| New Civilization News: America The Vindictive |
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7 Aug 2007 @ 00:50 by vaxen : ☻ 7 Aug 2007 @ 01:07 by a-d : See, JAzzo, I personally believe it to be a serious misnomer to even talk about RACES! There are only FOUR RACES on Earth!.... the rest is just mixtures in different proportions of bio-matter which is itself has absolutely NO MEANING AT ALL! It is the Cultural, hence Creative IDENTITY = of each human that carries much more weight.YET even so; MOST WEIGHT IS CARRIED by a person's CONSCIOUSNESS/ Vibration/frequency, which is a 100% COSMIC THING!!! You have ALWAYS all the different vibrations/human consciousness frequencies represented in ALL Bio- Matter and ALL CULTURAL Identities! This is why for instance "Fundamentalists" of one (World)Religion (Psychology) is as far as energy processes goes, almost carbon copies of another World Religion Fundamentalism! The differences from one fundamentalism to another is marginal and almost unfailingly only "skin deep"; about Tradition/al Events that demand Celebration/s-Rituals, particular to the Event; all "Socio History", whether real or fabricated (to build up some Identity to be proud of Ancestors!) Based on my description of frequencies being the determining factor of "likeness" we can see "How and "why" Good People and Bad People , so to speak, are always found in ALL groups of people! LIKE -Mindedness is what will continue to to be the foundation of Community building ever more, for every passing day. At first glance such a community might not appear "made up of One" but indeed they are!... of ONE (given kind of )"Spirit" = consciousness = co-creativity (with Universe; hence also with each other. ) Origin of Country, religion, "race" etc are ( becoming ever more) MUTE POINTS! and THIS is what will be happening in ever wider scale! [link] NO One "race" or Nation or anything of the tangible world, is made up of only one kind; for instance of only "Bad People" while another would be "Only Good Ones"!.... That is a misnomer! Granted, there are groups that have very strong/great nr of one kind within itself and less of the rest. But even from/among these groups the transformation will occur -one person at the time, waking up to REAL Life! ***** Interestingly, I think I am not divulging too much of a confidence to disclose Astrid was born in the Swedish-speaking area of Finland. ---jazzo 7 Aug 2007 @ 03:32 by vaxen : ☺ ◘☻◘ 7 Aug 2007 @ 20:20 by quinty : Dark times Norman Mailer once remarked that a president can set the national mood and tenor during his time in office through the sheer force of his character. And since President Bush has brought out much that is dark in the American character I have been thinking about some of these same issues. So let me approach this from another perspective and put in my two cents worth. (Though I see now it may be a nickel’s worth since it became rather long....) Bush, of course, is Bush. A unique individual. But I don't think the negative aspect of American life he represents is all that unusual. That it has been there, developing, for decades. And may go deep into America's past. It also reflects human nature, which, of course, is the basis for all human behavior. Though abroad it may take on a local character in America it takes on an American character: which makes historical comparisons difficult. The past never quite catches up with the modern. And human nature remains the same while costumes change. We are at war, a war which Americans deeply feel, even though much has been made about how this war doesn’t touch many of us personally. But it is in the air, even if we may not know anyone actually affected. Or fighting abroad. And since the “war on terrorism” began on 9/11 much fear and uncertainty has grown throughout America. Once again we have a powerful “enemy.” Though, true enough, this enemy exists greatly in our imaginations: as exemplified by those who believe “if we don’t fight them there we will have to fight them here.” All this uncertainty is founded upon the reality that terrorists may actually attack us again, inflicting great pain and harm on the nation. That reality is certainly true enough. The American right, though, has made much hay out of it, exploiting it for their own purposes, both psychological and political. For there are many on the right who believe their own fantasies. It is a dark and cruel and “evil” world they perceive indeed. And since we, you and I, may not see the world their way they tell us we are blind. Combine this with a deep nativism, a spirit of combativeness and competition, and a small sense of sharing a “commons” with our neighbors, and we can begin to understand how many Americans see violence as a solution to our problems. “Closure” may be another word for vindictiveness. And there are certainly many Americans who do not see the law as a barrier to blind passion or revenge. That the law’s rules should ideally lead toward fair and just resolutions. After the death penalty was found unconstitutional there was no small number of Americans who wanted to reinstate it. And, following the public will, it has been. The Supreme Court relented. How do politicians respond to rising crime rates? Often enough by simply stiffening the sentences. Which, as we should know, is a very weak response to these large social problems. One which only brushes them off but will make the politicians appear temporarily good. They can boast how tough on crime they are the next time they run. Unfortunately, those who see violence as a solution, may buy it. There is a dark aspect to human nature. In each country and locale it takes on a local character. Here many of us believe in rugged individualism, the free market unfettered by government control, and in the myth that each one of us can make it on his own. But on the other hand there are many millions of Americans who do not truly believe in any of this. My guess is that we are about evenly split at this time. About half the country is sympathetic to the overall economic and social goals George Bush stands for. Republicans, as we can daily see, are firm believers in the “legacy” of Ronald Reagan, which is another fiction of their own devising. But that brand of “conservatism” has deep roots in America. And not even a George Bush, with all his embarrassing failures, can discredit it: for these “conservatives” will come back at critics by saying Bush is merely “incompetent.” That his overall ideals are basically sound but that they were poorly pursued. I think much of Rudolph Giuliani’s appeal is founded upon this hope. We are famous throughout the world for our violence. And we have a certain “Wild West” image, both romantic and cruel. How can any one of us, with any sense of national pride, admit to a European that in the United States there are states (such as Pennsylvania) where a person may enter into a bar drunk brandishing a gun? Where that “right” is firmly protected? And that wife and child beaters in many states are not barred from buying guns? Or that background checks and waiting periods are seen as an infringement on basic rights? That this “right” to keep a gun is more important to many of us than public safety? Then there’s the question of accepting and embracing the irrational. We are flooded with this today. From Christian fundamentalists who believe the