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19 Jun 2005 @ 19:55, by Vaxen Var

The HU

from The Whirling Dervishes : Being an account of the Sufi order known as the Mevlevis and its founder the poet and mystic Mevlana Jalalúddin Rumi
by Shems Friedlander

"When the Sheik arrives at his post, he bows, sits on the post, and kisses the floor. All the turners sit, and their cloaks are put on them by those who did not turn in the fourth selam. They have returned to their tombs but in an altered state. The Sheik recites the Fathia, the first sura of the Koran, and all the dervishes kiss the floor and rise. The Sheik then sounds a prayer to Mevlana and Shams Tabriz and begins the sound "HU". The dervishes join in sounding the "HU" which is all the names of God in one."

The HU

from The Music of Life
by Hazrat Inayat Khan

The mystery of HU is revealed to the Sufi who journeys through the path of initiation. Truth, the knowledge of God, is called by a Sufi "haqq". If we divide the word "haqq" into two parts, its assonant sounds become "hu ek", HU signifying God or truth and EK in Hindustani meaning one. Both together express one God and one truth. "Haqiqat" in Arabic means the essential truth, "hakim" means master, and "hakim" means knower, all of which words express the essential characteristics of life.

"Aluk" is the sacred word that the "vairagis", the adepts of India, use as their sacred chant. In the word "aluk" are expressed two words: "al" meaning "the," and "haqq", "truth," both words together expressing God the Source from which all comes.

The sound HU becomes limited in the word "ham", for the letter "m" closes the lips. In Hindustani this word expresses limitation because ham means "I" or "we," both of which words signify ego. The word "hamsa" is the sacred word of the yogis which illumines the ego with the light of reality. The word "huma" in the Persian language stands for a fabulous bird. There is a belief that if the "huma" bird sits for a moment on someone's head it is a sign that he will become a king. Its true meaning is that when a person's thoughts so evolve that they break all limitation, then he becomes as a king. It is the limitation of language that it can only describe the Most High as something like a king. It is said in the old traditions that Zoroaster was born of a "huma" tree. This explains the words in the Bible, "Except a man be born of water and the spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God." In the word "huma", "hu" represents spirit, and the word "mah" in Arabic means water. In English the word "human " explains two facts which are characteristic of humanity: "hu" means God and "man" means mind, which word comes from the Sanskrit "mana", mind being the ordinary person. The two words united represent the idea of the God-conscious person; in other words HU, God, is in all things and beings, but it is man by whom He is known. "Human " therefore may be said to mean God-conscious, God-realized, or God-man. The word "hamd" means praise, "hamid", praiseworthy, and "Muhammad", praiseful. The name of the Prophet of Islam was significant of his attitude to God.

"Hur" in Arabic means the beauties of heavens; its real meaning is the expression of heavenly beauty. "Zahur" in Arabic means manifestation, especially that of God in nature. "Ahura Mazda" is the name of God known to the Zoroastrians. The first word, "Ahura", suggests HU, upon which the whole name is built.

All of these examples signify the origin of God in the word HU and the life of God in every thing and being.

"Hayy" in Arabic means everlasting, and "Hayat" means life, both of which words signify the everlasting nature of God. The word "huwal" suggests the idea of omnipresence, and "Huvva" is the origin of the name of Eve, which is symbolic of manifestation. As Adam is symbolic of life, they are named in Sanskrit "Purusha" and "Prakriti".

Jehovah was originally "Yahuva", "ya" suggesting the word "oh" and "hu" but when sound first takes shape on the external plane, it becomes "a". Therefore "alif" or "alpha" is considered to be the first expression of HU, the original word. (pp. 27-29)

Etymology of the Name God

Oddly, the exact history of the word God is unknown. The word God is a relatively new European invention, which was never used in any of the ancient Judaeo-Christian scripture manuscripts that were written in Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek or Latin.

According to the best efforts of linguists and researchers, the root of the present word God is the Sanskrit word hu which means to call upon, invoke, implore.

