|New Civilization News: Wikipedia on Mohammed cartoons|
62 comments7 Feb 2006 @ 20:13 by jstarrs : Doesn't look like...
..the URL is valid.
"WWIII was caused by a cartoon" - I see it all now.
7 Feb 2006 @ 20:29 by judih : here's the link
7 Feb 2006 @ 21:41 by depyva @18.104.22.168 : voopie
So the enlightenment stuff got boring soon enough eh...?
7 Feb 2006 @ 22:35 by ming : Link
Thanks. Oops, I forgot to enter the actual link. Now it is working.
Well, enlightenment is more interesting to me, but, hey, you've got to listen to your audience too.
8 Feb 2006 @ 00:36 by Joel Sax @22.214.171.124 : Tenth Crusade?
That's what it looks like to me: Europeans on one side, Middle Easterners on the other.
I'm staying out.
8 Feb 2006 @ 09:56 by jazzolog : Enlightenment
Actually this entry encouraged Jeff's comment just above---which I find among the most enlightened in recent history. Assassination, surprise attack (Pearl Harbor, not Baghdad...hmmmm) and now a cartoon. Who says the march of human progress has created the Age of Disappointment? Ooops, I think maybe it was me.
PS Oh oh, I see the editor who started the whole furor is also named "Flemming." Flemming Rose. I know it's a common name in Denmark...but is synchronicity shimmering around NCN again? Kevin Sullivan says Mr. Rose smelled a good story. http://msnbc.msn.com/id/11227487/
8 Feb 2006 @ 10:28 by pars @126.96.36.199 : fucking islam
fuck islam and mohammad bloodsucker
8 Feb 2006 @ 11:00 by amy @188.8.131.52 : STOP TERRORIST!!! go to HELL muslims ...
i hope with this can be stop the terrorist in the world. coz only Jesus Christ is the savior. those moeslims must believe that.God bless
8 Feb 2006 @ 11:30 by lugon @184.108.40.206 : change the subject or else
There was this study on how chimps have policemen (policechimps) who knock both fighter's heads to stop the quarrel. Apparently, if a tribe of such apes has the policemen removed (by nasty researchers) then the tribe disintegrates. I wish I could find the link.
A friend once told me, when we start arguing about a teaspoon then it's time to talk about something else. Maybe something that brings us together, or maybe something neutral. Bloggers unite in changing the subject!
8 Feb 2006 @ 11:50 by jazzolog : Would That Make The Policechimp
a sock monkey?
8 Feb 2006 @ 12:31 by be @220.127.116.11 : comment
The pictures were ridiculous.
Freedom of speech doesn't mean insulting someone's religion.
The prophet peace be upon him is dear to us. And as Muslims, we aren't allowed to meant to draw pictures of other prophets e.g. Jesus, Moses, Abraham, and we are not allowed to disrespect other religions.
8 Feb 2006 @ 21:23 by ming : Police chimps
Yeah, that's what we need.
Maybe this controversy isn't even silly enough. I could imagine some kind of transformative effect if suddenly the warring sides wake up and realize that it was something completely trivial and important they were arguing about. Like some cartoons. But, however ridiculous this was, it maybe wasn't trivial enough. Seems like one side is not ever going to admit to it being trivial.
So, maybe we need to come to the brink of world war for, oh, maybe the order of the flags in front of the U.N., or the colors of Google's logo. Something that will make all warring sides eventually conclude that it was silly, and that maybe they shouldn't fight.
9 Feb 2006 @ 10:41 by jstarrs : I get really serious...
..when people eat boiled eggs with the pointy side up....I mean, how stupid can you get?
9 Feb 2006 @ 12:59 by ercan @18.104.22.168 : islam is the winner,in the end
No problem, in anyway, the winner is the islam.
9 Feb 2006 @ 14:32 by Rick @22.214.171.124 : Virginia Freedom of Religion
Thank you Ming for this blog. I posted this in another area and, upon finding this area, thought it proper to repost here as well.
Political cartoons express political or social messages through caricatures of current events or well established stereotypes. Metaphors, symbols, and satire are tools of the trade.
