New Civilization News: So there's avian flu in China. And?    
 So there's avian flu in China. And?12 comments
20 Nov 2005 @ 09:25, by Lucas Gonzalez

In my previous article I mentioned avian flu and the possibility of a pandemic. The links are still relevant if you want to take a look there.

Here's an update:

It looks like China is having more flu outbreaks in birds, with a couple of human cases. See details.

A Californian man has created a blog to write about his local community preparation. Knowing the ability of influenza viri to cause silent disease and spread while there are no symptoms, and knowing the inability of a number of governments to do their (our) thing all that well, it looks like it's at least one of the right things to do.

Current statistics are not all that important. The important thing is the unknown: when will a mutated strain start spreading effectively and unstoppably?

Lots of extremely well presented stuff is here if you want to educate yourself. I insist: it's really good stuff. Powerpoint/PDF presentations are nice, easy reading.

C'mon: get a bit anxious, despair at the complexity of the challenge (see the "daunting task" article), then roll up your sleeves!

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20 Nov 2005 @ 11:35 by gea : Guau.
When I saw "There is avian flu in C..." - I thought, No! NOT Canarias! (We´re in Barcelona).
I read everything. Again, thanks for passing on the information.  

20 Nov 2005 @ 11:47 by silviamar : a serious problem
Very useful info in those links, thanks Lucas. And greetings from Asturias!
Gea, there's also a website in Spain about this flu: {link:}  

20 Nov 2005 @ 14:48 by gea : Gracias, Silvia!
Notado. :-)  

20 Nov 2005 @ 18:16 by lugon : plans
At you may or may not find the plan(s) made for the country you happen to live in.

Spain's is here:

UK's is here: -- look under "Department of health" to find the really good stuff.  

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I'll write to you privately, I think.  

20 Nov 2005 @ 23:46 by jobrown : This one rings true to me
Read "all about" the PLANNED Birdflu Pandemic from another perspective! : )

This supports Matthew's Nov 1st Article  

21 Nov 2005 @ 05:30 by silviamar : the perfect soap, sounds well
Thanks for the links, Lugon, sustainable techonology approaches are always interesting.
I'm attending a convention this week and will be back on Saturday. We can try to make the perfect soap when I'm back :-)  

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