Nonetheless, it is also interesting to note the similarity to the ancient Persian word for God which is Khoda.

The following is a survey of some of the efforts of those who have been trying to decipher the ancient roots of the word God:

Webster's 1913 Dictionary:

\God\ (g[o^]d), n. [AS. god; akin to OS. & D. god, OHG. got, G. gott, Icel. gu[eth], go[eth], Sw. & Dan. gud, Goth. gup, prob. orig. a p. p. from a root appearing in Skr. h[=u], p. p. h[=u]ta, to call upon, invoke, implore. Cf. 'Goodbye', 'Gospel', 'Gossip'.


Catholic Encyclopedia:

Etymology of the Word "God"

(Anglo-Saxon God; German Gott; akin to Persian khoda; Hindu khooda).

God can variously be defined as:

the proper name of the one Supreme and Infinite Personal Being, the Creator and Ruler of the universe, to whom man owes obedience and worship;
the common or generic name of the several supposed beings to whom, in polytheistic religions, Divine attributes are ascribed and Divine worship rendered;
the name sometimes applied to an idol as the image or dwelling-place of a god.
The root-meaning of the name (from Gothic root gheu; Sanskrit hub or emu, "to invoke or to sacrifice to") is either "the one invoked" or "the one sacrificed to." From different Indo-Germanic roots (div, "to shine" or "give light"; thes in thessasthai "to implore") come the Indo-Iranian deva, Sanskrit dyaus (gen. divas), Latin deus, Greek theos, Irish and Gaelic dia, all of which are generic names; also Greek Zeus (gen. Dios, Latin Jupiter (jovpater), Old Teutonic Tiu or Tiw (surviving in Tuesday), Latin Janus, Diana, and other proper names of pagan deities. The common name most widely used in Semitic occurs as 'el in Hebrew, 'ilu in Babylonian, 'ilah in Arabic, etc.; and though scholars are not agreed on the point, the root-meaning most probably is "the strong or mighty one."


Oxford English Dictionary:

"god (g?d). Also 3-4 godd. [Com. Teut.: OE. god (masc. in sing.; pl. godu, godo neut., godas masc.) corresponds to OFris., OS., Du. god masc., OHG. got, cot (MHG. got, mod.Ger. gott) masc., ON. goð, guð neut. and masc., pl. goð, guð neut. (later Icel. pl. guðir masc.; Sw., Da. gud), Goth. guÞ (masc. in sing.; pl. guÞa, guda neut.). The Goth. and ON. words always follow the neuter declension, though when used in the Christian sense they are syntactically masc. The OTeut. type is therefore *gudom neut., the adoption of the masculine concord being presumably due to the Christian use of the word. The neuter sb., in its original heathen use, would answer rather to L. numen than to L. deus. Another approximate equivalent of deus in OTeut. was *ansu-z (Goth. in latinized pl. form anses, ON. ?ss, OE. Ós- in personal names, ésa genit. pl.); but this seems to have been applied only to the higher deities of the native pantheon, never to foreign gods; and it never came into Christian use.

The ulterior etymology is disputed. Apart from the unlikely hypothesis of adoption from some foreign tongue, the OTeut. *gubom implies as its pre-Teut. type either *ghudho-m or *ghutó-m. The former does not appear to admit of explanation; but the latter would represent the neut. of the passive pple. of a root *gheu-. There are two Aryan roots of the required form (both *glheu, with palatal aspirate): one meaning ‘to invoke’ (Skr. hu), the other ‘to pour, to offer sacrifice’ (Skr. hu, Gr. ??e??, OE. yéotan YETE v.). Hence *glhutó-m has been variously interpreted as ‘what is invoked’ (cf. Skr. puru-huta ‘much-invoked’, an epithet of Indra) and as ‘what is worshipped by sacrifice’ (cf. Skr. hutá, which occurs in the sense ‘sacrificed to’ as well as in that of ‘offered in sacrifice’). Either of these conjectures is fairly plausible, as they both yield a sense practically coincident with the most obvious definition deducible from the actual use of the word, ‘an object of worship’.