The meer fact that a message is objectionable to someone is not shocking. That's the point of these things ... to make you think.
That this particular caricature would be considered Blasphamous to Muslims is understandable, in hindsight. (I am now a bit more educated - I couldn't have predicted that before). That this particular caricature would result in protests is understandable. That this particular caricature would result in riots, deaths, and death threats is NOT.
Sorry, that goes over the line separating church and state. It is a line I wish existed throughout the Ummah.
I was raised in Viginia [USA]. James Madison and Thomas Jefferson wrote possibly the finest works on this subject. Madison's Memorial and Remonstrance was written in opposition to a bill, introduced into the General Assembly of Virginia, to levy a general assessment for the support of teachers of religions. The assessment bill was tabled, and in its place the legislature enacted Jefferson's Bill for Religious Liberty.
Please consider reflecting on them ...
Memorial and Remonstrance Against Religious Assessments, James Madison, 1785 http://religiousfreedom.lib.virginia.edu/sacred/madison_m&r_1785.html
The Virginia Act For Establishing Religious Freedom, Thomas Jefferson, 1786 http://religiousfreedom.lib.virginia.edu/sacred/vaact.html
9 Feb 2006 @ 16:32 by Daryl @126.96.36.199 : cartoons
The cartoons were completely ridiculous.
Do you know what is even more ridiculous?
“Defending the prophet should continue worldwide,” Sheik Hassan Nasrallah, the leader of Hezbollah, told the crowd. “Let (U.S. Secretary of State) Condoleezza Rice, (President) Bush and all the tyrants shut up: We are a nation that can’t forgive, be silent or ease up when they insult our prophet and our sacred values.”
Isn't it just like the have nots to blame the haves even if they have nothing whatsoever to do with the controversy! Why are the Americans blamed by the Muslims for the cartoons if they had no part in it? Do Muslims not think for themselves or are they all just sheep, following a "sheik" who has an opinion. How can I become a sheik? Anyone?
9 Feb 2006 @ 16:52 by vibrani : Hmmm
got some cash? Get out into the desert, claim to have a divine vision, tell everyone you're a royal, marry a bunch of wives so you have a harem, and command command command.
13 Feb 2006 @ 06:03 by Muhammad Shahid @188.8.131.52 : Cartoon Controversy
Creating and Publishing insulting cartoons and carricatures of a leader of the time of any nation is immorale. If that nation consider him an all time leader and feel deep attachment with him, it is hundred times immorale, instigative, provocative and furious. At this time of conflict and worldwide controversies when some nations of similar kind trying to capture the economic and stratigic centers of the worrld, it gives ipression that these forces also want to wage war on rligious and cultural norms of the nations to whom they think that these are their opponents. If we wnt to make the world a liveable place we must stop this kind of thinkings and actions.
MuhammaD Shahid Rafi from Pakistan
13 Feb 2006 @ 07:54 by Zarrar @184.108.40.206 : Cartoon Controversy
I agrre with the opinion of Mr. Shahid Rafi of Pakistan that:
Creating and Publishing insulting cartoons and caricatures of a leader of the time of any nation is immoral. If that nation considers him an all time leader and feel deep attachment with him, it is hundred times immoral, instigative, provocative and furious. At this time of conflict and worldwide controversies when some nations of similar kind trying to capture the economic and strategic centers of the world, it gives impression that these forces also want to wage war on religious and cultural norms of the nations to whom they think that these are their opponents. If we want to make the world a livable place we must stop this kind of thinking and actions.
Zarrar Khan of Net News
13 Feb 2006 @ 10:57 by b : You people may think it is immoral
but it is no crime. There is no law in the country where the cartoon was published that forbids it. So it is not wrong to express art freely, even making up an image about Mohammed, Messenger of Allah.
But the reaction of Muslims to being incited over the publishing last Sept 2005 IS a crime. As is destruction of property, threats against life, arson. And collective judgement of mobs against countries and specificaly the country of Denmark. One cartoonist in one newspaper and the whole country is judged and condemned by frenzied Muslim mobs. You Muslims assign blame to the wrong targets and expect not to be punished for your lawlessness. Instead you think that you will do the punishing. Stupid! If ignorance is going to be rewarded, we are in the wrong world. Needed a new civilization indeed.
