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picture18 Nov 2008 @ 23:51, by Richard Carlson

Ever the same,
unchanged by hue,
cherry blossoms
of my native place.
Spring now has gone.

---Dogen

LIVE the questions now. Perhaps, then, someday far into the future, you will gradually, without even noticing it, live your way into the answer.

---Rainer Maria Rilke

I wish that every human life might be pure transparent freedom.

---Simone De Beauvoir

The author and first wife, The Bronx, autumn 1963

In June of 1963, I was just out of university, didn't have any money left to speak of, hadn't ever held a "real" job in the world, had no set prospects for one, and was getting married. Five years later, that wife and her mother concluded I wasn't really ready to be a married person. A judge in Bridgeport agreed, so they took our 2 kids and went away. But that summer in '63, I felt ready and eager nevertheless. I remember red roses everywhere in full bloom and beautiful.

A job came through, in The Bronx. The principal of the school hired me to teach English to the upper grades at secondary level. In July he called to ask if I could teach some social studies. He knew I had taken courses in a number of fields in college. Frankly I had chosen English finally, because that thesis was the easiest to do. So I said OK. In August, a couple weeks before we were to have moved in our first apartment, the man called again and said the English teacher had decided to stay. Could I teach all social studies? Just married, my first job, I was nervous. I said I'd do it, but I needed the department chairman to get me materials immediately so I could prepare. He said, "You are the department chairman."

Thus did I stride into the wonderful world of love, marriage, and work---at least work in the weedy field of education. But there was much more to learn. In 1963, the New York World's Fair was getting started over at Flushing Meadows in The Queens. Elvis made a movie about it. Part of the place would end up the ball park for a new major league team in New York. Our school decided to take a field trip over to see it. We took the subway, a rather long ride. The principal had decided to come along. When we changed trains in Manhattan, he spotted a beggar at the stop and nonchalantly remarked, "There's one of my former students." I think I said something about government programs to enable the poor to enter the work force. The boss replied, "Oh, so you're a Kennedy pinko."

I remember just where we were when he said that to me, as one does when one's illusions are shattered. I had grown up during the McCarthy era and knew how serious a charge along those lines could be. This guy was kidding just a little bit, but I never had been called anything like that by someone in authority. I didn't tell him this, but the fact was I didn't even support John Kennedy particularly. I had seen him once, in 1960 during his campaign for the presidency, but the voting age wouldn't be lowered for another 10 years...so I couldn't vote and didn't feel particularly committed one way or the other. A professor drove me to wherever it was in Maine that he appeared, and I know we waited forever for him so show up. But there was no doubt about it: the man absolutely radiated charisma.

I had participated in picketing his White House in March of '62. We were protesting his policy of continuing above-ground nuclear bomb testing---or at least I think that's what it was. We were up to our ankles in slush in Washington, and most of us wore beatnik tennis shoes with holes in them back then. Pete Seeger led the march from the Washington Monument to the White House. There we walked up and down, back and forth, had to keep moving. We were freezing as the sleet continued to fall. My fiancee had come along, and this was her first real dip into the world of radical politics. We knew Kennedy was inside, and ultimately a van came down the driveway and a guy in a suit got out. He said the President sent his greetings and wished us well. And here were cups of hot chocolate for everyone. That's how JFK dealt with protest.

Ten years later, Nixon would surround our White House with school buses to "protect" him from ongoing dissent by students. I guess we didn't know how good we had it with Kennedy. When we got back to Bates, where my girl friend and I were in college, she was asked to report on our trip in front of the entire school. I think the people who asked her knew she had been moderately normal up til then, and would be more respected than the rest of us. She accepted, the morning came, and she began her talk. Midway through, she was interrupted by an alarm clock going off. She stopped, and we all looked high up into the rafters of the building to see what was going on. Lowering down, wound around the knob on the back of the windup clock, came a thread, on the end of which was tied a brassiere. The place exploded in hilarity. Dean Zerby walked across the stage, removed the article of female apparel, and her talk continued. I guess the part about Kennedy's gift of hot chocolate was lost to the significance---and brilliance---of the prank.

