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5 Mar 2005 @ 11:13, by swanny

"Thou Shalt Not War!"
03-05-05, 04:10 am (PDT)
This ....
Is this not one of the 10 commandments?
No it does not say
Thou shalt not war...
But is that not what is implied or
meant by "Thou shalt not Kill"....
Sure we can debate over the sematics
and technicalities....
yet I suspect that the intent of
this commandment was meant to "cover"
or include war.
Sematics yes yes....
If we can not war though how else can
we settle our differences and grievences.
War seems rather decisive and neat, winners
and losers and such. Who wants to get in to
all the grey or gray areas. But it is pretty
black and white though saying thou shalt not kill
or thou shalt not war is pretty black and white too.
What is the penalty of "warring" besides the
"hell" that it is?
hmmmmm It almost seems war and warring and the punishment
of war and warring is war and warring itself.
War and Warring is an act, crime and punishment all and of
and in itself. Maybe that is the reason that we shouldn't war
because War is hell.
There you have it then
Thou shalt not war.... because war is hell.

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5 Mar 2005 @ 22:16 by hgoodgame : And of course
no one wants to comment, right? Right!
Swanny, I agree, war is what we're not supposed to do. It's in the top 10 if heaven is your goal.
Yet, there is the Bhagavad Gita, where it is noble if that is your 'calling', to go to war, it's all just one big drama unfolding, the fallen already fallen, the victor already victorious, so play your part and don't forget what that is when the crush is on.
My guess is it is both, depends on where you put your eyes.
It's hard, isn't it, to see, to have awareness that falls on deaf ears, like, well, now you know, but so what, if no one else can hear you?
Well, now you know, they have to find out for themselves just like you did. Makes the world not one iota less lonely.
"Is that all there is?
If that's all there is, my friends, then let's keep dancing
Let's break out the booze and have a ball
If that's all there is..."
Lyrics by John Parish & Polly Jean Harvey

5 Mar 2005 @ 23:06 by swanny : Thanks Hoody
Thanks hgood
I suppose the "thou shalt" is perhaps a bit heavy handed
though.... None my self included likes to be shalted
on what to do...
so then perhaps "It is not a good idea to war
because war is hell"

Have a listen to the new song at the church of art
its at this link here
Link =

Enjoy and thanks again...  

5 Mar 2005 @ 23:32 by hgoodgame : I couldn't find
the new song, though I found some of yours at the music place, which were good! You may call me Heidi, btw, sir swan. LOL
Is there perhaps another link I missed to the new song you referred to?  

5 Mar 2005 @ 23:36 by swanny : Oh sorry
I forgot PCs don't play midi files
Its the song Day by Day by Godspell
It comes on automatically when you
go to that link but I guess you need
a Quicktime player
Hmmmm thanks I see if I can convert it somehow

Thanks Heidi  

5 Mar 2005 @ 23:44 by swanny : Okay
Converted it to Mp3
you can try it again if you like  

6 Mar 2005 @ 00:30 by hgoodgame : Oh I know that song
and am listening to it right now right here in my Mp_t head, lol. A lovely song from Jesus Christ, Superstar, wasn't it?
My PC does play midi files, but I still am not able to get that particular link to do anything except bring up the picture of the album and the link below to the map. Don't worry, though, as I said, now that I know which song you were referring to, I can hear it words and all thanks to my phonographic memory! Remember this one?

Last night i had the strangest dream
I'd ever dreamed before
I dreamed the world had all agreed
To put an end to war
I dreamed i saw a mighty room
The room was filled with men
And the paper they were signing said
They'd never fight again

And when the papers all were signed
And a million copies made
They all joined hands and bowed their heads
And grateful prayers were prayed
And the people in the streets below
Were dancing round and round
And guns and swords and uniforms
Were scattered on the ground

Last night i had the strangest dream
I ever dreamed before
I dreamed the world had all agreed
To put an end to war
..Simon and Garfunkel..  

6 Mar 2005 @ 00:45 by jerryvest : Thou Shall 'Kill' thy Neighbor...
I'm sure that the average Christian would say: "Onward Christian Soldiers...Let's go off to War...Kill those heathens and put those dope addicts and right wing commies in jail.:)


6 Mar 2005 @ 00:56 by hgoodgame : Who will love a little sparrow?
Who's traveled far and cries for rest?
"not I," said the oak tree,
"I won't share my branches with
No sparrow's nest,
And my blanket of leaves won't warm
Her cold breast."

Who will love a little sparrow
And who will speak a kindly word?
"not I," said the swan,
"the entire idea is utterly absurd,
I'd be laughed at and scorned if the
Other swans heard."
Who will take pity in his heart,
And who will feed a starving sparrow?
"not I," said the golden wheat,
"I would if I could but I cannot I know,
I need all my grain to prosper and grow."

Who will love a little sparrow?
Will no one write her eulogy?
"I will," said the earth,
"for all I've created returns unto me,
From dust were ye made and dust ye shall be."
..Simon and Garfunkel..

I believe that the Smother's Brothers were thrown off the air for doing a segment regarding all the nations religious leaders from around the world, each blessing their soldiers to go off and kill because 'they' were God's chosen. So not just Christians but all, as the prince of the city tells the townsfolk at the end of Romeo and Juliet, ALL, are punished by their narrow-minded fueding. They have lost their best and finest in the process. :(  

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