17 Feb 2006 @ 06:20 by AJ @220.127.116.11 : The reaction....
Ok, we get the picture... some people are seriously pissed with the pictures but the real problem right now is the reaction. Forget the cartoons, what about those trigger happy nutjobs trotting around the place. People dying over what? some friggin cartoon? If muslims in general ( speaking about that population of them who approve of violence ) want to retain their image of being world citizens they should use dialogue no violence........ after the reactions do you really think the cartoonists were that far off???
20 Feb 2006 @ 10:36 by Engr. Tahir @18.104.22.168 : Creation of Blasphemous cartoons
Creation and Publishing of insulting cartoons about any leader of any nation is immorale. Its not a matter of freedom of opinion. Infact Publishing of insulting cartoons is like a terrirest activity, which effect the whole muslim world.Everybody (irrespective of muslium or others)should condemmed and raised his voice against like such activities. Tahir from Pakistan
20 Feb 2006 @ 10:47 by johhnyboy @22.214.171.124 : what? tahir
Sir, let me make a reasonable statement: It is a matter of opinion, thus the expression, "freedom of speech". So, let's not get everybody to band together irrespective of religion to condemn a cartoon. Because sir, it's FUCKING CARTOON! What are you gonna do: ban Bugs Bunny if he's riding a camel, wearing a turban, and carrying a cross. Get a life Tahir! Go to Antartica or something and preach to the penguins. No, don't do that. You'll kill the poor little fellas. Allah knows, they're already an endangered species...
20 Feb 2006 @ 10:56 by johnnyboy @126.96.36.199 : allah must be laughing at you tahir
Cartoons a terrorist activity? I say again, cartoons a terrorist activity? You didn't just try to convince people that cartoons are a terrorist activity, did you? You're a numbskull, dipshit, and a freakin ass donkey eared moron. Yea, let's ban cartoons! That will solve all the problems of the Muslim world!
Look, I'm sorry Muhammad was insulted. But I've seen pictures of Jesus pissing on the Virgin Mary, and I don't want to blow anybody up or ban anything. Now when they try to ban my religion, Christianity, then I'll break out the old deer rifle and go to war. Until then, I'm all about peace and love. Get a sense of humor Tahir, you just might like it. And you might just please Allah. but only Allah knows, so give it a try!
21 Feb 2006 @ 09:12 by A muslim against terror and violence @188.8.131.52 : Who is the Prophet Muhammad(s.a.s)?
The following website is in many languages:
21 Feb 2006 @ 09:13 by A muslim against terror and violence @184.108.40.206 : Who is the Prophet Muhammad(s.a.s)?
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24 Feb 2006 @ 20:10 by Cyrus @18.104.22.168 : To Johnnyboy
"ban Bugs Bunny if he's riding a camel, wearing a turban, and carrying a cross. Get a life Tahir! Go to Antartica or something and preach to the penguins."
Now that's funny.
20 Apr 2006 @ 20:00 by Ian Graham @22.214.171.124 : thoses bloodly cartoons
g'day all i have a few point to make to the writer of the cartoons and to the musliums protesting them
(1) there JUST cartoon claim down
(2) to the writer - why would you do something so stupid i hop you fell the guilt that your drawnings have cause death and damage to people
(3) Musliums protesting - please understand what your bible says before declairing a holly war. it says that "mohumad was once riduialed and he dealt with such manner with love and kindness". so before start a holly war in the name of mohumad remember what the person you r fighting for did and wrote in the first place
- - - - - - god bless all jesus love you
20 Jul 2006 @ 00:25 by Jack the Lad @126.96.36.199 : Oh Bugger
Jesus would like all of you camel jockeys (Muslim Scum) to know that he loves you. I on the other hand abhor you and sincerely hope that your kind are wiped off the face of the earth. Please die soon. Kind Regards,
22 Dec 2006 @ 15:44 by charles @188.8.131.52 : islam
Why should we as American be tolerant of a religion who does not tolerate others? Islam is intolerent towards other faiths and they go as far as jailing or killing non believers in their countries as well as preach hatred towards others, so I see no reason to cut them any slack. Face the facts and stop trying to be PC about it - I say we send them all back to their caves.