Some scholars, accepting the derivation from the root *glheu- to pour, have supposed the etymological sense to be ‘molten image’ (= Gr. ?????), but the assumed development of meaning seems very unlikely.

transcribed from The Oxford English Dictionary

Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary:


\God\ (g[o^]d), n. [AS. god; akin to OS. & D. god, OHG. got, G. gott, Icel. gu[eth], go[eth], Sw. & Dan. gud, Goth. gup, prob. orig. a p. p. from a root appearing in Skr. h[=u], p. p. h[=u]ta, to call upon, invoke, implore. [root]30. Cf. Goodbye, Gospel, Gossip.]

1. A being conceived of as possessing supernatural power, and to be propitiated by sacrifice, worship, etc.; a divinity; a deity; an object of worship; an idol.

He maketh a god, and worshipeth it. --Is. xliv. 15.

The race of Israel . . . bowing lowly down To bestial gods. --Milton.

2. The Supreme Being; the eternal and infinite Spirit, the Creator, and the Sovereign of the universe; Jehovah.


American Heritage Dictionary:


NOUN: 1. God a. A being conceived as the perfect, omnipotent, omniscient originator and ruler of the universe, the principal object of faith and worship in monotheistic religions. b. The force, effect, or a manifestation or aspect of this being. 2. A being of supernatural powers or attributes, believed in and worshiped by a people, especially a male deity thought to control some part of nature or reality. 3. An image of a supernatural being; an idol. 4. One that is worshiped, idealized, or followed: Money was their god. 5. A very handsome man. 6. A powerful ruler or despot.

ETYMOLOGY: Middle English, from Old English. See gheu(): in APPENDIX I


DEFINITION: To call, invoke. Oldest form *heu()-, becoming *gheu()- in centum languages. Suffixed zero-grade form *ghu-to-, “the invoked,” god. a. god, from Old English god, god; b. giddy, from Old English gydig, gidig, possessed, insane, from Germanic *gud-iga-, possessed by a god; c. götterdämmerung, from Old High German got, god. a–c all from Germanic *gudam, god. (Pokorny hau- 413.)


An Additional On-Line Reference:

Word origin: God - Our word god goes back via Germanic to Indo-European, in which a corresponding ancestor form meant “invoked one.” The word’s only surviving non-Germanic relative is Sanskrit hu, invoke the gods, a form which appears in the Rig Veda, most ancient of Hindu scriptures: puru-hutas, “much invoked,” epithet of the rain-and-thunder god Indra. (From READER’S DIGEST, Family Word Finder, page 351) (Originally published by The Reader’s Digest Association, Inc., Pleasantville New York, Montreal; Copyright 1975)

Now if the sources noted above are accurate, then the word that we use for the Supreme Being, God, comes from a very pagan origin. Thus the word god is used generically by many different religions to refer to their deity or “invoked one.”

Some may laugh at the notion, the very idea that the word “God” has any origin or association with Hindu Sanskrit. To illustrate how this is possible, we again quote from ‘Family Word Finder’ on the historical development of our Modern English language:

Page 7, ‘Word Origins’ - “English belongs to the Indo-European family of languages, which consists of about 100 related tongues, all descended from prehistoric language of a pastoral, bronze working, horse breeding people, the Aryans, who inhabited the steppes of Central Asia about 4500 B.C. Scholars refer to their language at this stage as proto-Indo-European, or simply Indo-European.


By Ahmed Hulusi

I would like to draw your attention in this chapter to a significant error that is in the English translations of religious publications as well as the Koran.

As known, the word “HU” in the Koran al-Karim is translated as “O” into Turkish. The pronoun “O” in our language denotes a third being and in this sense there is no difference between masculine, feminine and neuter forms. Regardless of their sexes or liveliness, only the word “O” is employed for the third beings no matter what.

