New Civilization News: A Boy Named Sue and the False American Dream    
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picture8 Nov 2008 @ 16:06, by Max Sandor

Amidst concerns for the future of mankind, shortly after a nice little home-brewn monetary crisis, here comes the new American dream, revisited 2008: Barack Obama.

Fascinating to watch how the mass media switches from whining to hoping, worldwide, unisono, of course, with no major newspaper detracting. This alone should give you to think: how come? Where's the catch?

First of all, the actual politics is made by 545 people, see Merlin's wise words [link] !

Even more of concern should be Obama's team. Quote from [link] : "Obama's main overall image adviser and foreign policy adviser is Zbigniew Brzezinski, the co-founder of David Rockefeller's Trilateral Commission, and the mastermind of the disastrous Carter administration."

What about economy: (again quoted) "From Wikipedia: 'Austan D. Goolsbee is an economist and is currently the Robert P. Gwinn Professor of Economics at the University of Chicago Graduate School of Business. He is also a Research Fellow at the American Bar Foundation[1], Research Associate at the National Bureau of Economic Research in Cambridge, Massachusetts, and a member of the Panel of Economic Advisors to the Congressional Budget Office."

So, there you have it! Nothing NEW, in the contrary, America goes back to the time of Jimmy Carter, congratulations, good luck, folks!

Obama in short: new face, same old...

But enough of this negativity! Let's "think positive" for a moment! Let's go..

WHAT IF, yes, what if the idea that is supposedly behind the masterplan of our rulers were true? Meaning, that the interpretation of Kant's 'thesis-antithese-synthesis' were correct, which would, in the extreme, mean that 'war creates evolution of man' (or at least accelerates it)?

A bold move, which reminds me of:

Johnny Cash's little long song "A boy named Sue"
[link] .

In the song, the boy named Sue by his dad and abandoned when he was three, as an adult finally finds his pa and beats him up in a terrible fight, ready to kill him. Then he lets his dad talk:

"And he said: "Son, this world is rough
And if a man's gonna make it, he's gotta be tough
And I knew I wouldn't be there to help ya along.
So I give ya that name and I said goodbye
I knew you'd have to get tough or die
And it's the name that helped to make you strong."
[end quote]

For some (many?) this is reasonable and there seems to be some truth in it. Just like a war destroying a country is giving a new opportunity to rebuild everything in a 'better way'. But to force this pattern into the category of a 'synthesis' is a fallacy in thinking.

People "get going" when they have to do so. When the "level of necessity" is high enough that complacency and laziness cannot be continued, people "get going". This model is much simpler than Kant's meanderings, and, using Occam's razor. , methinks it is time to throw away the garbage of thesis-antithesis-synthesis to where it belongs. Or, more politely, bury it on the graveyard of Memes that aren't useful anymore.

Mankind seems to have made some rapid progress in a short time. To claim it was the succession of wars is a mad theory but the opposite cannot be proven either, of course. Not to speak of the degeneration of language and other cultural cornerstone in recent years, amongst other a result of a despicable low level of culture in the mass media.

Nevertheless, we are at the brink of "waking up" as a species. And this is NOT a False American Dream like replacing the captain of a sinking ship. It is a growing reality that more and more humans leave their belief systems behind, shrug off their indoctrinations, seeing the world with new eyes, thereby transcending their reality.

Timothy Leary's dream [link] is coming true.

But not for those who keep on dreaming that Obama's election would be a step forward without seeing that he's going three steps behind at the same time, becoming just another Jimmy Carter.

It's coming true for those of us that have the courage to look at what is happening in front of us. This morning when I said I might be writing about what I then wrote and what you've read right now, Heloisa asked me with surprise: "But, this is so obvious, it's OBVIOUS, why would you write about this?, it's so obvious...".


I did anyway, as you noticed .;)

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8 Nov 2008 @ 19:23 by mortimer : Blindingly Obvious
Like looking at Plaid (pattern) up close, blindingly obvious. I can tell you much about strangers on the street, like what Orisa they maybe working with, get to know them well, get more involved and up close and its hard tell. Voters are involved and thereby somewhat blinded by the obvious.