23 Dec 2006 @ 00:01 by Ge Zi @184.108.40.206 : same level
there is a very simple answer to your question (even though I realize that your question was more a rhetoric one): because then you would put yourself on the same level as the one you want to distance yourself from.
28 Dec 2006 @ 04:13 by Islam:Religion of Hate @220.127.116.11 : Send em home.
Sending them home would not bring us down to their level. Deporting some one for their intolerant world view is not like cutting some ones head off for being an infidel
These people have no compassion for anything or anyone. They have been murdering each other for 1400 years. There is nothing we can say or do short of converting, allowing them to subjugate us under sharia law, or kill us that will make these animals happy. Quran 9:29. The PC fog that blinds us today is becoming more and more dangerous. If we as Christians, Jews, Buddhist, Hindus, Atheists, Agnostics and Americans do not stand up to this IslamoNazi threat, there will be no more freedom. The Leftists in American will tell you its our fault. The Right will insist Islam means peace. But if your sensible, and smart enough to see thats this war started with Muhammad and his false revelations, then you must do something. We were fine allowing them to maim and murder each other, rape and stone their woman, execute gays, basically treat one another like animals until they brought that shit over here and killed 3000 innocent civilians(not the 1st time they killed Americans http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Beirut_barracks_bombing ) who were just trying to go to work or visit their loving families. Fuck the PC bullshit and start standing up for American values or there will be no more America. Remember, They think God wants us to dead for not believing in him and they will go at any lengths to achieve their goal. Just ask the mothers who send their children off to die with a bomb strapped to their belt. Any rational human being regardless of race, creed or beliefs, as long as you understand the value of life, can see why Islam IS NOT a religion of peace and all it really is is a bunch of horse shit that Muhammad pulled out of his ass so he could conquer nations and have sex with 9 year old girls.
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64:
Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
1 Feb 2007 @ 12:49 by N/A @18.104.22.168 : Disguist
I have just watched, two of the beheading videos, and i just felt sick, when i heard nick berg's screams, it made think how can anyone do that to someone, its fucking terrible, i would rather be shot in the head!!! they must have no guilt or compassion, may Nick Berg and Ken Bigley and the many other victims who have been taking away from life!!! may they rest in peace, and may there families find comfort in that there son and father tormenters be brought to justice, and get 10 fold on what they inflicted on these innocent men!!!
28 Feb 2007 @ 08:55 by Awab wapist @22.214.171.124 : Prophets.
8 Feb 2006 @ 12:31 by be @126.96.36.199 : comment
The pictures were ridiculous.
"Freedom of speech doesn't mean insulting someone's religion.
The prophet peace be upon him is dear to us. And as Muslims, we aren't allowed to meant to draw pictures of other prophets e.g. Jesus, Moses, Abraham, and we are not allowed to disrespect other religions."
So what. Just because you dickheads can't draw prophets doensn't mean we don't have a right too. Who the fuck do you rag heads think u are telling us what to do.
2 May 2007 @ 02:17 by JACKL @188.8.131.52 : RESPONSE TO "BE"
"Be's" comment "and we are not allowed to disrespect other religions. " Is a joke, Islam's premise is...there is only one God but Allah...And all others are to be crushed and persecuted. Read the Koran, I did.
23 May 2007 @ 06:38 by zeinab @184.108.40.206 : world peace
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18 Apr 2008 @ 03:58 by Masoom Javed @220.127.116.11 : Be Gentel
Be gental feelings are every where,whats u ever.Respect others and get respected.
18 Apr 2008 @ 04:04 by Muhammad Ishaque @18.104.22.168 : Live and let live
Live and let live,u only lives for a while and on the dooms day u will b accountable for ur deeds
30 Oct 2008 @ 06:40 by ferdinand @22.214.171.124 : FUCK MUSLIMS!!!
ALLA FUCKBAR AND HIS PROPHET HOMOHAMMAD TO HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
9 Jul 2009 @ 16:40 by L.J.K @126.96.36.199 : Wha?
Let's face it. You're all idiots. On one side we have the muslims, pretty nice people actually, but really need to stop getting so ballistic about these cartoons. Sure, they may be blasphemous, but since tons of western people are dickheads, making riots about this is idiotic since it's just going to make them provoke muslims even more.