I took it personally. I don't want to be grandiose, but the fact is my girl friend had been the special pet, before I came along, of the guys who I'm sure had pulled that off. They lived in a particular dorm, were mostly pre-law and business students, and were incubating a new brand of conservatism. The name William F. Buckley was bandied about and that man was declaring something called the Culture War against the "liberal arts." The bra on the alarm clock may have been an opening volley in that war.

The bra and the pinko remark could have tipped me off as to how much and what kind of resistance there was to John Kennedy and to folks thought of as liberals. But it didn't. And I guess most other people weren't on any kind of alert either. No one had tried to kill a president since an attempt made on Truman in 1950. It's true a 73-year-old man had packed some dynamite into his car and was going to ram into Kennedy's car a month after the election, but he changed his mind---and I don't think people even heard about it. No president had been assassinated since McKinley in 1901.

On the morning of November 22nd, I was teaching a class at 11:30 Eastern Standard Time. At about 20 til noon, I happened to glance out the window and I saw everybody in the junior high school across the street was running out of the building. Once out there they weren't really doing anything, just standing, some talking, others looking up at the sky or into blank space. At that point, someone came to my classroom door and announced the President had been shot. I turned on the radio, heard that he was dead, and then we too felt tragedy transform our bodies and being into something new, something we had no idea how to manage.

School was dismissed, students went their way and I went mine, home to my new wife. I guess we heard on WQXR or somewhere that people were congregating at Carnegie Hall, so we got in the car and drove down. Leopold Stokowski came out and conducted a concert with an assembled symphony. We went home and, like everyone, spent that Thanksgiving in front of the TV. But it was only the beginning of the shootings. Malcolm X would be gunned down in 1965, and an attempt made against civil rights leader James Meredith a year later. Martin Luther King was killed in April 1968, and Robert Kennedy two months later.

After that, no American president has gone through his term of office without an assassination attempt. There were threats made against Nixon in 1972 and 1974. Ford survived two in September 1975. A plot against Carter was foiled in 1979. Reagan was wounded in March of '81. A group allegedly employed by Saddam Hussein brought a car bomb into Kuwait where George H.W. Bush was giving a speech in April 1993, 3 months after leaving office. Clinton ordered a missile attack on Baghdad in retaliation. Two attempts were made on Bill Clinton in 1994, including the guy who landed an airplane on the White House lawn. At least two tries were made at George W. Bush.

It's hard to believe there have been 45 years since our bright prince was blown away in the streets of Dallas. All the bullets and bombs have kept us busy. Did we ever take the time to come to terms with tragedy? The ancient Greeks advised there are profound lessons a civilization should learn from it. The world stops and everyone just looks around, stunned, as we did that morning in 1963. One can lash out in rage, as perhaps happened in Viet Nam---and here at home in protest. On 9/11 2001, we went through it again. Maybe it was anger and resentment, instead of the wisdom in tragedy, that brought us to bully the entire world...a world that at first offered only condolence and support. Now, finally, have we learned something? Are we at a new beginning?


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19 Nov 2008 @ 07:33 by vaxen : .
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19 Nov 2008 @ 11:01 by ursula : My memory
I was 11 years old and at school. Our teacher was crying and told us the president had been shot, then she dismissed us for lunch. We waited in line at the cafeteria trying to understand what had happened and what it meant. It was unbelievable - as kids we thought no one would dare harm a president. Who would do this, and why? We were sheltered from violence where we lived. We went back to class after a quiet lunch and our teacher told us the president had died. We were dismissed early that day and went home to a shocked world. The next day we sat at home, mostly quiet, eyes glued to the television. Everything had changed. We now knew evil existed. What would happen to our country, and the world? Nobody knew, but it didn't feel good or right. Sadness, anger, confusion, questions. And then there was LBJ swearing in on the plane. Surreal. Nobody was safe. 2001 showed the same thing about physical safety, the safety of a nation. But that doesn't include the spirit, unless we allow it to.  


