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16 comments2 Jan 2008 @ 02:02 by bushman : Happy New Year :}
My little Bro Dan, is building one of those sand bag homes while he and his wife and kid live in a big tent, considering its something he never did before, hes got a good start., Although since hes doing it in Hawaii, not such a harsh enviornment to be in a tent in winter. He has this uncanny ability to get what he needs for little or no cost, can you believe it, he got 25, 55gal drums of veg oil to run his generator on for free. This Bro, when he was like 16 told this guy he wished he had a horse, and the guy gave him one right there on the spot, lol then in 2 years he trades the horse for a almost new Moped. Now hes a tire trader/broker, lol.
Anyway, point being, to change the world thought it takes drive and determination to want to make a change, being the roll model for all to see is the best way to do that. Like if these people can find ways to live off the grid then anyone can, and then maybe its just a calling to leave the system behind and do what you think is right, no matter the hardships you must endure. :}
2 Jan 2008 @ 03:10 by swanny : A Vision
Well not sure if its a vision or what it is....
link = http://reddeeralta.googlepages.com/indexagrocenter2007.html
it rather complex and hard to believe or see how it fits together and what it means
Well for lack of a simpler term
I would have to say its a wholistic comprehensive stigmergic global construct with a foundational historic reference to 300 AD that attempts to address the macro and micro realities and problems ie (the global warming of the planet due to the industrialization that started in 1700 with the invention and proliferation of the combustion engine) of the modern and postmodern world and temper them to a more natural or "agro" sentiment or reference, in short thus a "global agrocenter II" apart from the much simpler global agrocenter I one of 300 AD but I wouldn't quote me on it because it is a lot more complex or mysterious or wonderous than a simple soul like me can explain or understand.
but then again I don't know
"The secret to life is enjoying the passage of time"
James Taylor 1990s?
Works for me some times
2 Jan 2008 @ 10:41 by swanny : Internet core?
well Hi and thanks I guess
I suppose in some ways it represents a pictorial representation of the core of the internet and its history and growth as well perhaps as a vision of how the internet might develop or could be and how perhaps too it is kind of how the internet is a gift to the world in the sense of "bringing the world together" in a comprehensive way.
Yet the complexity or verbage of it is somewhat baffling at the same time. I guess then its kind of a "guiding light" or mantra to keep from getting lost in the tremendous amount of info the internet engenders. A way or touchstone to return to that is at first confusing but can serve as a light house or "center" from which to build on to. Hmmmm maybe thats what it is then the "center of the internet. Hmmmmmmm
Interesting....???? The next level of developmental global integration.
2 Jan 2008 @ 16:29 by swanny : 3000 souls
yes the vision
well it was a kind of response to the situation....
I sought look into the grief and sorrow and find the silver lining.... to say goodbye to the old and see the new seed that was born as a phonenix out of it...
The thing is or has a spherical and global sense so out of the collapse
of one perhaps misguided or incomplete construct the formation of a new level or ring on the tree of life that transcended it.
It was a quantum leap for humanity born and pay for by the sacrifice of 3000 innocent or more or less innocent souls.
The souls had to achieve something or the loss would have been total... so perhaps it is not my vision but the vision of those who gave their lives for a new purpose and beginning and way for humanity. In the center you see a cross in a glass pyramid.... It denotes and honors the peak of human experice as found in the spiritual. The manner in which day to day human activity surrounds it suggest that we have access to the spiritual but also to base nature on the perifery. We thus bring the spirit to nature or mitigate between nature and spirit by love law and justice in truth.
The use of the mammal connection is so we do not forget or humble beginnings tied to the class of the mammal/milk class. It honors those creatures as well.
Unfortuneately it is hard to explain in a simple way as it is or tries to be so comprehensive.... more than a million things involved.
anyway thanks for the chance to try to explain and yes the merkabah plays a role.... the true marriage of male and female souls in a relationship of mutual trust joy and love.
2 Jan 2008 @ 22:52 by jazzolog : It's Great
to get a few songs out of Ed while we await the Apocalypse, and of course who could be a better companion around a campfire than Bushman and his bro? It seems much of what needs to be done along these lines is local, and so I've been hearing from people in my area. Some already have neighborhood networks set up and are glad to offer help and advice. I like the attitude that we're doing this to help others rather than just take care of me and mine.
3 Jan 2008 @ 05:13 by vaxen : Some quotes ++
"I have a right to nothing which another has a right to take away." -- Thomas Jefferson to Uriah Forrest, 1787. Papers, 12:477.
"The government is merely a servant -- merely a temporary servant; it cannot be its prerogative to determine what is right and what is wrong, and decide who is a patriot and who isn't. Its function is to obey orders, not originate them..." -- Mark Twain
"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law,' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual."--Thomas Jefferson to Isaac H. Tiffany, 1819
"It's important to realize that whenever you give power to politicians or bureaucrats, it will be used for what they want, not for what you want."-- Harry Browne
"As government grows, its increased power to grant favors or inflict pain attracts more people who would abuse the system." -- John Fund
Number Of Iraqis Slaughtered Since The U.S. Invaded Iraq 1,139,602
The quotes are interesting but the below link is something to think about, jazzolog et al. Apparently quite cost effective with a few different plans. Speaking of local networks...
4 Jan 2008 @ 14:51 by mortimer : dreams are a reflection
Usually our dreams are a reflection of our everyday life. Perhaps your dream signifies that you’re now personaly going through a major spiritual transformation.
5 Jan 2008 @ 10:23 by jazzolog : Dreaming The Everyday
Indeed Mortimer, that always has been true for me, at least of the dreams I remember, big spirit change or no. We had discussed that afternoon those consumers who have shrugged off talk of conservation and have few options for problem-solving except to fight. If people end up on foot, we must expect a visit from some of them eventually. (Are you a fan of both Elmer Fudd and Mortimer Snerd---or do you know who the latter was?)
11 Jan 2008 @ 15:05 by mortimer : Mortimer Snerd?
nope never heard of him. Vaxen started the mortimer fud.
11 Jan 2008 @ 16:21 by jazzolog : Mortimer Snerd & Dick Cheney: Connection
Well, undoubtedly Vax knows who Mortimer Snerd was/is...even though he's too young to have heard him on the radio. The ventriloquist Edgar Bergen created 2 very popular characters. The star was Charlie McCarthy, but Mortimer was more lovable. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Bergen
This particular picture of Mortimer and Edgar is accompanied by an interesting comment~~~
"And here's a scary thought: While reading an Amazon.com review of the book, Vice: Dick Cheney and the Hijacking of the American Presidency, by Lou Dubose and Jake Bernstein, I discovered that Cheney's Secret Service code name is "Edgar" -- referring to Edgar Bergen, the famous ventrioquist who mastered and manipulated his idiotic yokel dummy, Mortimer Snerd (George W. Bush). If that's true, this says it all." http://www.karendecoster.com/blog/archives/002346.html
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