Then we have the westeners and non-muslims, i.e americans. Quite a lot of them are all "Yeah, fuck islam, they're all assholes!" That's just retarded. You need empathy, you idiots! Try, all of you, to actually understand each other and stop simply understand why this is happening? Luckily, there are still Americans who have common sense and actually try to compromise, instead of being biased wankers.
In a nutshell: some muslims are actually pretty nice people. Yeah, it's true, believe it or not. I've met some, you idiots. And yes, on the other side, there are plenty of terrorists, extremists and other assholes who are muslim.
But that's the thing. READ THE ACTUAL BLOODY KORAN, YOU RETARDS! (This includes both terrorists and some (only the retarded ones) americans.) It clearly states, in fact it actually emphasises, the mindless killing and slaughtering for the cause of Islam is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. Most of the terrorists haven't actually a clue what the hell they're doing what they're doing for.
And that's pretty much it.
14 Aug 2009 @ 06:07 by Ajax @188.8.131.52 : Shut the fuck up L.J.K
SHUT THE FUCK UP L.J.K.
it's because of people like you that America( and the rest of the fucking world) are down on their knees giving blowjobs to muslims."you're all idiots"...yeah and who the hell made you god,asshole?
analyze this,einstein: why are 9 out of 10 terrorist acts commited by muslims? why are are ALL religious killings done by muslims? why are muslims the ones behing the violent religious protests, ALWAYS?
"some muslims are pretty nice people"....you know what, you're actualy right for a change. SOME are actually very nice normal people.It's just that SOME IN THIS CASE MEANS 1 PERSON IN A MILLION. That's a risk we can take, especially if we want to preserve the rest of the species......enough of this, I say we convene a conference against islam.....everyone joins it: US, Canada(they are pretty fucked up about this too), Europe(they are actually drowning under the muslim tide), Russia( hope), china(hope), India( these guys are actually being bombed more badly than the US.....there's a lot of anger against muslims here..good), australia......and everybody else....we go to war once and for all..let's show those assholes what the free world can to to their "jihad" when it's pissed off..LET'S EXTERMINATE THIS TUMOUR CALLED ISLAM......nuff said.
16 Aug 2009 @ 10:44 by Bob The Builder @184.108.40.206 : ...
Ahh, the retardedness of God bless America.
31 May 2010 @ 06:01 by Noor mohideen @220.127.116.11 : Fuck all anti-Islam & anti-muslims
Fuck you Rob S. Go fuck your father, mother, sisters instead of giving suggestion to us. Are these possible for him? Do they think that we cannot draw cartoons of Jesus and other prophets/ Gods of their religion? How many million of muslims living in the universe, not even a single muslim ever draw a cartoon of Jesus, why because, We are good human being living our life according to the Quran. Not like Danish Pigs, we live a animal life in the world. Fuck All anti-muslims. Who ever support these kind of insults to our prophets, will be like the charcoal in the bottom of hell fire. We all muslim would see this happen in a here after. Dont worry we will teach you "Animals" a good lesson in this world too. All anti-muslims will be destroyed. There is no wonder in saying, Pig eating people have same attitude like PIGs.
I thank all muslims who said their words against this shits.
Nickname: koothanallur Noor Mohideen
29 Sep 2010 @ 11:19 by LJK @18.104.22.168 : What.
Ajax, you ask me who made me God, and then you go on to order all nations to war against Islam? Do you wanna just read over that again? I can't believe you. There are assholes, zealots and idiots in all walks of life. Islam is just the most recent to have found a reason for the few idiots inside it to kill. Remember the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition? And as for the whole "LET'S ALL GO KILL THE MUSLIMS!" thing, that's half of the reason why things like this happen. Idiots like YOU. It's never a good idea to gather so many under the banner of hate.
And, one more point?
If only one in a million Muslims WASN'T a terrorist, America would have been blown to little nuclear snowflakes by now.
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