Yet, there are three English equivalents of that Turkish pronoun “O” in translations. “He” for males, “she” for females and “it” for the rest.

We have also been using an incorrect phrase: “God-father!” This word has passed to our language from Christianity. They believe in a God-afar-off in the sky, a male god, who is assumed the father of Isa (Jesus) aleyhessalaam. Yet, as I have tried to explain throughout this book, what is informed through the name “ALLAH” is not a “male-father out-there!”

Let us try to think and realize our essence that is referred by saying “I.”

Let us turn toward the core of a material object and zoom into it, descending to the dimensions of molecules - atoms - neutrons - neutrino - quarks and quanta, gradually. Let us then try our best to imagine the reality at the dimension of particle-waves. Here, all this is a dimensional ascendance or what is known as “Miraj” (Ascension).

The word “HU” in Arabic denotes a “dimensional-beyond” in a sense without quantity and quality!

Consider now the meaning that I’ve mentioned about “HU” and compare it with the meaning of the word “He,” which denotes the third persons in the English language. Moreover, consider the conceptional confusion created by the alteration of the meaning of the word “HU” into what people are used to understand from “He!”

How correct can the truth be approached if the “HU” is understood as a god with a sex while it is intended to mean the “point of ONENESS of universal dimensions?”

How can an understanding of a “male/father god” recognized as the concrete behind the abstract, match with what is in reality free even from the descriptions based on the attributions of limitlessness and infinity?

What's more, this should particularly be understood that…

The universe known as infinite to us is an aspect only “<” made of a single “pin-point” (nokta) in a single “moment” (an)!

It is only an aspect “<” made up from a single “point” in the plane of infinity.

Everything that we refer with the terms “universe” and “universes within the universe” takes part in such an aspect –“<”- only.

Everything that takes part in that aspect “<” and a “pin-point” itself in which they all dwell in, is “HU’s” creating in a single moment only within “HU’s moments”.

We are in a “universe” out of universes, that are created from a single “point” in only one single “moment” within countless “points” of countless “moments.”

What is known as “Insan-i Qamil” (Universal Consciousness) or as “Haqiqat-i Mohammedi” is a being made of such a single “pin-point”!

“POINT,” however, is nothing more than a “witticism” (nukte)!

“HU” is a “wit” at the sight of “points,” while it is the Creator (khaliq) of countless “points”!

“HU” brings to existence all that was created from a “point” within HU's knowledge (ilm), with a stuff of illusion!

“HU” also denotes Who is “GANI” (transcendent) from all that was mentioned...

This is the truth (haqiqat) denoted by the noun “HU” that Muslims are required to realize?

Besides is the idea of a male-god-father denoted through the noun “He” in the translations of the Koran, in which the meaning of the noun “HU” is converted into “He.”

It is extremely difficult for people to understand the Deen-i Islam through Koran translations that seems to refer to a god-afar-off.

If we desire to understand and consciously confirm the Deen-i Islam, we must first of all grasp the meanings that are specified through such words.

La Illaha Ila Al-Lah (The Lah)
Well, Lah Dee Dah!
Blue Toad HU-mas/Christmas
Excalibur D Wences


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19 Jun 2005 @ 21:34 by ankh : :-)

20 Jun 2005 @ 01:43 by astrid : No wonder.... can get a little SPOOOOKY, walking down that lonely Forest road, especially on cold, damp, STORMY Autumn nights, winds howling Huuu-u-u-u-u-u-Hu-u-u-uu!.... and again hu-uu-u-u-u: The very Source of All talking to us in the / through the Wind!
A-d / : )  

20 Jun 2005 @ 23:30 by martha : silent
When I saw the whirling dervishes they did a silent prayer to start and then started their whirling. The only sound I heard was the quiet sound of their leather soft sole shoes against the wooden floor.  

20 Jun 2005 @ 23:36 by ankh : When I saw the Dervishes
they also spun to music they played.  

21 Jun 2005 @ 02:43 by martha : When I saw them
there was no music...just a whirling sound from their robes and shoes. I have read that there is music at some of their peformances but not in Konya. But it was also short notice so maybe their musicians weren't available.  