Way back in January...Lakotah man said "watch, they gonna put black man in office and call it community service."~{|Wanbli WiWohkpe}

Rulers do not trust well-informed people to make logical decisions.....


{|The Century Of The Self - Part 1}

{|The Century Of The Self - Part 2}

{|The Century Of The Self - Part 3}

{|The Century Of The Self - Part 4}

The Century of the Self is an acclaimed documentary by filmmaker Adam Curtis released in 2002.
"This series is about how those in power have used Freud's theories to try and control the dangerous crowd in an age of mass democracy." - Adam Curtis

There is no meme graveyard, memes never die, they merely take a nap.  

8 Nov 2008 @ 19:50 by Merlin Silk @ : The Danger of Obvious
I am still struggling with the understanding of the statement that many masters try to teach us, that 'The World IS as we see it.'

Intellectually I have no problem with this statement but when it comes to reject the idea that there is any significance in the fact that Barak Obama bin Laden is just another Carter, I have a problem.

Because it is so blindingly obvious.

If these masters I mentioned before are indeed right - which they might not - then if I am able to see Obama as the savior of the world, then he will be, because any, I mean ANY, view of a situation will be self-fulfilling. And there is the danger of blatant obviousness, that which we once lean to will get stronger and stronger in us. More and more people with the same reality will come into our lives which make the obvious even more so.

How to break this vicious cycle? I guess to step back and question the most obvious, right?

But then again, these masters might just work for the power to be and, just as religions, try to give us something that makes carrying the load of their oppression easier by giving us a fake way out - like the Christian paradise - where we are the total creator of our reality, while in reality the world is determined - by somebody, just not us.

If I could only decide what it is...  

8 Nov 2008 @ 20:31 by mx @ : questioning the re-re-re-revealed..
So-called secrets are being constantly unveiled and then newly re-vealed. If not, how come that all these people who are disclosing the deepest secrets are still alive?
As you know, I myself as well as Heloisa are in the business of questioning everything and everyone at every time. That's what we are getting paid for.
So what is obvious for us is news for many but still we have to question everything.
Except your wife, you can NEVER question her. Or else you would find yourself in deep ....
PS: Mortimer, thanks for the links!  

8 Nov 2008 @ 21:08 by mortimer : Hidden deep within the mind
According to Freud theory about human nature, which is being utilized politically, seems Obama does not appeal to Merlin’s primitive, sexual, and aggressive forces which are hidden deep within the mind.  

8 Nov 2008 @ 21:33 by mx @ : veoh & Wanbli WiWohkpe
Mortimer, veoh locks out Brazil (like a few other countries). Do you have another link for Wanbli WiWohkpe's video ?  

8 Nov 2008 @ 22:35 by mortimer : unblock world proxy server
Just tried this site and it worked for me --- {|}  

8 Nov 2008 @ 23:00 by mx @ : veoh
veoh is a drag, see ... I can unblock it but still it won't load.

can someone upload the Wanbli clip on a decent video server?  

10 Nov 2008 @ 13:58 by mortimer : Primitive sexual and aggressive forces

(!impotency) Hopeless <--------> Hope (!potency)

decent video server? There's no such animal.
Wanbli WiWohkpe's videos were removed from youtube.

{|Johnny Cash "A Boy Named Sue" live at San Quentin in 1969}  

10 Nov 2008 @ 14:36 by solomoreno : A deep irony
There is a deep irony in the recent rise of Barack Hussein Obama. His solutions are calls for more claims of innocence when it's innocence that created a need for his solutions in the first place. "When a nation expects to be ignorant and expects what never was and never will be."--Jefferson. If my people want innocence, they will get slavery. And that's what they will deserve.