Rapture is approaching to those on the right who believe we are engaged in a great war with the Muslim world, all two billion of them. That they hope to establish a caliphate from Islamabad to Cordoba to Detroit? And no matter how rational the rational may be there is no convincing or changing the minds of those faith-driven individuals who believe we are in a holy war against “evil.” Who believe that their reality, because it is their reality, is the sole and only shining reality: all logic be damned. And that patriotically supporting the troops means they should remain in Iraq. Whereas any child could point out to such “patriots” that this form of support only means many more Americans will be killed. And, of course, there is our legacy of racism. Nativism is common to human nature. The Holocaust was, after all, a great ethnic cleansing. One unprecedented in size and in its bureaucratic efficiency. The twentieth century began with the Armenian genocide and ended with genocides in Rwanda and Srebrenica. Today one is taking place in Darfur and the Israelis are performing their own ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians. Tribalism, or a simple greedy need to steel another person’s land and property, seem to run deep in human nature. Sometimes it is called “manifest destiny” or “the white man’s burden.” For of course there’s always a justification. We did it to the Indians: as well as to the Japanese and Chinese and others. We still live with the legacy of African slavery. And those who are “others,” unlike us, if they are powerless, face the danger of some day becoming ostracized: set apart. Racists often hate large cities for their tolerance and urbanity. And the smell of poverty and the ghetto makes those who have it easy candidates for jail. The problems behind poverty and racism may seem too great and large for us to deal with them. When a man knocks over a liquor store the police do not ask if he grew up in poverty and squalor. Sometimes the courts attempt to consider that. But the depths of the sociological roots of crime are so deep they are not often taken into account. It is a lot easier to throw such persons into jail. And when there is no national will to understand or change our world, our society, then prison sentences merely become longer, more jails are built, and most of us hope never to smell or see the squalor in the slum nearby. If you have ever traveled through America you will see much poverty next to much great wealth. Only John Edwards, among the Democrats, appears truly concerned with the issues of poverty. Maybe I’ll vote for him, though I still haven’t made up my mind. 7 Aug 2007 @ 21:34 by vaxen : ♠♠♠ ♠☻♂ 7 Aug 2007 @ 23:29 by Quinty @72.195.137.102 : Marie Antoinette? Calm down Vax. The next time she and I have a party you'll be invited..... 8 Aug 2007 @ 03:22 by vaxen : ♣♣♣ ☺☻|Ö 8 Aug 2007 @ 08:33 by vaxen : ►:) ◘X◘ 8 Aug 2007 @ 09:22 by jazzolog : Pirate Vax And Twopence Paul Aye matey, stow the loot below and take the nun to Vaxen's cabin! (Pronounced by Robert Newton always, for some piratical reason, as "cabbing".) Re: Bush's revived surveillance law---let it be entirely clear to my beloved government security overseers, jazzolog does not know where Vaxen lives. However, if the FBI does come knocking at my door for info on the dastardly Marie Antoinette plot, these 2 guys will be even in my book of fascinating commentators. [link] Quinty and Vaxen aren't really in disagreement during yesterday's exchange I think. Paul has expanded and probably written better on some aspects of the American character that I've mentioned in this entry and thinking about more and more often. We may not have started out as a prison colony exactly, but undoubtedly these shores have attracted a population who, for any number of reasons, couldn't get along where they were before. That money-making schemes and ways to get the better of your neighbor is part of our fabric never should be denied. Vaxen always reminds us of that. However, if the conversation ever boiled down to debate on political/economic systems between Vax and Paul, fur probably would fly. That discussion would involve something like socialism vs. libertarianism, and it is a debate we may hear at full volume during the coming presidential election here. For the time being, there is an uneasy alliance between these 2 philosophies because they have much in common against the enemy in the Executive branch---and the quivering cronies in the Legislative and Judicial. When the Green and Libertarian parties united to fund the 2004 recount in Ohio, I could barely believe my eyes. But eventually the two must square off against each other over the purpose of taxation and the usefulness of government social programs. I happen to be having dinner tonight, for the first time in a couple years, with a fascinating friend of mine whose overachieving curiosity has turned him into both a physician and attorney. (Well, if the truth be told, I think he got sued once by a patient's family and so he became a lawyer.) He's a voting Libertarian I can tell you, unless he's changed his views, and so we may set some guidelines for debate---although I prefer not to discuss politics at the dinner table. 8 Aug 2007 @ 14:45 by vaxen : dz☺ ☻☺☻ 9 Aug 2007 @ 08:11 by jazzolog : The Painter I'll invite the preceding writer to check the title of the illustrating painting again. Gilbert Gaul's work generally depicted scenes of American military involvement during the period of the Civil War and Western "settlement." I do not know the details of his life and therefore can't say whether or not historical figures are shown. Born in New Jersey, he moved to Tennessee when he inherited property there. He appears to have become interested in Native Americans and paints them sympathetically, if not romantically. A short bio is here [link] and these are more of his paintings [link] . I think probably there're 2 g's in "scumbaggian," Vax. :-) "Skills for a global mission: Culture and Language Center’s goal is training airmen to work anywhere "... The American military’s shortcomings in cultural expertise became apparent shortly after the invasion of Afghanistan in 2001, Henk said, and leaders of all the branches began looking at ways to solve the problem. "Chief of Staff Gen. T. Michael Moseley has frequently commented on the need for airmen to be better equipped with language and cultural skills, and he ordered Air University to explore how to incorporate those skills into professional military education. "The Culture and Language Center at Air University stood up last April to undertake that task." [link] 9 Aug 2007 @ 23:21 by quinty : Well when Marie Antoinette and Buffalo Bill Cody meet I'm sure the American taxpayer mother f....ers will gladly foot the bill. That being, I suppose, all of us: you and I included if you happen to be an American of European descent. Since Vax appears to be rather sweeping in his comments. Though by now the guilt must be cross ethnic and interracial since so many backgrounds and races have taken root here. The original landed deed holding natives being screwed by the immense melting pot which fell on their heads. (If you’ll forgive the mixed metaphors? Who made that literary rule anyway?) But I have to be careful what I say for other reasons too. For if I don’t emphasize that the Native Americans were “hurled