|New Civilization News: UFOs, Rainbows and Bare Earth|
4 comments1 Jul 2006 @ 16:27 by bushman : Hmm
Time for a new kind of science, maybe when more people are on the verge of another way to look at it, because they have seen it in the light of what they know and like you a wall has been reached, that will take new and specilized tools to bust thru it, then we get to see whats on the other side.
1 Jul 2006 @ 20:28 by enora : Craig
I can understand you questioning this, especially since you have not seen a UFO, yourself. I have seen UFOs and ETs, and I know many people who have (including scientists), and people who were abducted. We have no doubts about what we've seen.
Like you, I am a CH.T. and also helped people who were abducted. I accept all of these as part of life. It interests me, but it's not something that takes up a good portion of my time and energy. Maybe for you it's about believability and faith? Do you believe what you don't see? Where does it place your own beliefs, and what does all of this mean for humanity...ideas like that, for instance. Discernment is absolutely necessary, but so is trusting your intuition and instinct along with being discerning. If the area still excites you, I think that would indicate your desire to be part of it and keep researching. If not, maybe it's time to shift?
08 July, 2006 CL Note:
Thanks for the comment.
I go through periods where I question everything. I think that its a normal part of the lifecycle of any research endeavor - especially one as on the edge as CE4 research.
I agree that intuition is vital in any such endeavor, and that's what has led me to where I am now. CE4 research certainly does not follow an analytical path... :-)
Note that the last lines in the article are where I turn the corner - the patch of bare earth. If nothing else does it, this gives me the glimmer - the grapes of Tantalus - that keeps me going.
Also, see my next posting for more on the topic...
Thanx again for the comment,
Thanks, Craig. I will. I also posted a couple of my own articles on aliens and changing the extraterrestrial contact/abduction experience. Hope you'll give them a read, as well.
4 Jul 2006 @ 14:38 by ming : Proof
It is a good thing to be skeptical, and question one's assumptions once in a while. Otherwise one might just be fooling oneself, of course.
So, hm, yeah, that's a bit of a problem if there's really no proof. I wouldn't have thought so, but then again, I haven't endeavored to try to assemble it.
It is possible that, by design, or as a fundamental principle, there's no proof. But that would also point to that the phenomena really are something else than what the hypothesis is: i.e. physical vehicles from other planets. If it really is just that there might be people visiting in spaceships once in a while, yes, then there ought to be some physical proof left behind. Some fairly irrefutable stuff, like manufactured materials that would be beyond us to manufacture.
But if we're talking about something very much more advanced, involving beings living in more dimensions than ourselves, it might more turn into a virtual reality kind of game, where they easily, if they wanted, might make deliberately make sure that everything remains mysterious and unproven. I.e. that they're detected, but that there's always something missing from the proof. A sufficiently advanced group might not have any need for accidentally leaving clues behind, and might well be able to doctor the whole environment, including past events, to paint a certain picture. And they'd have plenty of alarms in place, in case you get close, and they'd doctor up reality a little more.
I think it is maybe a little of each. There's got to be somebody, quite physical like us, who has left clues. And the US behind-the-scenes government can't have been so damned effective as to have carried away and hidden all of them, without anybody ever talking. And at the same time, probably several of the agencies involved are quite likely to have advanced techonology that adds us to being able to doctor reality.
But all of that is just (wild) speculation. And what would move things forward would really been some nice hard evidence.
I've had experiences too. And I've met lots of people with experiences, and also worked with them as clients, in hypnosic regression. But still nothing I can prove, and nothing I can even prove to myself is concrete. So, it still ends up being, more or less, speculation.
7 Jul 2006 @ 00:10 by Jodell @184.108.40.206 : Nothing but the Poof!
I am a professional skeptic, I think and feel. The ultimate skeptic is the one that tests his or her own perceptions. I am one of those people who has had astral experiences all of my life. While I was in college, I kept meeting "soulmates" who had various issues with aliens and space technologies. I thought of the world as a reflection of my dreams so I thought that they were being silly or ignorant of their own dream worlds.
Yet, wierd things do happen that are not explainable or repeatable. I grew up as a child understanding deja vu. That was normal. Leaving my body and watching the other kids' bodies sleep was also natural for me. Walking through walls and leviting through the ceiling was also a given. I did not know that my friends would think I was wierd when I began discussing those things in college.
It's funny how I thought that the Aliens and Space Craft were wierd?
However, in the mid-nineties, I starting having the experiences of being taken aboard space crafts, meeting beings who seemed to know me since childhood, and ones who were very interested in my psychic development. I was recenlty on the UFO Panel at the New Living Expo in San Francisco this year.
I agree with you that there is a lot to be skeptical about. The skeptical you are religiously, the closer you will get to the truth. It is out there, or in here as some say. You are only beating your head against the walls of your own imagination. Once you "break on through to the other side" you will notice that nothing in the universe is true or false at any given momentum.
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