19 Nov 2008 @ 18:13 by jazzolog : We Did Know It
Magazines and papers on the Left, like Progressive, were carrying articles well before 1963, complaining about our presence in Indo-China. We were there in assistance to the French, who were being thrown out by the indigenous folk. When the French left and the place was renamed Viet Nam, for some godawful reason we stayed on. Who could figure out a reason...except it was a good launching pad against China? As with many colonial situations, civil war broke out, we were caught in the middle, and opted to oppose Ho Chi Minh. Our "troops" were called advisors by JFK, and they weren't supposed to shoot at anyone. The Left felt all of this was ridiculous and were relentless in opposition.

Then came the cul de sac: an American soldier was wounded and he put in for a Purple Heart. Until then only soldiers in actual combat got that medal. Kennedy had to decide whether an "advisor" qualified. I think it was resolved that advisors could get them too.

If the situation was more serious than all that, and Vax was involved in some sort of commando deal---I suppose that would have been CIA stuff, and our soldiers were there just to cover for shenanigans. Given the operations in Cuba, it wouldn't surprise me if Kennedy didn't know the full story. I'm convinced Eisenhower didn't know what was going on in the name of his own government---and things only could have gotten worse. The Military/Industrial Complex speech came much too late.

Rusyn's perception of evil in the world was an advanced vision. Most of us young adults didn't think it was that bad. Craziness yes, and of course conspiracy theories emerged immediately. We still had trust though, and so believed the Warren Commission would figure it out. The Kennedy government had encouraged personal and individual involvement. The idea of the Peace Corps was thrilling. It's amazing how the evolution into bitterness and despair has proceeded in these 45 years...but completely understandable. Obama wants to be the President who turns that around---and I must say, as so many have, the feeling in the midst of the rallies does feel like those old days.  



19 Nov 2008 @ 18:36 by ursula : I wasn't so naive
to think that there was nothing wrong or bad in the world, though. I knew about the Holocaust and visited other countries and saw extreme poverty, I also saw old movies. But, the JFK assassination brought it all home, to America, and we thought we were immune from it in our time. Everything seemed to be going so well, and then...  


19 Nov 2008 @ 20:45 by quinty : Beautiful piece
Jazzo......

My quibble is with the next to the last line. "Running" the world is an old imperial idea. We, of course, would do it for the world's good. Aren't we, after all, the people who liberated Europe? Brought the Soviet Union to its knees? The benefactor and model the rest of the world envies?

We live by many myths. The Neocons were looking for an excuse to establish American hegemony in the middle east. How many military bases do we have all over the world? I forget the number, but it's in the hundreds. What is our so-called "defense" budget now? The figure keeps shifting. Even if it is only 500 billion it remains far more than what is needed for national "defense." It is, in truth, a war budget.

All empires have always seen themselves as “benefactors.” Accepting the “white man’s burden,” spreading religion, bringing civilization (with the sword?) to the “undeveloped” world, on and on. That is one lie that hasn’t been buried yet in the United States.

Will Obama do it? I think that is hoping too much. But if he does, then he will take a place alongside Roosevelt and Lincoln.  



19 Nov 2008 @ 20:57 by quinty : Much to my disgrace
I was late in opposing the Vietnam War.

No matter what's going on there always intelligent people who see through the lies. They're often in the minority, though a large one spoke up against the Iraq War as it approached. Our "establishment" supported it much as the "establishment| has always supported American military adventures. We make that mistake over and over again. "The troops will be home by Christmas." (How many times has that one been said, including Iraq?) We are there for a just cause - fill in the blank. Our national security is at stake - well, yeah, economic perhaps, benefiting who?