into the “stinkpits of death’s machinations” Vax will immediately remind us. And he will do so even if I have just emphatically finished saying they were hurled into those stinkpits. But then, Vax may add, what else can you expect from a “scullery rat?” What irks me, frankly, is that I could call a tomato round and red and Vax will then squash the tomato in my face for not seeing it is round and red. Also, the sweeping character and violence of all these generalizations - are we ALL really mother f’ers? Each and everyone one of us personally responsible for the “hideous Americanscumbag nightmare?” Gee, and I thought that being an unabashed basic Bush basher was bad enough? Attempting, however feebly, to understand my land which, somehow, seems attached to our overall human destiny, with its soaring technology. I at least have no real sense of national pride for being “#1.” We are not even #1 in too many important areas: in healthcare, for example, we only rank #27 among all the industrialized “advanced” nations of the world. What’s more, I have always thought I am somewhat immune to jingo pride. Perhaps that’s merely the arrogance of an American, believing one can see, even an American, through the overall bull c.... And hope for better. There are cultures in the world which are superior to ours. To believe your own postage stamp sized tiny neck of the woods, as many people do (and all over the world) is the center of the universe is foolish. And that would be even true of “New York provincials” as Ken Larson once wittily called us. To digress..... A new book was published recently by a “liberal” Harvard sociologist who claims ethnic “diversity” hampers our sense of local “community.” Perhaps the media covering this is being merely superficial once again but I can point out many other reasons why there may be a narrow sense of local community in many towns in America, but not in the abstract. That abstract being that proud generalization firmly behind every vigorously waved flag. But please don’t blame the immigrants for whatever lagging active community life there may be out there. What’s more, the everyday cultural/community many of these immigrants left behind is often superior to ours. Not only did they have it but it was considerably richer. Even third and fourth generation Italians today are sometimes nostalgic for the “old country.” In the great cities of Europe people still walk around - look at what they have to look at! What they have to see and do! These are not cities which were meant for a confined citizenry merely sitting at home watching TV throughout the day because there is nothing else to do: unlike our American suburbs. Where people travel far to get to work or to even buy a bag of groceries. And if they do go out at night it’s often to walk their dog. No, if Americans have a flagging sense of community life don’t blame it on new immigrants arriving here. I see that the Associated Press, via Common Dreams, claims whites are now a minority in 1 out ever 10 US cities. [link] And what if they are? Desiring to keep the world like the one you originally knew as you found it, when you were young, is understandable. But inflicting pain and hurting others to do so is quite selfish and reprehensible: and, unfortunately, all too common. We should all recognize change is inevitable. 10 Aug 2007 @ 01:40 by vaxen : ☺ ☻ 10 Aug 2007 @ 13:31 by jazzolog : The Title, Sir I'm not sure from Vax' comment whether or not he found the title of this entry's painting. I almost always give illustration credit following 3 quotations. That usually renders the credit running across the 2nd page (where these comments are) right under the picture. That is the case here. However, I am aware readers are pressed for time. More than once it has occurred to me at NCN comments sometimes do not reflect comprehension in the slightest. In fact, most of the flame wars in here, according to Mr. Funch, have happened because of verbal misunderstanding. Many people think of me as the NCN grammarian, and I'm proud of it. I once saw 3 million dollars wasted on an industrial assembly line because of a poorly worded memo. So, I will write the painting title again, just so we're all on the--er---same page. It is called The Indian Prisoner. The guy with the feathers stands there like that because he hopes he is prepared for a little good old American interrogation. 10 Aug 2007 @ 15:26 by vaxen : ↓ → 10 Aug 2007 @ 18:12 by jazzolog : Whose Grammar Are You Calling Relative? She's MY relative I'll thank you to remember. Grammar Ada loved me above all others, and died at aged 93. I'll not have her sullied thus! Gee, we used to sing and dance at NCN all the time, remember Vax? Before that bevy of ladies departed en masse? O to mess around with Scotty on such a hot afternoon! A song? How about a sweet Appalachian ditty like My Precious Old Dad? 10 Aug 2007 @ 18:38 by vaxen : ☻♠☻ ☺☺▬☻☻ 10 Aug 2007 @ 19:03 by jazzolog : Into The Bathtub Can we blame him? In this heat, what's a guy to do but climb into a tub full of gin? Actually we're shivering up here with temps in the upper 80s. Gad man, I had to cover the tomatoes! Brrrrr, frosty! Shouldn't we figure this out in Celsius for the rest of the known world? Damned Yanks! Total chauvanist pigs!
Our guy before the press yesterday. 10 Aug 2007 @ 20:29 by vaxen : § § 10 Aug 2007 @ 22:52 by quinty : Not all lawyers (re Vax’s comments) are crooks. I knew one once who worked in a top San Francisco law firm, on Montgomery Street, on turf Vax would love where the American imperium crosses paths with the American emporium. (Or something like that.) This lovely lady (and she was ) was required by her colleagues in this prestigious law firm to cook the billing books by adding numerous imaginary hours. She became so disgusted with this and other similar practices that she finally left the profession entirely, becoming - Yes! - a librarian. As a matter of fact there were other former lawyers, one from Harvard, in my library who left the profession to become librarians, seeking the serene and peaceful life. Ha ha, I can hear Vax cynically laughing. They all belatedly discovered you can’t escape human nature. Not even within the hush of a large public library. But as “idealists” I honored them all, and became friends with the three I knew and worked with. Oh, one more anecdote. The woman I described above eventually went to work at another downtown law firm as its head librarian. But on one condition. That she wouldn't have to have any personal contact with any of the lawyers at all. 11 Aug 2007 @ 00:40 by vaxen : Le Boeuf... is where I'd sometimes eat, down Montgomery Street way. There were lots of little bar cum restaurants where I'd also while the afternoons away meeting pretty young lawyers. The financial district. Your're right, quinty, loved the place. Was working for Aliotto, consulting, getting ghetto kids into job programs (cutting brush etc.,) they absolutely detested. Started a program called 'Job Generation', for the Student League of San Francisco, where Daniel Koshland, president of Levi Strauss and Steven Zellerbach, Crown Zellerbach corporation, initiated me into the wiles of corporate culture. Helped get wayward Brits back into the mainstream and spent a lot of time on Mount Tamalpais meditating. Those were the days for sure. Must be lots different now. I don't hate lawyers at all. I've had some really sharp, nice, cookies---on many a hit team. I like to associate with people who can, at least, think...and I've met quite a few lawyers who've certainly helped save my butt on numerous occasions round the horn, so to speak. I like librarians too. Strange you should mention that...was she a blond, by any chance? Once past the facade they are just human after all... ;) Thanks for the anecdotal reminiscences quinty san. I do miss Montgomery street and the general surround. Close to Washington Square, China Town, and to some really good Phillipino Restaurants where, I presume, one can still order Pansit, Inihau Baboy, and Dinaguang and chase it all down with some beer from Manilla or Asahi from Japan. Yeah, San Francisco is my favorite city in all this dusty old world...now ya got me wantin to pack up my bags and head out west! ;) 11 Aug 2007 @ 01:49 by a-d : Heyy, Vax, be sure to wear some Flowers in your Hair when you arrive there! ; ) I just HAD to! hehehe... *!