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27 comments27 Jun 2002 @ 05:23 by istvan : Dear Ming,
I am glad you are talking about this subject.
Many people are feeling that somehow they are being stuck almost to the feelings of slavery. They are right about the feelings, but not the causes. One of the most fundamental ways the powerful of human societies have maintained control over the populace have been and is now are technological tricks to use basic needs as ilusions of services they provide for these needs. The needs are created by them and the solutions are the way they get you.
I have tried to create some interest in this phenomena on the technology site in the subjects section without any success. Either people are not interested or not willing to spend time on this.
Yet the realities indicate to me that our slavery starts here and then moves on to other levels of mental, and spiritual control.
The automobile: I have tried to figure out why people are so attached to their wehicles, to the point of worship an sacrifying large amounts of energy toward them. The only explanation i came up with is that the car, the tool and symbol of mobility crates an illusion of freedom. So the companies knowing this use the desire to enslave and their technological solutions are the methods to this.
Right down the line all tech fields are set up to ensnare and keep the custumer in control. This is really the basic method and success of capitalism.
To create a new civilisation we must create new technologies that are not in the control of the peopleusers.
You should post this article in the technology section, may be more of our members would check in once in a while. Together we should be able to come to sme solutions.
27 Jun 2002 @ 06:40 by kay : About cars and some other tech stuff...
I have a small electric car for scooting around in. Wayne has a combination car that uses both gas and alternatives. In our new housing development we have built roads that the water runs through instead of off of, only electric cars are used. The power sourse is our own. We are building energy free homes now. So there is some progress being made. Wayne is accessing chemo that is DNA interactive to the point that it only effects the cancer celss and not the rest of the body functions. It is not yet available in the USA but it has totally fried the tumors. It is a matter now of ridding the blood stream of possible tell tale cancer cells. Thanks Ming, ZD for you inputs. I think a lot of folks are interested in keeping up with the Jones'. It is gonna take a willingness to live a more simple lifestyle.
27 Jun 2002 @ 06:43 by jstarrs : Ah! Burroughs had it, all along!
"Don't let them see us, don't tell them what we are doing! "
Are these the words of the all powerful boards and syndicates of
"- Don't let them see us, don't tell them what we are doing!
Not the cancer deal with the Venusians, not the green deal!
Don't let that out!
Disaster, disaster, unevaluable disaster!
27 Jun 2002 @ 07:25 by bushman : Hmm
lol, well accualy the fact is you can get all the codes for making those ajustments. You ever see those snap-on tools trucks? Did you know anyone can walk up to these trucks just like an icecream truck. Yep, they carry everything you need to fix your car including the cable to go from your laptop or just buy thier cart that comes with the codes and updates for new cars as they are produced. Theres no real secrets if you ask the right persons. Your not a machanic if you don't use snap-on tools, lol. Hey, J, they don't have to tell us anything since thier own works will give them away. We need only to pay attention and stay in focus to see thier act.
27 Jun 2002 @ 07:55 by kay : Thanks......
.....Bushman for the info. It pays to speak up. You can get good feedback that way. But this one I am going to check out for myself.
27 Jun 2002 @ 14:15 by ming : Simplicity
It is of course silly to run around buying new things just because companies are advertising them and tries to make us believe we need them.
But I don't really buy the view either that we just need less of everything, and more slowly. I would like our technology to be in harmony with nature, so that it isn't an ecological crime to manufacture it, or to use it. And I'd like there to be clarity about what various things are good for, or not good for, and what they really do. But, given all of that, I would want access to the technology that most efficiently allows me to do the things I need to do.
I would want to be as free to move around as possible, and I would want to communicate as easily as possible, wherever I am. But, given any choice, I'd always prefer to do those things in cooperation with Mother Nature.
28 Jun 2002 @ 00:17 by vaxen : Yes flemming...
and I am truly sorry that you have had to go through such a run around. Wo'nt be that way forever, though, and in that you might have a bit of solace. Companies lie Cingular wo'nt last. Their 'business' model sux and any Company whose concern is not the people they 'serve' will not last as well. RIght now they can afford to be cowboyish in their attitudes towards their customers. There is nothing that they have that cannot be hacked. Nothing!
Incidentally there is something akimbo in your MySQL, I think, for in logging into the main area I get:
Warning: Unable to jump to row 0 on MySQL result index 127 in /home/ncn/public_html/mem/communicate.php on line 163
Warning: Unable to jump to row 0 on MySQL result index 127 in /home/ncn/public_html/mem/communicate.php on line 164
The above comes between 'Silvermoon' and 'Infernos Life Story.' I'll login again later to se if it is just a temporary glitch or something more serious. Take care bro and keep fighting.
29 Jun 2002 @ 09:36 by chaiyah : Living with sustainable cars
...I have no car now, but if I did, it would be a car that doesn't need computer codes to service it.
...In fact, there is a restored 1940 DeSoto down the street that looks pretty good because it is a simple machine, for which a machinist can actually machine the parts from scratch, if need be.
...I'm kidding. I want an electric one, when they come down in price.
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30 Jun 2002 @ 03:51 by maxtobin : Products
Try www.navman.com to check out some product from NZ manufacturer for e-nabeling your PDA as a mobile device/position definer, this is truly an area of ineterest. Technology moves fast and we do need to stay aware of the consequences, in every sense there are some wave lengths of EM that are fine and some are poisonous, also same goes that we are all pewrhaps sensitivce at differing levels. Just don't take anything for granted always look under the hood long before you need to do the preventative maintainence
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