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 Depleted Uranium, Get the Facts.5 comments
26 May 2005 @ 02:04, by Jose Overalles

I won't take your time with a long winded article full of hot air. Just a link or two to some facts, and by facts, I don't mean the facts you find in your fellow traveler rags

Firstly, here is a definition of depleted.
link exhausted - completely emptied of resources or properties; "impossible to grow tobacco on the exhausted soil"; "the exhausted food sources"; "exhausted oil wells"

As in "The uranium's radioactivity had been depleted"

Secondly, some facts on Uranium link
From this link we learn that
On a scale arranged according to the increasing mass of their nuclei, uranium is the heaviest of all the naturally-occurring elements (Hydrogen is the lightest). Hydrogen will blow about in the air. Uranium, being heavier than lead will not. Well, unless you put wings on it, and flap 'em real hard like.

From same link we also learn that "It occurs in most rocks in concentrations of 2 to 4 parts per million and is as common in the earth's crust as tin, tungsten and molybdenum. It occurs in seawater, and could be recovered from the oceans if prices rose significantly."
That's right, it's always been here, it doesn't originate from some neoconservative stronghold beneath the pentagon. and you'd be more apt to get radiation poisoning from swimming in the ocean, than say, walking through baghdad.

Well, those are facts. This here innner nets a big ol' place, why don't you step outside your fellow traveler sites a bit, and look at the real world? I mean, only if you want, nobody's forcing you.



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26 May 2005 @ 02:22 by jmarc : well.
google needed a little balance. Don't take it personal.  


26 May 2005 @ 05:43 by bushman : lol
Right, when the stuff impacts something it vaporizes, I asure you its much lighter than lead. Fact is, its depleeted to safe levels and is stable within its metal. Its still has low levels, and anyway would you do ok with micro fine lead dust in your lungs? I think not. lol.  


26 May 2005 @ 11:12 by jmarc : the main reason
it is used is because it doesn't vaporize but instead keeps the tip of the missile intact while it goes through armor.. This is the true reason for opposition to this stuff. There is no defense against a missile tipped with it if you're in a tank. Now, say you're a former comunist state selling arms to the last dictators on earth. You're going to want this stuff banned as it makes the equipment you're selling look like shit. And if you've got this great propaganda misinformation juggernaut that is largely out of work due to the demise of your formerly great country, hey, why not use them to try to get this stuff outlawed.
You're more apt to get radiation poisoning out their in the west where they exploded all of those nukes in the 50's and 60's, than you are in Iraq. Or Afghanistan.  



26 May 2005 @ 15:18 by bushman : School of thought.
Months before the Gulf War, the Army's Armament, Munitions, and Chemical Command published the following warning: "Following combat, the condition of the battlefield and the long term health risks to natives [sic] and combat veterans may become issues in the acceptability of the continued use of DU for military applications." The report added that DU has been "linked to cancer when exposures are internal."
Get the facts:
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Quotes from the government's own addmissions to the toxicity of DU munitions:
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26 May 2005 @ 16:28 by jmarc : when exposure is internal
lesson learned. Don't eat depleted uranium. Makes sense.
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Here are some more facts, to combat the hysteria.
depleted uranium exposure

The Facts

* UK Forces have two types of DU ammunition; 120 mm anti-tank rounds (CHARM 3), fired by the Army’s Challenger tanks and 20mm rounds used by the Royal Navy’s PHALANX Close-In Weapon System (a missile defence system).In recent years, a new tungsten round has been developed for the Royal Navy’s close-in weapons system, which does not require anti-armour properties. Since 1996, all replacement ammunition for the Phalanx system has been of the tungsten variety, and by late 2004 the Royal Navy will no longer be using DU in its PHALANX Weapon System.
* The use of DU is neither illegal nor prohibited under any international agreements, including the Geneva Conventions. DU ammunition is not used indiscriminately. An Iraqi proposition to designate DU a weapon of mass destruction was solidly defeated on 25 October 2002 at the United Nations 1st Committee Meeting when 59 countries voted against it.
* DU is almost twice as dense as lead and has the ability to self-sharpen on impact with armour, thus making it ideally suited for use as a kinetic energy anti-armour penetrator. At present, no satisfactory alternative material exists to provide the level of penetration needed to defeat the most modern battle tanks. DU tank munitions will remain part of our arsenal for the foreseeable future because we have a duty to provide our troops with the best available equipment with which to protect them and succeed in conflict.
* There is no reliable scientific or medical evidence to link DU with the ill health of either Gulf or Balkans veterans or people living in these regions. Many independent reports have been produced and researchers continue to consider the battlefield effects of using DU munitions. These reports include work by the Royal Society, the European Commission, the United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP) and the World Health Organisation (WHO). None of these organisations has found a connection between DU exposure and illness, and none has found widespread DU contamination sufficient to impact the health of the general population or deployed personnel. Two Royal Society reports on "The Health Hazards of Depleted Uranium Munitions" (2001, 2002) are particularly informative. They may be studied at: www.royalsoc.ac.uk/du.
* The main trial firings of DU-based tank ammunition from land into the Solway Firth at Kirkcudbright were completed in September 2001. Further firings took place in February 2003 to confirm the performance of the fire control and sighting system of the Challenger II tank. A comprehensive environmental monitoring programme is operated at Kirkcudbright, which includes the marine environment. It has shown that levels of DU provide negligible risk to health.
* On 26 September 2001, MOD set up the independent Depleted Uranium Oversight Board (DUOB), who have now developed a retrospective testing programme for DU in the urine of veterans of the 1990/91 Gulf Conflict and the Balkans operations. The main testing programme is planned to begin later this year. The progress of this project can be monitored on the internet at: www.duob.org.uk.

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