21 Jun 2005 @ 07:24 by skookum : I only see them
where i see many things

in my head

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The Pentagon's psychic friends network

The Men Who Stare at Goats
By Jon Ronson
Picador, 2004
278 pages; $24

By Michael Shermer
May/June 2005 pp. 60-61 (vol. 61, no. 03) © 2005 Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists

Allison was an attractive Oregonian brunette in a new ageish way, before the new age bloomed in the 1980s. She wore all-natural fibers, flowers in her hair, and nothing on her feet. But what most intrigued me in our year of distance dating were Allison's spiritual gifts. I knew she could see through me metaphorically, but Allison also saw things that she said were not allegorical: body auras, energy chakras, spiritual entities, and light beings. One night she closed the door and turned off the lights in my bathroom and told me to stare into the mirror until my aura appeared. During a drive one evening she pointed out spiritual beings dotting the landscape. I tried to see the world as Allison did, but I couldn't. I was a skeptic, and she was a psychic.



The 'mj05shermer' linkage is broken jazzolog. Thanks for the brief, though.


I don't think so. It worked just now.


Thanks jazzo. Works now. You should check out Ingo Swanns site. You can get there from my blog. It's good that these debunkers have never really gotten the meat; they'd end up swallowing their tongues.

They do serve a great and wonderful purpose though. They keep the riff-raff away.  

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when it was through dispersing the moo from the herd of gnu?
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"Vac also personifies truth and sustains soma, the liquid essence of vision and immortality."

And I wonder just how 'she' "sustains" that Soma? Can our Vac, then, be considered a 'moonshiner?' Should we call the DHS or the IRS or the...

Very nice link, Koravya san. Thankyou. may be of some slight interest to you.


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We work to milk the mu from the guru.  

22 Jun 2005 @ 12:27 by swan : A swan reference...
In hinduism the swan and the goose are interchangeable in myth and legend. It is the Ham sa, "that pair of swans", who depict perfect union. They also portray breath and spirit. Brahma has the swan as an attribute and can have one as his mount. It was the swan that laid the cosmic egg on the waters. Brahma sprang from this Golden Egg.

Blue Toad Christmas...I think this is my favorite title so far :-)  

22 Jun 2005 @ 18:32 by vaxen : It was...
I who shot the Swan, boiled her egg, roasted her, and had a great meal. ;) Yummie! We made a coat for lady Freya from her feathers. ;)  

22 Jun 2005 @ 19:10 by swan : You,

Bu Hu, I don't know what to Du, the swan is now a stu.  

22 Jun 2005 @ 23:31 by vaxen : Husker Du...
would know. Weren't they from down under too?  

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An area where the inhabitants agree, for a government-paid fee, to live without sophisticated services.

It's expensive to provide elaborate services (technical and social); so, what if you designated particular areas of the country and paid people to live there? The payment being less than it would cost to provide the infrastructure that we all expect as part of modern life.

...settlements created by refugees from Northern California after the Great Bay Quake. Literally millions of traumatized fugitives had straggled southward. For years they survived in tents and shanties, dependent on federal handouts .. afraid to enter a building with a solid roof for fear it would crash down and kill them.
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Paid avoidance zones are listed as technovelgy because, far from having no technology, they are sometimes showcases for ecofast building and other techniques that make maximum use of minimum resources.  

23 Jun 2005 @ 08:31 by jazzolog : Are You With Me, Doctor Hu?
Are you really just a shadow
Of the man that I once knew
Are you crazy are you high
Or just an ordinary guy
Have you done all you can do
Are you with me Doctor

Listening for better music at this Log.  

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Mu? Kung Fu Lu Chan Wen Ding Bo Chou Yui Su Moo Goo...
Are you with me Doctor Wu?
Shoene Danke, jazzolog...
Swarm Intelligence/Smart Mobs...  

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