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29 Nov 2005 @ 12:07, by Enocia Joseph

The other day I was watching the quiz show "Who Wants to be a Millionaire" with my mother. One question was about some horror movie director. Mum knew the answer and said the answer was so obvious everyone should know it.

"Well, I didn't," I said.
"How can you not know?"
"Because I don't."
"That's a bit of trivia that most people know."
"Well I don't know trivia," I said.

I have never taken the IQ test and if I do I'm bound to fail. I reckon if my intelligence was measured against the human definition of intelligence then, as we say in the UK, I'm as thick (stupid) as two short planks. I don't see any point in knowing trivia; that's what the Internet is for.

I have never enjoyed collecting data just for the sake of it. At secondary school, my favourite subject was French. I don't know why, it just seemed easy and fun to learn French. I was always top of the class in French. Every year I received a prize for French. Apart from that I was lucky to be in the top 5. In the A-stream, we didn't have much of a choice when it came to what to study for our final year exams. It was either the Arts or the Sciences. We had a choice between Geography or Physics. I couldn't stand Geography and wasn't too keen on Physics either. I chose the lesser of two evils: Physics. We had to choose between Chemistry or History. History was a nightmare as far as I could see so I chose Chemistry. I even chose Additional Maths over another subject, possibly Bible Knowledge. Biology, Literature, English Language, and Maths were compulsory. If I had a choice I would have dropped Literature as I didn't see the point in studying Shakespeare. As far as I was concerned, the guy couldn't even write English; and what use is Shakespeare to an African? French was my saving grace.

At my final year exams, I ended up scraping through Chemistry and failed Physics, Maths and Additional Maths. When I came to England I had to retake all the subjects. Again, I failed Physics and Maths. I finally passed Maths at the third attempt.

It's never too late to discover what you're really good at. I discovered social science in college, though I focused more on media and culture. My passion for French waned somewhat. I also realised I was very good at seeing meanings imbedded in texts and all around us. Then again, I had to learn to let go of meanings as one can get trapped in meanings.

So human intelligence-wise, I'm quite thick. I don't use big words because I don't know big words. I reckon my vocabulary is about 1,000 words, if that. OK that's not strictly true. I went to college so I do know some big words like: plagiarism, patriarchy, homogeneity, diaspora, multidisciplinary, didactic, dialectic, polemics, oxymoronic, discursive, bombastic - to name a few. I tend to live by the maxim: KISS - Keep It Simple, Stupid.

What does intelligence mean for me?

Intelligence is the ability to release thoughts and experiences at the drop of a hat.

Intelligence is asking a question and being still so I can receive the answer in thought; or being able to attract the exact experience in response to my question.

Intelligence is being able to connect with people.

Intelligence is always being inspired to produce great articles.

Intelligence is being in bliss.

I reckon God must have zero IQ. Can you imagine the omnipotent being cares about human doctrines? Why would God want to know stuff? All He needs to say is "Let there be such and such" and it is. I reckon the reason why God wants us to let go and let Him do the work is because He can't explain how He does stuff in words. I bet He doesn't even know how stuff happens. Things just happen.

Because I still have the tendency to analyse stuff, I believe this raises my IQ to about 10, which is bad news. At least an IQ of 10 means I'll still fail IQ tests, which has to be a good thing.

I am a thicko and proud of it.



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29 Nov 2005 @ 14:26 by jmarc : I agree
I responded to another post on intelligence by another member who has since left(?) this site a couple of years ago. My respnse in a nutshell was that there are many types of intelligence, in my opinion. High IQ can be quite dumb about some stuff, and the so called village idiot can sometimes exhibit some profound wisdom overlooked by the "genius". The highest wisdom of all may be realizing that we aren't as smart as we think we are.  

29 Nov 2005 @ 17:06 by Enocia @ : Highest Wisdom
"The highest wisdom of all may be realizing that we aren't as smart as we think we are."

I love this jmarc, thank you. I might even use this quote if you don't mind. It makes one wonder what it's all about.

Love to you,

29 Nov 2005 @ 17:20 by swanny : Death, Love, and Intelligence...
Intelligence, Death And Love

Realizing we're not so smart or as smart as we thought is
a good indicator of intelligence
fairly true....

But I think contemplating death...
works into intelligence somehow...
not quite sure how...
we don't talk much about it
but I thought of how does a father raise a son
that is smarter than he....
and then .... well I guess you just give up at some point...
but then when you mention the word "death" they kind of go

Yet lets not talk about death...
it is a no no of sorts....

intelligence death and the fact perhaps
there is more to the Universe than life and death
but that borders on faith or ???
is that higher intelligence of the or a beyond a very "human" characteristic...?
Are humans the only creatures of and in the Universe that
have done that ? I heard a good or sort of interesting quote
Only Religiion has answers about death....
On that subject "science" seems to fall silent....
So ...... contemplating Death and as well as having the capacity
to Love seem to be aspects that distinguish ourselves from
the more "base" creatures...
but is that intelligence or...???