* 11 Aug 2007 @ 17:22 by quinty : She certainly was a blond, short cropped with dark copper streaks: about five three or four, extremely slender. A grad from Golden Gate Law School. A woman with a great deal of integrity who became genuinely disgusted by any mean and stupid behavior. Who had a conscience. Her name was Sara - could it be possible you may have known her? She left both the law and librarianship entirely and with a guy about ten years younger - whom she eventually married - started buying up houses, fixing them and selling them. Work she loved which provided her with independence. For she was a very independent type who felt confined within an office. And she restored these houses beautifully. There's a former university administrator and full professor here in Providence who does carpentry. Ah to find the work you were meant for, and to be able to to do it and survive. Work which you love. Moloch as capitalism. Capitalism as Moloch. There have been many casualties and some question if nine to five isn't a form of imprisonment? With a boss you hate, it certainly can be. I found Montgomery Street and the Financial District, not to mention Chinatown and North Beach nearby, fascinating. The way the light would sometimes fall on Montgomery, the shadows on the old beautiful buildings (before they were torn down for modern skyscrapers) and the mood it all created. And then there would be the fog as night fell creeping over Nob and Russian Hills. Always delightful. Yes, I loved Filipino food too. There was this hole in the wall on Jackson, just off Kearney, where you could get the most delicious boiled beef for just a buck or two. And then there was the Woey Loey Goy where after the bars closed you could get Chinese style roast pork and rice and cabbage. Delicious. All the Grant Avenue beats, poets, whores, drunks, artists and hustlers hung out there. And what a delight Grant Avenue would be late at night when the street was empty but all the shops were still lit up. This was about thirty years ago before San Francisco became spoiled, full of itself, exhausted and worn from exploitation, overrun with homeless, squalid, expensive, rapacious, and in many ways cold. I still love the city, but it ain’t what it used to be. And ghosts can’t be made to materialize through doors. Sorry Richard to freely reminisce on your site. 12 Aug 2007 @ 05:25 by jazzolog : Welcome To 1929 That's OK Paul, the downfall of a great city is all part of the vindictiveness of our time. The only real trouble is I'm now starving to death for some of that after-hours food...and I don't even know what it is. Have a look at Bryan Zepp's essay this week, then go get a shovel and bury your cash in the back yard---not that it will help. But you might see some shooting stars while you're digging~~~ (warning: strong language in here) The financial game of musical chairs comes to an end (c) Bryan Zepp Jamieson 8/11/07 [link] "If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of our currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and the corporations that will grow up will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered." Well, they did. And while they were at it, they granted corporations permanence, and then the status of humans, with all the constitutional rights and none of the risks and obligations an individual is expected to incur. Since then, the history of the United States has essentially been that of a class warfare, only unlike such struggles in the rest of the world, the struggle has been conducted, not by the proletariat or even the bourgeoisie, but by the monied elite. It’s been going on for some time, (that quote at the top comes, not from Ben Bernancke, but from Thomas Jefferson) and it has a roughly cyclical nature. It led to periodic crisis, because between the unwillingness of most Americans to fight, and the willingness of the power elite to frame themselves as the plucky little freedom fighters, things usually went beyond where a European society would have allowed. In the years leading up to the civil war, for example, slave owners weren’t vicious greedy bastards who desecrated and subjugated human beings for profit; they were a small band of property owners trying to fight off the biggest property grab in American history. The captains of industry who led America into the industrial age were plucky young men who were willing to take chances and had vision, and it was carefully edited out that government cooperation and subsidies reduced the risks, and in the case of the railroads, it was the government that allowed them to use slave labor (Chinese immigrants) and granted them eminent domain pretty much anywhere they pleased. And of course, the government stood by to help out if the courageous visionaries ran into any difficulty. A few years later, it was the same plucky captains of industry who stood resolute against the socialists who wanted to destroy capitalism by breaking apart the conglomerates and trusts. That Republican Teddy Roosevelt was an awful socialist, you know. And so on. The monied elite would ascend, overreach, collapse, and blame it on the people, most of whom humbly accepted such rebukes as their lot. The other day, Tucker (the Fucker) Carlson made the amazing statement to the head of a gay rights group: “You all are doing a pretty lousy job of explaining why gay marriage is a good idea. Your arguments are all revolving around the question of rights. ... Most people hear the word 'rights' and they turn off. That's a 1960's argument and they're sick of it.” That’s right, folks. Rights are passé. And demanding rights is sheer effrontery, and thus your betters are forced to say “no.” In a lot of countries, Tucker would have been dragged out of the studio, beaten and possibly hanged by an angry mob for such a statement. Nor would that type of fate for such a person be reckoned any sort of burden on that society. But in America, a lot of people simple stared at him, morose and hangdog, and agreed that it really wasn’t their place to annoy superior creatures like Tucker with their cringing needs. A sizeable portion of the American public believe they should be servile, and an even better portion believe they should cultivate ignorance, and flabbergast the world with a cheery, “Oh, I don’t waste my beautiful mind thinking about such things.” That was uttered by Barbara