Now Obama appears to be preparing to get in deeper in Afghanistan. We have been there seven years now and are actually losing ground. Will escalation work (how many times have we heard that one too?) or will Afghanistan be, as some pundits have said, Obama's tomb?  



19 Nov 2008 @ 22:05 by quinty : Maybe some fools
who wanted to escalate in Vietnam were like me. They believed in the "domino theory." And bound by Cold War logic believed they had to "contain" Communism. What's more, the idea that little guys in black pajamas could whump the most powerful military on Earth was commonly accepted as wild fancy.

We apparently didn't learn our lesson: not regarding Iraq at least. And this latest folly has interestingly exposed many rightwingers who still believe we should never have "lost" in Vietnam.

Well, yeahhhhh, we could have won. If we had bombed the bejeezus out of Vietnam and turned it into a parking lot we could have won. But who really believes, even to save American face, that would have been worth it?

Apparently some VFW and American Legion gung ho types like John McCain do.  



20 Nov 2008 @ 00:33 by ursula : forget it
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20 Nov 2008 @ 03:56 by vaxen : .
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20 Nov 2008 @ 10:58 by jazzolog : Wow!
When Vax pours it out like this, he cannot be surpassed. Merchants and druglords go back a long way, hand in hand. And what haven't we done to protect their trade routes? I suppose all civilizations have been the same about getting and spending---and tribes too. Thank you for tying it all together.

I wasn't in touch with Quinty during his military period, and never talked about it with him. I heard rumors though, but couldn't conceive what in the world could be going on with him. Here was a guy the FBI came to visit me about regarding his conscientious objection to shooting one's enemies with guns. Thanks for writing about it here, buddy.

I don't speak for any teeny segment of the minority of my generation that protested stuff. But I don't look upon us and myself as having been naive. We called it idealistic. Now there's a term I haven't heard in years! Believe it or not, there is a strong philosophic history for idealism. I wonder if it would be good for me to look some of that stuff up now and read it again.  



20 Nov 2008 @ 18:51 by vaxen : .
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21 Nov 2008 @ 16:36 by jazzolog : The Enraged Stinkbug And His Vice Prez
A final shot in the dark hours~~~

 



21 Nov 2008 @ 21:38 by vaxen : .
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22 Nov 2008 @ 11:10 by jazzolog : This Day
It was about 12:30 p.m. on this day in 1963 that President John F. Kennedy was fatally shot while riding in a motorcade in Dallas, Texas. The Warren Commission published a report concluding that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone in shooting the president, a conclusion that less than half of all Americans believe. Don DeLillo wrote the novel Libra (1988) about the Kennedy assassination, and he wrote, "What has become unraveled since that afternoon in Dallas is ... the sense of a coherent reality most of us shared. We seem from that moment to have entered a world of randomness and ambiguity."
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22 Nov 2008 @ 15:30 by a-d : This day....
1963.... I remember it as if it was "Yesterday"... and we, anyone of us, old enough to be out of our diapers, remember where we were, what we were doing, whom we had around us etc, that Fateful day, when the World (at large) lost its Innocence...  


22 Nov 2008 @ 19:11 by vaxen : .
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22 Nov 2008 @ 20:26 by vaxen : .
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23 Nov 2008 @ 15:16 by vaxen : Ad hominem...
the ad hominem. Google U? The Democrats have NEVER been the 'protectors' of anything but their fat wallets and big government spending at lemming taxpayers expense. Not ever! Same goes for the repomen, ah - republicans. The party of one is a two faced spawn of the hydra.

Edutainment has created what with all it's much lauded impeccable credentials? Poverty in abundance both of mind and body for countless 'unwashed' and useless eaters.

In a hundred years what use your Harvard degree? What use your MIT? Will you be around to gnaw at the root?

Growing older, I love only quietness:
who needs be concerned with the things of this world?
Looking back, what better plan than this:
returning to the grove.