29 Nov 2005 @ 17:33 by Enocia @ : jmarc
I've used your quote in the following piece (see Thanks again.

Love EJ  

29 Nov 2005 @ 18:17 by jmarc : glad to be a muse :)
most just find me amusing, lol.  

29 Nov 2005 @ 18:24 by jstarrs : Intelligence?
As long as you're happy, I guess.
You sound happy...;0)  

29 Nov 2005 @ 21:08 by bushman : Hmm
My view of being intelegent is just about the indivudual thinking first, like my Xwife, she once dropped the spatula into the french frier, and reached right in and pulled it out, deffinetly wasnt an intellegent move, so Im thinking its about thinking fast and at the same time useing logic and probability, to final outcome, in my x's case, she was out of work for 3 months for that smart move, lol.  

29 Nov 2005 @ 22:12 by silviamar : I think that
intelligence is a pretty subjective concept and there are too many hues in it to find a proper definition. We tend to define and measure everything objectively, but we forget that in some occasions it cannot be done in an objective way. And even if we find such an objective way sometimes the definition is not useful because it doesn't convey all the hues, so the defined term is not completely understood. For example, how could we define the colour 'blue' to a person who has never seen it? We could use the dictionary definition, in terms of a certain wavelength of the light, but do you think that this person would understand what 'blue' is? I think that with intelligence it occurs something similar.  

30 Nov 2005 @ 10:08 by Enocia @ : Contemplating death
Hi Swanny,

I reckon intelligence is what you believe it to be. If contemplating death does it for you then, to use an Americanism "knock yourself out."

Appreciate your commentary.  

30 Nov 2005 @ 10:14 by Enocia @ : Bushman
Hey Bushman,

Your ex-wife could have had a different intelligent outcome to the french frier incident. She could have changed her thoughts and she wouldn't have had any effects. I've scalded my hand with boiling water, not an intelligent move I know, and felt the effect; but I quickly reversed it by thinking "I Am Spirit" and I was instantly healed.

Just an alternative, subjective, intelligent, suggestion. :-)  

30 Nov 2005 @ 10:19 by Enocia @ : Silviamar

I agree with you that "intelligence is a pretty subjective concept." It's also something we're making up all the time. At least now they're realising that there are other types of intelligence such as emotional, kinaesthetic intelligence (which sports people and athletes are meant to have) etc. Whatever one believes is intelligence is intelligence. Just avoid that IQ test, unless you've already taken it! :-)  

30 Nov 2005 @ 10:21 by Enocia @ : Happy?
Hey jstarrs,

Happiness is chatting to you. Of course I'm happy, I'm over the moon, in an intelligent kind of way. ;o)  

1 Dec 2005 @ 22:43 by lena : god is intelligent
I think intelligence is something which can't be measured in any test. it's understanding. it's not regurgitating trivia, it is learning how to remember something OR it can be knowing how to reconstruct information from the most basic understanding. understanding cannot be undone. intelligence cannot be erased. intelligence is spirituality.
Enocia said:
"I reckon God must have zero IQ. Can you imagine the omnipotent being cares about human doctrines? Why would God want to know stuff? All He needs to say is "Let there be such and such" and it is. I reckon the reason why God wants us to let go and let Him do the work is because He can't explain how He does stuff in words. I bet He doesn't even know how stuff happens. Things just happen."

in my opinion nothing can be farther than the truth. I think our definitions of intelligence and God may be different, but here is what I think: God knows how everything works because he MADE everything from scratch. He designed every natural law. weather people understand his work or not, He will always know. He does not associate with our primitive "beliefs" or "religions". God is not an idiot. it takes a lot of knowlege and understanding to design and create an entire universe.  

2 Dec 2005 @ 11:11 by vector8 : lena about God's intelligence
Thank you for your commentary, lena.

God having a zero IQ was my way of writing tongue-in-cheek. Who can measure the immeasurable?

When I talk about things happening in God, I'm referring to the uncaused nature of God i.e. that doesn't operate by cause-effects or natural laws. It is a realm where everything is. How this works is beyond human knowledge, understanding or IQ.  

11 Dec 2005 @ 21:02 by lena @ :
I believe God does operate by natural laws, why wouldn't he? maybe it appears that He doesn't because, like you said, we don't know all the natural laws and we don't know exactly how they work (but He does)  

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