Bush, former first lady and mother to Putsch. People shouldn’t worry about anything except paying their bills and pleasing their bosses. Anything else is just class warfare. Power struggles between the haves and the have-nots has been going on since the formation of tribes, and probably before the inhabitants could properly be called homo sapiens. In America, with its peculiar inverted form of class warfare in which the privileged elite are the victims fighting gamely to escape the grinding oppression of the “lucky duckies”– those not of the privileged elite – things tend to go further before it all blows up. In 1932, the country had to go to the abyss of utter collapse before a social revolution erupted. Unemployment was 25%, economic activity was one fifth what it had been four years earlier, hunger and starvation were widespread, and people became, at last, angry. The Republicans went down, gamely insisting that the Depression was the fault of troublemakers in society who were refusing to work, eat or live in buildings who were the cause of the economic collapse. This is all relevant because we’re approaching that point now. We’re in 1929: the economic collapse has already occurred, but it’s just now becoming apparent. We have a government that is in thrall to the monied elite now, just as in 1929, and one that is convinced that the “markets” can fix it themselves. They will never, ever admit that the markets CAUSED the crisis in the first place. As of this morning, government around the world had pumped $323 billion dollars into the markets to try to stop the panic. That included some $90 billion in the US, which is where the panic originated. That is mostly tax dollars from middle-class wage earners, trying to staunch the paper losses of billionaires, which is about as servile as it gets. It isn’t working. Even if the markets restabilize for now, seven million families in America alone are going to lose their homes. The collapsing dollar assures that the inflation that everyone except the government knows is happening will spiral completely out of control. At that point, the stage is set for a more traditional form of class warfare, one not often seen in America, but one which turned a second-rate pauper state in 1932 into the world’s greatest colossus. America has a problem in that the people are taught to be servile and deferential regarding distribution of wealth, and demanding a fair share is dismissed, Tucker Carlson-like, as “class warfare,” considered a nasty thing to be accused of. But the American rich have never learned to avoid their own excesses. They overreach financially, confident the next crash will never come, and of course it does, eventually. They have no sense of noblesse obligé, and are quite willing to steal the capital from the social base that props them up, literally killing the goose that lays the golden eggs. And then they send febrile idiots like Tucker Carlson out to explain to the pipples that they have no right to complain to their betters. Welcome to the next social revolution. Let’s hope it goes as well as the one in 1932. For news feed, [link] For essays (please contribute!) [link] Hey Zepp, I'm not sure these links work. Check 'em? Now, if you need a Princeton economist to tell you pretty much the same thing, here's Krugman on Friday~~~ [link] 12 Aug 2007 @ 12:21 by Sumerian Monkey God @66.156.177.141 : Whiffle: Well duh! "When the people fear the government, you have tyranny. When the government fears the people, you have liberty." - - James Madison “The government’s attitude at all levels is to punish the dutiful citizen’s misdemeanors while ignoring the alien’s felony, on the logic that the former will at least comply while the latter either cannot or will not.” (Victor Davis Hanson, “Mexifornia, Five Years Later.”) "If tyranny comes to America it will be under the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." - - James Madison "America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." - - Abraham Lincoln "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - - Thomas Jefferson (1787) "Only Americans can hurt America." - - Dwight D. Eisenhower "What we need are critical lovers of America - patriots who express their faith in their country by working to improve it." - - Hubert H. Humphrey "If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." - - Tom Paine (1776) "Those who have long enjoyed such privileges as we enjoy forget in time that men have died to win them." - - Franklin D. Roosevelt "Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free." - - Ronald Reagan "Live free or die. Death is not the worst of evils." - - General John Stark (State Motto of New Hampshire) "From the melting pot of life in this free land all men and woman of all nations who come hither emerge as Americans and nothing else. They must have renounced completely and without reserve all allegiance to the land from which they or their forefathers came. And it is a binding duty on every citizen of this country in every important crisis to act solidly with all his fellow Americans, having regard only to the honor and interest of America, treating every other nation purely on its conduct in that crisis, without reference to his ancestral predilections or antipathies. If he does not act, he is false to the teachings and lives of Washington and Lincoln; he is not entitled to any part or lot in our country and he should be sent out of it." - - (Theodore Roosevelt, "The Children of the Crucible" New York, Sept. 9, 1917) The Republic is alive and well for those who know how to take the filters of the supposed "Legislative Democracy" in that 10 square miles wherein the private Corporation known as the UNITED STATES, USA, WE THE PEOPLE, amongst other copyrighted, in Britain, names can be said to be sitting on their asses waiting for the end to come which it most assuredly will. No 'body' who knows the way out of that monsterous tyranny of traitors will ever again pay lip service to the ravening beasts, the rapacious clods, the Kennedies, Bushes, Kerries (Rabies?), Gores, Clintons, etc., et al, nor do they have to...what a facade. Wake up? I could care less if you do or don't...you're done for. Been telling you that for years now take a look at La Raza and tell me you think those people really give a shit for your liberties? Well, you can leave (best course) and start trading in currencies or put your options on the next made to order terrorist event, ha ha ha, or vote...for? Vote? You don't seem to realise that you do NOT vote for the President of the private corporation that has sold you to the highest bidder, in this case---China (also Iraq and RUssia coming in for a cool third) Oh youo will though. Lock and load? Sure...with your sons and daughters under the UN commuists saying they wouldn't mind shooting you, just following orders, and who is to blame? In all fairness the electromagnetic weapons, soft ones, that are being used not only to heat up your atmo-sphere but to fry what's left of your brains are also used to control your very thoughts. Operation Paperclip was so adequately names, then came bluebeam, NorthWoods, Phoenix, Scannate, etc., etc., and there are so many behavior mod proggies going on right now, funded by you, that it makes the head swim. Oh, but you've the Big Brother House to tell you how to socialise and American idol and Britney