I was doing some no-mind exercises on Election Day but I couldn't help but see a colossal and suffocating black cloud hovering over my country. I knew there had to be SOMETHING huge and pervasive to explain the degree of delusion and poor thinking that was going on in regards to this false Messiah. It couldn't be a process that everyone went through individually. It's like the same thing is happening inside all of these losers. Mx: Is this a morphogenetic field of perhaps just an entity I've seen? I've never witnessed a field before (of course, felt their effect though).


10 Nov 2008 @ 14:58 by mortimer : Solomoreno Link
maybe this works, Solomoreno blog  

10 Nov 2008 @ 20:52 by vaxen : Solo...
innocence is not the same thing as ignorance. Americans are not innocent but they sure are ignorant as to who really runs the country and has since the very beginnings.

Witnessing such a field means you must be perceptic enough to be able to do something about it. You kow, of course, that theta is theta and MEST is MEST and theta trumps MEST eveytime. THen there is Minkowski space. A crude beginning... Real and virtual? What is perceived IS perceived. What's your postulate?

"Obama in short: new face, same old..."

Thanks for this little article, Mx. It is nice to know that some of the old guard know what is happening and are not duped.

"For some (many?) this is reasonable and there seems to be some truth in it. Just like a war destroying a country is giving a new opportunity to rebuild everything in a 'better way'. But to force this pattern into the category of a 'synthesis' is a fallacy in thinking."  

10 Nov 2008 @ 22:13 by mortimer : mind over matter
{|Discrete Vs Structural Processing}  

11 Nov 2008 @ 21:31 by mortimer : now avialable on google video

{|Riding With Ghosts} ~ The Award Winning documentary by filmmaker Wanbli WiWohkpe about the struggles of Lakota People.  

11 Nov 2008 @ 22:55 by vaxen : Mind...
and matter as one. The sound of one hand clapping? Theta is thought not mind. Mind/Mynd is memory and memory is Mugin? Hugin and Mugin HU-Gin and MU-Gin. Gin=creating, Gin-ning... as in cotton 'gin-ning (Ginnunga gap?).' Kenaz of the Runen. The alchemical furnace. Yesh min ain. Something out of nothing where nothing is actually something. Theta is beyond it all? Source is?

11 Nov 2008 @ 23:23 by mortimer : Whats the cotten picking point
alchemical furnace? are you having problem separating the movie projector from the film strip, or the movie screen from the movie projector? 'if the screen fits, project it. a symbiotic relationship, a co-creator. Or expressed as a movie metaphor ...You can project your reality all you want but to render reality your movie projection must fit the movie screen.

Source is total source of all sources

Hugin and Mugin are the two ravens of the most high god Odin.
They fly all over the world and tell Odin about what they have
seen and heard. Hugin thinks. Mugin remembers. Everything.

function reality()(

onload = reality()  

12 Nov 2008 @ 03:55 by vaxen : No point...
When there is no point there is no point of view to view. Once a point has been established then one creates other points from whence to view dimension. Such a limited point of view from whence to view all things cannot be said to be highly evolved consciousness but why must we assume that evolution is a reality? Everything just is and nothing evolves not even you until you do construct a viewpoint from whence to view the realities you are constructing, mocking up. Why do thetans mock up?  

12 Nov 2008 @ 04:12 by a-d : It it said that
"That which doesn't kill us, makes us stronger". .... Hmmmmm... Maybe, but I hate it! *!*

I googled Odin's Ravens, but in Swedish, and this was the first site that showed: Hugin & Munin InterNet Bulletin. Doesn't seem to exist with translation. Namnen Hugin och Munin betyder ”tanke” och ”känsla” eller ”tanke” och ”minne”, dvs förnuft och intuition: The names Hugin and Mugin means: "Thought" and "Feeling" or "Thought" and "Memory", which is to say: "Rational/Sense" and "Intuition".

Here is a fabulous link! : )

Been trying grasp what you guys have said here in this thread of Thoughts.... Seems to be over my head! ^!^... I'll read it all tomorrow again while day light!...heheheh  

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