---Li Po

Now clickable: [link]

Sig heil to the one world order. Instead of Saddam Hussein we'll have Barack Hussein being controlled from on high. The remains will be the same, though. The Opium triads grin, the bear dances, the eagle crows. It's a brand new day for Henry Mueller as the sun shines down on the tinted town of gathered gloom and leaves of brown...

Where night winds howl through the churchyard gate and all the dreams of shadowland wait.  



23 Nov 2008 @ 16:11 by quinty : To the lover of quietness.....

I detected the blood rise for an instant as you took your swipe at teachers. Perhaps it had a copper taste on the lips, offering the thrill of a rush of audacious power to intoxicate you for that instant?

Now, now Vax. Asking you to be nice is as futile as applying reason to the snarling barking dog next door. You can't merely go up to the dog as it snaps and growls and jumps at the fence and reasonably ask it to quiet down, take it easy, or, most of all, ask it to simply respect its neighbors. It's just not in the nature of a dog to behave reasonably or civilly like that, no more than it is in yours.

So you appear and you make noise and you insult here and insult there and bark and cry and howl up at the moon. And the more commotion you create the more you like it because there is nothing, absolutely nothing, anyone can do. It must all be the copper in your blood which feels so warm and good, leaving a nice proud taste, adding the red in your eyes.

So the lips snarl open, the teeth drip foam, and out come the words: “Treasonous dupes! Scum! Blind ignorant fools!......” And you wonder why anyone recoils?  



23 Nov 2008 @ 23:41 by vaxen : Hope...
``Needed social reassessment [link] . . . can be encouraged by deliberate civic education that stresses the notion of service to a higher cause than oneself. As some have occasionally urged, a major step in that direction would be the adoption of an obligatory period of national service for every young adult, perhaps involving a variety of congressionally approved domestic or foreign good works." - Zbigniew Brzezinsky

Barack Obama
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The Naked Emperor
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Now where have I heard that before?

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24 Nov 2008 @ 16:26 by Quinty @68.9.133.5 : Into
Holocaust denying too, Vax?

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24 Nov 2008 @ 20:07 by vaxen : Of course,
Quintibus, don't you? The holocaust industry is big business. I favor small business such as 'small arms' business. The Red Cross has the real numbers. I suggest you check them out.

But watch out for when your mythos begins to crumble and you speak about it to your friends then will come the thought police to get you and take you to the new gestapo's headquarters to silence your inquisitive mind once and for all! (And the thought police this time around are ... Jewish!)

You couldn't handle the truth if you wanted to Quintybus... Toben was freed. That's a step forward. Someday the truth will be known by all and no amount of lobbying will prevent it. So gloat on whilst ye may...haberdasher.

"If we don't believe in freedom of expression for
people we despise, we don't believe in it at all."
-Noam Chomsky  



24 Nov 2008 @ 21:25 by Quinty @68.9.133.5 : Well, there's more

How's 'bout this on that same site?

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For those of you who would like to swap tales about UFO abductions,sightings, picnics, jaunts, mighty drunks, space flights, hotels, spas, travel tips and vacation destinations......  



25 Nov 2008 @ 01:28 by a-d : We all know....
...that President John F.Kennedy was murdered ("assasinated) right in front of our eyes--and three more people were hit by a bullet --or was it indeed by just one --and the same bullet??!!?!?!?...as the OFFICIAL ; Warren Commission would have you to believe!...
45 years down the road still big bruhaaa "how" it all happened. We are ALL expected to be "Good Citizens" and (so to speak) "buy" -as in "swallow the OFFICIAL Story and shut up and stop questioning!... ("How DARE you question "The Official Theory"?!?) [link]
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google more if you feel for more "entertainment"!

Who here is ready to buy /swallow hooks, baits n' all this One Bullet Theory/ Story? Quinty??? Anybody (else? ;) .... )

Wise Men have always known a little of this n'that about the "nature" of the most power hungry control needy Pillars of the "Establishment"/Mainstream part of the World... that is why they so often made the point: QUESTION EVERYTHING!!!  