and yuck ho! Get out while you can. Go to Jersey or Britain or the Virgin Islands (VIrgin?) or the Kun Lun Mountains where, if you're damned lucky, you'll meet me...Kun Luns rival...also known as the Midnight Scholar. Get familiar with the Jou Pu Tuan and Li Po. Might serve you well on that day not so far away when the last American stands at...the Alamo---weeping---Children of the Crucible indeed! What an arrogant f**k! 12 Aug 2007 @ 13:10 by vaxen : ☻☻☻ ☻ 12 Aug 2007 @ 15:13 by a-d : Some GREAT Reading here, Jazzo! Thanks for your very well written 'Comment' "Welcome To 1929" -and the comments following it. Here is an article, I think, all thinking people would have interest in knowing about: [ [link] ] 12 Aug 2007 @ 17:02 by vaxen : ╘╘ ╙☻ 12 Aug 2007 @ 17:02 by quinty : Zepp’s commentary is very well said What the “thinking” and “observing” classes are saying today. Tucker is a moron. I sometimes briefly watch lured by a certain fascination with such carryings on. His mother, I believe, was Gloria Vanderbilt, who, coincidentally, was once an art student of my father’s. The things artists with families to support will stoop to! He charged her a small fortune for her art lessons (he was once a big name after all) which he felt his due since she had no talent and was a pretentious nitwit to boot. Tucker reflects all his class background in his every word and action. From the way he presents himself to such imbecile comments as the one he made on “rights.” I’m sure Yale and Harvard must have rejected him, even if he was a Vanderbilt, for Trinity must have been far too small for his class ego. Class warfare indeed! It’s time we started waging it. But first we have to shake off the notion that we are all “middleclass.” And that liberals, hippies, and lesbians destroyed “family values” with LSD and licentious permissiveness across the land. And that criticizing our corporate masters is merely subversive envy. And that the US government is fundamentally good, fighting “evil” throughout the world. And that empire was something Rome did. And that all big government is socialism and therefore bad, even if it means finally providing universal health care for all. Yes, Richard, exploitation may not have ruined San Francisco, but surely changed its character. And it has lost much. What with tourism and the popular legend the city became full of itself and enormously expensive. Real estate went through the roof. While Market Street, its “main street,” is crawling with druggies and hundreds of homeless, many of them vets with serious mental and emotional problems. When you walk around downtown there is something predatory in the air: in both Union Square (the main shopping district) and the Financial District. The buck rules there, clearly and visibly, and screw you if you have other interests. Tourism has become a major industry, always a sign of decadence. No, though I still love SF I don’t miss it at all. Are any of you familiar with Joe Bageant? Ellen clued me onto a book, “Deer Hunting with Jesus,” by this author/blogger www.joebageant.com which is magnificent. I’m only halfway through but all these issues which are also dealt with above are discussed in a clear and intimate manner (he’s a ‘redneck’ himself) by Bageant. Let me offer a sampling from something I just read..... “Getting a lousy education, then spending a lifetime pitted against your fellow workers in the gladiatorial theater of the free market economy does not make for optimism or open mindedness, both hallmarks of liberalism. It makes for a kind of bleak coarseness and inner degradation that allows working people to accept the American empire’s wars without a blink. “Like most of conservative Winchester, Tom [a childhood buddy of Bageant’s] believes violence can solve foreign political problems. During political discussion around here, it is not uncommon to hear someone talk about the Middle East or some Asian or European country ‘getting out of line’ and ‘needing to be put in its place.’ Any day of the week I can easily show you a hundred people who believe we should bomb France (though I doubt many of them could readily find it on a map). For a certain kind of American, it seems, bombing anyone anywhere helps purge some unarticulated inner rage - rage that the easy truisms that once seemed to lend nobility to the dullest of lives are no longer believable. So long as Americans agreed that they were brave and true and exceptional - people toward whom the entire world looked, for example - and so long as they wrapped themselves in the cloak of that self-anointed goodness, their lives had meaning. No insight required. Just add religious faith. Being an American was something to cherish, something worth defending, preferably on the enemy’s turf.” The book is full of stuff like that. Highly recommended if you want a deep insight with “what’s the matter with Kansas.?” Though Bageant’s workingclass hometown is in Virginia. 12 Aug 2007 @ 17:41 by a-d : Vaxen,vaxen!.... ... I do appreciate your kindness and willingness to be of assistance ALWAYS!... That is "Who" you are; a generous, loving human, who loves to share & help, but you seem to jump into hastened conclusions and you like to THINK for others a liiiittle too much for your own good! : )... I REALLY DO THINK Jazzo'z comment "...1929" and the comments following, yours included, are VERY WORTHWHILE Comments! Don't try to correct me on that one! Please, please, Honey Darling! Take a deep breath and relax, eh? : ) Luvya! And to us all: I really do think that America's greatness still lies ahead of us and is (still) to come!.... but NOT thanks to "White Man's Visit" here!... but for .... well.... U be the Judge!... [link] I have much more on the subject for anyone truly interested to know the (future) TRUTH /the Future and Its Truth!... : ) Peace! 12 Aug 2007 @ 18:46 by vaxen : ♠► ►☻► 13 Aug 2007 @ 16:59 by Quinty @72.195.137.102 : Speaking of America's greatness... The UK's Guardian is reporting the US is number 42 in life expectancy. (This can be found in today's Common Dreams.) And a commentator remarks that Reporters Without Borders ranks the US 52 in world press freedom. (I see no reason not to believe this.) Now, I know. I know. I'm a negative guy with a bad attitude. A mere unabashed Bush basher who "hates America." And surely must gloat over these figures, which, after all, come from "unAmerican" sources. Foreigners most likely. Maybe even the French?!!! But if we could get our heads out of our a..es then maybe things could begin to change around here! 13 Aug 2007 @ 18:32 by Quinty @72.195.137.102 : Yop I began to worry and double checked Reporters Without Frontiers website and they rank the US number 53 (An insignificant error of one) on their Worldwide Press Freedom Index. [link] Now what kind of organization is Reporters Without Frontiers? Are they the independent public spirited honest muck rakiing outfit they appear to be? Their list though is convincing. The Netherlands and Scandinavia being at the top. And the US has most certainly been bottom feeding in recent years with advanced corporitization of the news media: Paris Hilton on CNN and widespread rightwing boilerplate on the radio nationwide. 