? Who’s talking about killing who here?
The Bush administration has openly discussed the “option” of using nuclear weapons in battle, and has constantly repeated the “pre-emptive strike” mantra of “hit them first before they hit us”. Once again, who does the law hold accountable for assault and battery, when one person hits another without provocation? The person who strikes first, that’s who. I can just see the defendant in such a case pleading with the judge…“But your honor, I only hit him because I figured he might hit me in the future!“ The Judge would not only put him away because this is a ridiculous defense, he would probably unload a few more years of prison time on this guy, for being a maniac.. So why should international law be any different? Why should one country be able to appoint itself as the policeman of the world, and then proceed to sock “the other guy “ in the jaw first, as a so-called “pre-emptive” strike? So let’s not look too closely at what tyrants and despots do as an excuse for U.S. war plans, because there lingers here the unmistakable stench of hypocrisy and war mongering. At least, don’t look too close if you want to remain “loyal” to the so-called “war effort”. Face it people! This government line is WHOLLY CRIMINAL and outright mass murderous! There is no excuse for such behavior as going to war with Iraq “pre-emotively”. Any one who supports this nonsense is just as liable for rightful punishment for mass murder, under any international war crimes hearing, as is George Bush and his team of war mongering murderers. No more, no less., just like Hitler was.
Besides, who here doesn’t know yet, that all this “Showdown with Iraq” nonsense is about getting their oil? Iraq has the second largest reserve of oil in the world, and this has nothing to do with it, we’re supposed to believe. Uh huh. I wonder how God-awful hell-bent on war the Bush Administration would be, if there was no oil in Iraq? Or better yet, what if the United Nations said, “Sure, take over Iraq, but give every drop of oil proceeds right back to the Iraqi citizens”. You can bet that will never happen!
Let us also take a minute to discuss the possibility of creating World War 3, with our reckless and criminal actions as a country. Some will say that even discussing this possibility is over-reacting, that this will never happen so long as the U.S. is “taking care of the world”. Well stop and think for a minute longer, as to what kind of precedent our new set of international policies creates. Rather than the old fashioned diplomacy and peaceful, mutual understanding approach to international relations, now we have “you are either with us or against us”. Rather than disarmament we have a new escalation in military spending the world over, as every national leader tries to keep pace with the New World Order of George Bush. Rather than working together for the greater good of humanity, we have the “War on Terror”, which would be more aptly named the “War of Terror” one that is literally terrorizing the majority of the world. It’s got a number a nation states at each other’s throats, such as in the case of India and Pakistan. It’s got every nation persecuting their political opposition by branding them as “terrorists”, as an excuse for torture, mass imprisonment and mass murder. You can literally cut the escalating world tensions with a knife on any given day, and guess what…the United States is behind it all.
Given the above mentioned criteria for going to war with another country, “pre-emptively”, who among you thinks that Iraq will be the last and final target of U.S. plans for world domination? Who will bet their life savings that George Bush will not find another excuse, using yet another tireless media campaign, to go to war, destroy and conquer such countries as Iran, Libya, Yemen, North Korea and a host of others? What? No one will take this bet? Well, then, maybe you should begin taking this whole matter more seriously. By “this whole matter” I mean the “War of Terror”, George Bush as a murdering maniac in control of the largest military in the world, just twitching with trigger happy glee as he rapes one nation after the next in the name of “democracy”? People seem to think this whole affair is just a game…after all, it’s just, “those people, you know, over there” who are getting killed by the bombs we pay for, and by the military our sons and daughters belong to, and by the government whose flag we fly on our cars and homes. Is this what you stand for when you fly this flag?
Given the precedent we’re providing, who is to say that India should not launch a nuclear attack against Pakistan, or Pakistan against India for the same reason, to “pre-emptively” prevent the use of weapons of mass destruction? Who could rightly criticize one invading the other, killing millions of people, based on such a criteria for war? Who will criticize China for destroying Taiwan, or Japan for destroying North Korea, or Israel for destroying Palestine? Or for that matter, anybody destroying anybody on behalf of half baked assertions, and big talk but little proof of anything?!! Who will count all the bodies if everybody destroys everybody else “pre-emptively”. It’s all sheer Madness!
So when the world gets so fed up with us that it simply will not take any more lies and bullying, just remember why nuclear and/or biological war began in the first place. It began because WE CREATED IT, or at the very least, as average citizens, let it happen. Don’t blame Saddam Hussein, or Osama Bin Laden or any other tyrant. Blame George Bush and the Congress and Senate, as well as the average American who didn’t have the guts to speak their mind and say what’s right, while there was still time to prevent the destruction of mankind. More >
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13 Oct 2002 @ 10:42
Documents show U.S. delivered germs to Iraq
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Iraq's bioweapons program that President Bush wants to eradicate got its start with help from Uncle Sam two decades ago, according to government records getting new scrutiny in light of the discussion of war against Iraq.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention sent samples directly to several Iraqi sites that U.N. weapons inspectors determined were part of Saddam Hussein's biological weapons program, CDC and congressional records from the early 1990s show. Iraq had ordered the samples, claiming it needed them for legitimate medical research.
The CDC and a biological sample company, the American Type Culture Collection, sent strains of all the germs Iraq used to make weapons, including anthrax, the bacteria that make botulinum toxin and the germs that cause gas gangrene, the records show. Iraq also got samples of other deadly pathogens, including the West Nile virus.
The transfers came in the 1980s, when the United States supported Iraq in its war against Iran. They were detailed in a 1994 Senate Banking Committee report and a 1995 follow-up letter from the CDC to the Senate.
The exports were legal at the time and approved under a program administered by the Commerce Department.
''I don't think it would be accurate to say the United States government deliberately provided seed stocks to the Iraqis' biological weapons programs,'' said Jonathan Tucker, a former U.N. biological weapons inspector.
''But they did deliver samples that Iraq said had a legitimate public health purpose, which I think was naive to believe, even at the time.''
The disclosures put the United States in the uncomfortable position of possibly having provided the key ingredients of the weapons America is considering waging war to destroy, said Sen. Robert Byrd, D-W.Va. Byrd entered the documents into the Congressional Record this month.
Invoices included in the documents read like shopping lists for biological weapons programs. One 1986 shipment from the Virginia-based American Type Culture Collection included three strains of anthrax, six strains of the bacteria that make botulinum toxin and three strains of the bacteria that cause gas gangrene. Iraq later admitted to the United Nations that it had made weapons out of all three.
The company sent the bacteria to the University of Baghdad, which U.N. inspectors concluded had been used as a front to acquire samples for Iraq's biological weapons program.
The CDC, meanwhile, sent shipments of germs to the Iraqi Atomic Energy Commission and other agencies involved in Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs. It sent samples in 1986 of botulinum toxin and botulinum toxoid -- used to make vaccines against botulinum toxin -- directly to the Iraqi chemical and biological weapons complex at al-Muthanna, the records show.
Botulinum toxin is the paralyzing poison that causes botulism. Having a vaccine to the toxin would be useful for anyone working with it, such as biological weapons researchers or soldiers who might be exposed to the deadly poison, Tucker said.
The CDC also sent samples of a strain of West Nile virus to an Iraqi microbiologist in the city of Basra in 1985, the records show.
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On the Net:
The documents are available at: [link]
CDC: [link]
ATCC: [link]
©The Morning Journal 2002
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