25 Nov 2008 @ 06:50 by vaxen : .
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25 Nov 2008 @ 08:52 by jazzolog : $7.7 Trillion Genie Out Of The Bottle
"The convention which framed the Constitution of the United States was composed of fifty-five members. A majority were lawyers not one farmer, mechanic or laborer. Forty owned Revolutionary Scrip. Fourteen were land speculators. Twenty-four were money-lenders. Eleven were merchants. Fifteen were slave-holders. They made a Constitution to protect the rights of property and not the rights of man."

: Senator Richard Pettigrew - Triumphant Plutocracy (1922)

Auto makers and union guys sent packing, with demand for a "plan" (hybrids, electric cars coming down the line not a plan?) and complaint about corporate jets. Citigroup walks in Friday evening and leaves with a check. Did they even have to appear in Washington? If so, anybody wonder if they took public transportation?

Is America shocked or stunned at the nature of the financial bailout? It seems most people seem to oppose it or aspects of it. But the noise of protest isn't very loud. Are banks really more important than manufacturing?  



25 Nov 2008 @ 17:04 by vaxen : .
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25 Nov 2008 @ 19:38 by a-d : The last Seventy Years....
that's how it's been!...."....just turn the other cheek. Once they smack that too, you'll be down for the count...." [link]
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This is just one of the many videos where you can CLEARLY see from what DIRECTION the bullet is coming / hitting President Kennedy: ROM THE FRONT!!! (Warren Commission has it that it came from behind!...(
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Interested in knowing ANY BITS of the REAL TRUTH behind the murder of JFK???
A stunning example: from www.naturalmoney.org
In the past, money systems without interest on a small scale existed in various forms, with varying success. They still exist today. The success of natural money will depend heavily on the rules of the system. The most stunning success story is the Wörgl currency.

On July 5th 1932, in the middle of the Great Depression, the Austrian town of Wörgl made economic history by introducing a remarkable complimentary currency. Wörgl was in trouble, and was prepared to try anything. Of its population of 4,500, a total of 1,500 people were without a job, and 200 families were penniless. The mayor, Michael Unterguggenberger, had a long list of projects he wanted to accomplish, but there was hardly any money with which to carry them out. These included repaving the roads, streetlights, extending water distribution across the whole town, and planting trees along the streets.

Rather than spending the 40,000 Austrian schillings in the town’s coffers to start these projects off, he deposited them in a local savings bank as a guarantee to back the issue of a type of complimentary currency known as 'stamp scrip'. This requires a monthly stamp to be stuck on all the circulating notes for them to remain valid, and in Wörgl, the stamp amounted 1% of the each note’s value. The money raised was used to run a soup kitchen that fed 220 families.

Because nobody wanted to pay what was effectively a hoarding fee, everyone receiving the notes would spend them as fast as possible. The 40,000 schilling deposit allowed anyone to exchange scrip for 98 per cent of its value in schillings. This offer was rarely taken up though.

Of all the business in town, only the railway station and the post office refused to accept the local money. When people ran out of spending ideas, they would pay their taxes early using scrip, resulting in a huge increase in town revenues. Over the 13-month period the project ran, the council not only carried out all the intended works projects, but also built new houses, a reservoir, a ski jump, and a bridge. The people also used scrip to replant forests, in anticipation of the future cash flow they would receive from the trees.

The key to its success was the fast circulation of scrip within the local economy, 14 times higher than the schilling. This in turn increased trade, creating extra employment. At the time of the project, Wörgl was the only Austrian town to achieve full employment.

Six neighbouring villages copied the system successfully. The French Prime Minister, Eduoard Dalladier, made a special visit to see the 'miracle of Wörgl'. In January 1933, the project was replicated in the neighbouring city of Kirchbuhl, and in June 1933, Unterguggenburger addressed a meeting with representatives from 170 different towns and villages. Two hundred Austrian townships were interested in adopting the idea.