13 Aug 2007 @ 20:04 by a-d : Here's another way to put forth the "Vindictive"-Idea!... Corporatism being most heavily promoted by American Gov as the Hench-Man ( for those INTERNATIONAL Bankster Gangsters. Read: SELFISH PRICKS)with their GOD at the reigns [link] Americas Greatness will be -and is indeed already- put forth and being spread by the Message broadcasted by Its Natives!...the Ones the "White Man" chose to slaughter to almost extinction to get SPACE ENOUGH to promote this Corporatism that is -ONCE AGAIN- literally choking ALL life into extinction -unless we join hands with America's Natives and DO something very drastic!! See my latest post on my blog right now: " Somewhere Over The Rainbow" and check out the links I gave! Now, does our AWARENESS of our consciousness/CREATIVITY have any greater significance at all to HOW we conduct our lives???? [ [link] ] [ [link] ] klick on the pics -to see them a little "sharper" You guys be the judge! Let me know what you think of the two kinds of pics, aye?! Yesterday I found these two little texts among my "Interesting Thoughts, Worth To Ponder"-collection. To me they both speak the TRUTH: "From the Divine point of view, there is no Buddhism, no Christianity, no Islam, no Judaism; there is only Unity manifested in the multitude! " In other words: we should stop people do atrocities in the "Name" of this religion or that!.... This is what I can't wait for people to start realizing ( the significance of ) this: "you need to break that mental block in your head which prevents you from treating authority figures in a disrespectful way. Once you've done that, the rest is cake. As soon as a majority are able to look a Priest or Mullah or Rabbi or Cop or President in the eye and tell them to fuck off and die, we'll put an end to the misery imposed on us by monotheism. All it takes is a little backbone and determination not to be ruled by fear any longer. In other words, BELIEVE IN YOURSELF, AND YOUR POWER TO CHANGE THE WORLD, instead of fooling yourself into thinking that we can all just get along, because we can't. Not when there are 1.5 billion people on this planet, in control of vast amounts of weapons of mass destruction, whose belief system is completely centered around lying, theft, rape, and genocide. Either we disempower them now by getting politically active and by using aggressive in-your-face tactics which push them into the fringes of society, or they WILL disempower your right to choose, or your children's right to an unmolested brain, in the very near future. It's of the utmost importance that we act BEFORE Cognition altering technologies become a reality, because sticking our head in the sand and tolerating monotheistic ignorance for another generation may well be the last big mistake we ever make." 14 Aug 2007 @ 01:34 by vaxen : White man? Try multinational. Not all the people that 'put' this nation state together were 'White!' The so called 'natives,' cf., the Book of Hopi, were just as bad and, to top matters off, came up from South America to escape their 'warring states' period and destroyed the life out of the people that were here...so called WHITE WO/MEN! This old world has spun the gamut more than one time around, you know. It isn't corporations and bankers, per se, that are the problem but rather corruption in high places! I opt for open source intelligence, a shared world, the end to or at least control of corrupting elements that vie for so called profits. Corrupt Congress and corrupt corporations 'spell' anethema for every body. Stop blaming the 'white man!' There is NO SUCH THING! Want real corruption? Go to Africa! It was corrupt long before Cecil Rhodes got there...check out the history of the Yoruba and enough of mythic idolization of any one of mankinds' many tribes. This site has plenty of real time info invested by real time people of all colors and persuasions. Opt for what is good in humanitys' heart and slowly that which is bad will change. Go here and study, study, study: [link] 15 Aug 2007 @ 16:51 by quinty : White Man beware Hah! I remember this guy (white Jewish and a graduate of Columbia University) who happened to be lower on the overall food chain than me at the SF Public Library one day up and called me "White man." I never became so furious in my life. (Me? After all the fights I fought?) I suppose much of this sweeping blame could be called the modern version of the "white man's burden." But beware of anyone who prefaces his remarks by informing you he is free of "PC." This usually means something racist, sexist, homophobic, or just plain stupid and cruel is on the way. That such delicate advanced “liberal” considerations have had no effect on his his hard headed mind. No liberal PC cliches hindering him from seeing the ancient truths: that gays are fxxxots, blacks nxxxxxs, and Chinese chxxxs. (Fill in your own blank.) Yeah, the ‘injun ain't no more better than the white man, that's for sure. Nor is the black or the yellow. We are all in the same miserable sump. If human nature had been woven by our Creator into a purely friendly, life affirming peace loving joyous and positive nature we wouldn't constantly be looking behind our backs. Or imagining spooks there. And we could stand together against the genuine spirits of the night. The blame spreads far around. We are all smitten. Some of us individually - race, nationality, and ethnic origin aside - may be a little kinder and gentler. But the problem is human, not tribal. As Pogo said: “We have met the enemy and it is us." Put that on the courthouse wall. And please keep the Ten Commandments in your own vault or church’s walls. That is if you happen to be a Christian fundamentalist out for blood? 15 Aug 2007 @ 20:29 by vaxen : Yahu! "If human nature had been woven by our Creator into a purely friendly, life affirming peace loving joyous and positive nature we wouldn't constantly be looking behind our backs. Or imagining spooks there. And we could stand together against the genuine spirits of the night." --- Quinty-mus Maximus I'm awake in a dream! I love that except for the part about our creator. But I'll let that slide quinty san. Pre Clear, Politically Correct, Personal Computer... Hubbard, Politicks and Billy Gates all in one sentence. I can't be all that bad, for a white man with a big schnozz. ;) [link] 15 Aug 2007 @ 20:32 by jazzolog : About Paul Sorry for not being around as much as I'd like. Immense family happenings. An entry to follow about it all. AND, last week-or-so before return-to-the-grindstone. Don't let him fool you: Paul is the whitest Spaniard you ever saw. He even got us a clean tablecloth in Spanish Harlem! ;-) 15 Aug 2007 @ 22:56 by Quinty @72.195.137.102 : Thanks gents... And what are the "spirits of the night?" Disease, hunger, ignorance, natural disasters, pain, storms, earthquakes, hurricanes, tsunamis, early death, sighs (as a poet said) tears and others..... None of which can match what we create for ourselves. 16 Aug 2007 @ 04:07 by a-d : Is this [link] Good News -or is it Bad News. Jazz -or Anybody? 