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8 comments9 Jul 2006 @ 18:43 by vaxen : Finally!
" Learning is a form of re-membering." ---
9 Jul 2006 @ 19:13 by joda : learning trap
One has to learn what to unlearn. Not only that, one has to learn how to unlearn. To discern what knowledge rips a hole into the web of illusions and what knowledge weaves yet another trap - it requires even more learning.
It seems that high level of abstraction saves us a lot of trouble, but to perform proper complexity reduction one has to...learn. Again :(
So, is there any way to escape 'learning'?
10 Jul 2006 @ 12:40 by heimdall @220.127.116.11 : Forgotten Knowledge
I am currently "playing" with a topological model in which all knowledge can be represented as a huge (probably countably infinite) set of "nodes" which are all connected with each other. Any group can be considered a super-node. Some of these connections represent "common associations" and therefore build very strong chains, some are completely thinned out (blocked, forgotten, ...). In such a system you can easily create self-reinforcing structures, vicious circles, traps, or other "inconsistent" structures that can only survive by exclusion of other areas (but can collapse upon further inspection, leading to key-outs, reality shocks etc.). You can even create triangles "on top" of single nodes and super-nodes.
Now everything that you learn adds some "weight" to certain connections. Sometimes entire "forgotten" structures are thus reactivated, "re-implanted" if you wish. Sometimes the learned material can add too much weight, resulting in "close-minded" fixed ideas, postulates, prejudices, traps, ...
In this model I think the "key" is simply to create an even distribution of all connections which results in freedom of the mind, or ultimate transcendence. But that sounds a bit vague for an isomorphic representation of "reality", doesn't it?
I have no idea whether this makes sense to you, or you might have considered it already a long time ago... in any case I am looking forward to your feedback. :-)
10 Jul 2006 @ 12:53 by mx @18.104.22.168 : topology of knowledge
your description sounds very much like the direction I am going. In the 80's I developed a system called 'ConCur' to that extent, postulationg that 'everything' could be represented in such a 'Concur'. I think therefore, you are on the right track! :-)
13 Jul 2006 @ 08:33 by lucky @22.214.171.124 : like a child
The purity of a child between 3-6 years old sounds like part of your description. One can see the eyes of that child without too much "learning" but with a deep happiness and wisdom. Someone said "Be and live like a child".
21 Jul 2006 @ 22:01 by Ettsem @126.96.36.199 : Response to Forgotten Knowledge
A representation of knowledge with nodes and weightings and interesting topology? Are you talking about the Internet or the brain?
Interesting how that works.
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