At this point, the central bank panicked, and decided to assert its monopoly rights by banning complimentary currencies. The people unsuccessfully sued the bank, and later lost in the Austrian Supreme Court. It then became a criminal offence to issue 'emergency currency'.

Unterguggenberger was opposed to both communism and fascism, championing instead what he referred to as 'economic freedom'. Therefore, it was deeply ironic that the Wörgl experiment was first branded 'craziness' by the monetary authorities, then a communist idea, and some years later as a fascist one.

The town went back to 30% unemployment. In 1934, social unrest exploded across Austria. In 1938, when Hitler annexed Austria, he was welcomed by many people as their economic and political saviour.
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'You' would be a fool not to read the rest of the story!...^L^

Rest In Peace,President John F.Kennedy; the most decent of all Presidents!

BTW.... did you know that the Koran forbids USURY!!!

Last, but not least some words of Wisdom by President John F Kennedy:
"The greater our knowledge increases the more our ignorance unfolds."

John F. Kennedy. from [link]  



26 Nov 2008 @ 05:01 by a-d : Nov 22;nd 2008; 45 years after....
the most decent and "regular" People-supporting- President (with actual People and Nation Supporting actions taken while in Office) was shot because of these actions that would have helped not only America and all its people --but the entire World Population-- to a better life (even) TODAY was remembered honored and in the best possible way, me thinks.
In 39 cities around the Nation "End The Fed" rallies were held! GOOD GOING, all you Brave people of/in America, who had the guts to step up and DO SOMETHING to wake up people --not just here-- but all over the World, with these rallies.
What better way to honor Kennedy's Memory than do something supportive of the Cause for what he paid the ultimate price.
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26 Nov 2008 @ 08:54 by vaxen : .
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26 Nov 2008 @ 19:34 by a-d : Yeahhh!... : )
The very best Hanging Rope we can give them is Love & Light of the highest possible vibration, we can muster.When people are "bombarded" with this Love & Light frequency, they HAVE TO go through the Confrontation that comes with it in ONE WAY or THE OTHER: either they they accept to have a genuine Change of Heart -or they will refuse the accountability; to do the whole repentance & amend deal, that comes with it. But they can do so ONLY AT their OWN PERIL!... THIS is where the Win-Win (for ALL involved) is "hiding"!
Yeaahhh...
I can see "how" & "why" many of the crooks will choose to hang themselves rather than have a Change of Heart. But, hey, to each their own. ;)  



29 Nov 2008 @ 19:31 by quinty : Obama has repeatedly said
that he will set the policy and that his team will implement it: which is to pull out. What's more, Iraq has given the US a timetable to get out. Fortunately for us if the US stays we will be unwelcome guests. That lack of welcome may weaken the rightwing's certain howls of "surrender" and "treason" and will provide the Democrats with some political cover. But we'll see.

One of Kennedy's strengths was that he was a quick learner and willing to take the heat for his mistakes. (Something, tragically, LBJ was unable to do.) And there have been those in his administration who claimed he would have pulled out of Vietnam. The Cuban missile crisis really sobered him up and he began to move away in earnest from the Cold War view of the world of the fifties. But we will never truly know, will we?  



30 Nov 2008 @ 09:38 by jazzolog : Keep Your Chin Up And Eyes On The Sky
If evening skies have been clear wherever you are around the world, surely you've noticed this dance following sundown~~~



This particular view of Jupiter and Venus was taken on a mountaintop in Chile, probably a week ago. What's fascinating about it is you actually can look across the Milky Way just above the horizon, even with so much light from the setting sun. Also look at that meteor the camera happened to catch. Friday night the 2 planets were lined up one above the other. Last night you might have seen that sliver of a moon setting early on. By Monday night the moon will have joined the dance.  



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