16 Aug 2007 @ 06:41 by vaxen : neti neti "Expect big changes this autumn," he said in comments confirmed by a member of the Japanese royal family. "What you will be seeing is the unwinding of George Bush, senior's 50-year campaign to turn the U.S. into a fascist regime," the secret police agent says. "George Bush senior is now a broken man showing signs of senile dementia," he adds. "They [The illuminati] know their rule is ending but they do not want it to end in an ugly way," the security police source says. and Despite the positive developments, the biggest worry is all the public hints about a new "terrorist attack" on the U.S. to be used as an excuse to trigger martial law. However, such an attack at this time "would fool nobody," the sources said. Many U.S. citizens might be fooled but no other government in the world would believe it. "The secret government knows they cannot use their old tricks anymore." and At the same time, an anti-Rothschild alliance has been formed in Tokyo. They warn that the entire Bush regime was probably set up as a "bad cop" to scare people in the arms of the EU "good cop." They say there may be other surprises, possibly including a fake UFO invasion that Henry Kissinger* hinted at during the 1991 Bilderberg meeting. "We will have to look at least four or five steps ahead in order to keep on top of these people," the alliance says. lots of fun... The anti-Rothschild alliance, (with the discreet backing of the Chinese secret societies), will be contacting leaders of Russia, China, India, the Muslim countries, South America, Africa, etc. to create a global alliance that will demand a new way of running the planet. so there ya go... The world's financial system will also have to be replaced with a more transparent and equitable system that relies on more than simple human greed as the main incentive for transactions. Once this is done, a three-year campaign against the five curses of humanity: war, poverty, environmental destruction, ignorance and disease could be carried out. This could be a test case for replacing the Hegelian system of pitting opposite forces against each other in war with a system for people to compete towards agreed upon peaceful goals. must be the green dragons are finally getting... well, you know... but... secret is secret and secret is not the way- more wielding of hearts and souls for profit- the usa has relied on japanese and chinese- central banks to support the so called war- in iraq and without it i'm sure they'll- just print up some more funny-fiat... money, money, money, it's a rich mans' world. the yakuza do have scalar weapons tech. so witness the recent killer heat- waves across the south... not that they are behind it... oh no. wonder what komeito is up to? they've a huge diet in- the japanese parliament... maybe its' all those chinese babies- that they've been eating for lunch? secrets that aren't secret are not secret... and what is secret anymore? everything is out on the table but... threats and saber rattling can only bring us closer- to the edge of total annihilation-oblivion... sweet dreams of rockets red glare, and bombs bursting in air, and charred human flesh, smells so good in the dump... yum! [link] Do ya know about Fritz? He is in jail on trumped up charges. Gee, I wonder why? And... So; what else is new? Waltzing Matilda, waltzing Matilda...
Sara Silverman. The caption? "Because it's funny when Jews do it." In the scent of gas fumes, Ah! the sun disappears--- American mountain path. OSS RA 17 Aug 2007 @ 07:57 by vaxen : Snap, krackle, pop... “I don’t know what you mean by ‘glory’,” Alice said. Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. “Of course you don’t-- till I tell you. I meant ‘there’s a nice knock-down argument for you!’” “But ‘glory’ doesn’t mean ‘a nice knock-down argument’,” Alice objected. “When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean-- neither more nor less.” “The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.” “The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master-- that’s all.” The Book: [link] The CD: [link] --- More Victories: [link] --- Upholding the Law: [link] --- Order all three: What I need: [link] 17 Aug 2007 @ 22:00 by a-d : FUNNY, FUNNY, FUNNY when JEWS do it!.... [link] More Funny Stuff: [link] [link] [link] [link] [link] /// read this IF you want to truly grasp why Iraq and Iran are such Popular places today!.... [link] to shead some more light into the 6000 year long/THICK darkness! [link] [link] ; In order to understand the POLITICAL GAME of TODAY a little better -and I mean it!! ONLY ONE "religion" promotes -no, DEMANDS- the group to SYSTEMATIC subjucation of all people who don't belong to the group of "CHOSEN Ones" through violence or -the option- : ANNIHILATING them entirely! Now, what kind of religion/PSYCHOLOGY is that?????... aaaahh... very healthy psyche in humans who truly love Life/"G-d" !....Mmmmmm..... Quite FUNNY!!! FUNNY, FUNNY, FUNNY when the Jews do it!...will it continue to be funny the day the -EQUALIZING- repercussion will occur????? You know, as well as I, what the remedy is: EXPOSE ALL the LIES & "Other" "CONCOCTIONS". I wish I knew who stated this: "From the Divine point of view, there is no Buddhism, no Christianity, no Islam; there is only Unity manifested in the multitude! " "you need to break that mental block in your head which prevents you from treating authority figures in a disrespectful way. Once you've done that, the rest is cake. As soon as a majority are able to look a Priest or Mullah or Rabbi or Cop or President in the eye and tell them to f**k off and die, we'll put an end to the misery imposed on us by monotheism. All it takes is a little backbone and determination not to be ruled by fear any longer. In other words, BELIEVE IN YOURSELF, AND YOUR POWER TO CHANGE THE WORLD, instead of fooling yourself into thinking that we can all just get along, because we can't. Not when there are 1.5 billion people on this planet, in control of vast amounts of weapons of mass destruction, whose belief system is completely centered around lying, theft, rape, and genocide. Either we disempower them now by getting politically active and by using aggressive in-your-face tactics which push them into the fringes of society, or they WILL disempower your right to choose, or your children's right to an unmolested brain, in the very near future. It's of the utmost importance that we act BEFORE Cognition altering technologies become a reality, because sticking our head in the sand and tolerating monotheistic ignorance for another generation may well be the last big mistake we ever make." 17 Aug 2007 @ 22:26 by a-d : Got this from Adi today!.... ... leave it to Adi!... : ) [link] ...and this is at the other end of the spectrum... more like: "America The Vindictive" ; ) [ [link] ] 19 Aug 2007 @ 17:34 by vaxen : Yeah... I see jazzo has moved on to more 'fertile' territory. Oh well. Marriage should be between two consenting adults not a certificate from the state claiming ownership of said couple. But, there ya go...people love slavery. Adios chiquita. Schoene Danke Por Le linkage. Engage! Be 'it' so... 19 Aug 2007 @ 18:59 by jazzolog : Yes I was getting a bit thirsty here in the moral desert. Other entries in Social System Design 12 Mar 2008 @ 17:14: The Vital Necessity for Agreement 13 Jun 2007 @ 17:47: Scale of confront, including mechanics of polarization 15 Jul 2006 @ 16:05: Global Assembly Progress Report 2 Jun 2006 @ 14:11: Boring or Specific? 19 Apr 2006 @ 12:52: The Global Social Reality 10 Feb 2006 @ 08:13: The true you 7 Jan 2006 @ 12:57: The Unworkable Practice of Permanent Leadership 5 Jan 2006 @ 14:00: Humanity against the Machine 8 Dec 2005 @ 19:57: 5. REVELATION, the Wrong Reality, AUTOMATIC CONTROLS. 1 Nov 2005 @ 11:03: The Way We Think
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