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10 Dec 2004 @ 09:42, by swanny

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When I was attending a Presbyterian seminary, in training to becoming an ordained minister, I learned that, during the 300 years following the death of Jesus, the early Roman Church carried out considerable research to choose which of the many religious writings, which were available, to include in the canon the church was assemblying. They included the Old Testament, whose writings portray a perception of an angry, jealous, vengeful, judging and punishing God, which are quite at variance with the loving God portrayed in the New Testament. They also included a Book of Apocrypha, which has since been omitted in our modern versions of the early Roman canon, which we now call the Holy Bible.

It is historical fact that neither God nor Jesus directly contributed any writings to the Bible. All of the writings in the Bible were created, edited and interpreted by men (no women!). Many of these men were inspired and created very inspiring writings, but the writings for the New Testament were translated, interpreted and edited by the early church authorities into the ancient language of Attica, from whence they were again translated, interpreted and edited into Latin and other languages. The Bible can be a powerfully inspiring source of good for the benefit of humankind, but, depending on who is doing the translating, interpretation and editing, it can also be a powerfully inspiring source of evil for the detriment of humankind (for example, www.raptureready.com ).

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Thankyou for this Sir Mindlink
It just bespeaks for the troubling questions religion faces in our time yet it even the piece I contributed offers hope but does not come right out and say what is needed.
It strikes me that the great need then for religion is a Global Holy Bible or Conconcordance. This would not necessarily just be another dogmatic text but a global reference book on spiritual stories and traditions from around the world and of many even some obscure religions. It would be a massive undertaking and who would be responsible for its authorship and editing would probably have to be of a democratic nature at least in part which would be somewhat problematic but perhaps a good exercise in itself.
I think the first task might be easiest in that it could be based on the "themes" of the current text ie Genesis or Creation Stories. It would be interesting to have a collection of say Creation Stories that are say old or on the order of 500 or so years old for it has to has some credibility in time and tradition. These could be derived I suppose for ancient writings and I suppose even some verbal traditions from what few remaining tribal elders are still practicing. Then I suppose you could have a book on miracles or such and another on noteable prohits so we have three books so far and then I suppose one on moral laws so thats four

Heres How it breaks so far

THE GLOBAL HOLY BIBLE

1, CREATION STORIES
2. EARLY MIRACLES
3. THE PROPHETS OF OLD
4. THE LAW GIVERS

etc. etc

Even this would be a massive, problematic but exciting undertaking for some or all to undertake but it would be a start and perhaps a solution to the troubles our world now faces but it would recognize the globality of religion or spirituality and its interpretation would probably give rise to many sects anyway depending on the emphasis and interpretation readers choose to empasis and embrace but at least it would provide an intitial core and unifying reference. It would sort of be the rebirth of a tree on a global basis..... The tree giving birth to itself.


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10 Dec 2004 @ 09:50 by swanny : Spelling
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When I was attending a Presbyterian seminary, in training to becoming an ordained minister, I learned that, during the 300 years following the death of Jesus, the early Roman Church carried out considerable research to choose which of the many religious writings, which were available, to include in the canon the church was assembling. They included the Old Testament, whose writings portray a perception of an angry, jealous, vengeful, judging and punishing God, which are quite at variance with the loving God portrayed in the New Testament. They also included a Book of Apocrypha, which has since been omitted in our modern versions of the early Roman canon, which we now call the Holy Bible.

It is historical fact that neither God nor Jesus directly contributed any writings to the Bible. All of the writings in the Bible were created, edited and interpreted by men (no women!). Many of these men were inspired and created very inspiring writings, but the writings for the New Testament were translated, interpreted and edited by the early church authorities into the ancient language of Attica, from whence they were again translated, interpreted and edited into Latin and other languages. The Bible can be a powerfully inspiring source of good for the benefit of humankind, but, depending on who is doing the translating, interpretation and editing, it can also be a powerfully inspiring source of evil for the detriment of humankind (for example, www.raptureready.com ).

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Thankyou for this Sir Mindlink
It just bespeaks for the troubling questions religion faces in our time yet it even the piece I contributed offers hope but does not come right out and say what is needed.
It strikes me that the great need then for religion is a Global Holy Bible or Concordance. This would not necessarily just be another dogmatic text but a global reference book on spiritual stories and traditions from around the world and of many even some obscure religions. It would be a massive undertaking and who would be responsible for its authorship and editing would probably have to be of a democratic nature at least in part which would be somewhat problematic but perhaps a good exercise in itself.
I think the first task might be easiest in that it could be based on the "themes" of the current text ie Genesis or Creation Stories. It would be interesting to have a collection of say Creation Stories that are say old or on the order of 500 or so years old for it has to has some credibility in time and tradition. These could be derived I suppose for ancient writings and I suppose even some verbal traditions from what few remaining tribal elders are still practicing. Then I suppose you could have a book on miracles or such and another on notable Prophets so we have three books so far and then I suppose one on moral laws so thats four

Heres How it breaks so far

THE GLOBAL HOLY BIBLE

1, CREATION STORIES
2. EARLY MIRACLES
3. THE PROPHETS OF OLD
4. THE LAW GIVERS

etc. etc

Even this would be a massive, problematic but exciting undertaking for some or all to undertake but it would be a start and perhaps a solution to the troubles our world now faces but it would recognize the globality of religion or spirituality and its interpretation would probably give rise to many sects anyway depending on the emphasis and interpretation readers choose to emphasis and embrace but at least it would provide an initial core and unifying reference. It would sort of be the rebirth of a tree on a global basis..... The tree giving birth to itself.  



10 Dec 2004 @ 10:00 by swanny : Reference
This initiative is based on the article at this link.
Link = [link]  



10 Dec 2004 @ 10:52 by swanny : My Contribution
Well heres a contribution from me to the Holy Global Bible

1535 : Jacques Cartier explores the St. Lawrence River, landing at Gaspe, Stadacona (Quebec City), and Hochelaga (Montreal).

1500 : Michelangelo: "Madonna and Child," Bruges.

1497 : John Cabot makes his first voyage to Canada, claiming the lands he visits (possibly Cape Breton, Newfoundland, and Labrador) for England.

1494 : Treaty of Tordesillas, June 7 : Spain and Portugal divide the New World between them.

1493 : The Nuremberg Chronicle.

1492 : Columbus at 41 discovers Watling Island in the Bahamas..Oct. 12, 1492, Cuba.. Oct. 18, and Haiti.. Dec. 6

1483 : Martin Luther, German Reformation leader born.

1473 : Nicolaus Copernicus, European astronomer born.

1466 : Johann Mentel prints first German Bible, (Strasbourg).

1465 : First printed music.

1461 : Leonardo Da Vinci becomes a pupil of Verrocchio.

1454 : Gutenberg produces "Indulgences," bearing printed data.

1450 : Gutenberg prints the "Constance Mass Book"

1433 : The double-eagle becomes the emblem of The Holy Roman Emperors.

1414 : The Medici of Florence become Bankers to the Papacy.

1412 : Joan of Arc born.

1396 : Johann Gutenberg, inventor of printing in Europe born.

1372 : Oxford becomes the Spiritual Center of England.

1362 : Pope Urban V.

1354 : The mechanical clock at Strasbourg Cathedral.

1328 : Invention of sawmill.

1322 : The Pope forbids the use of counterpoint in Church Music.

1278 : Invention of glass mirror.

1276 : The year of the four Popes: Pope Gregory X, Pope Innocent V, Pope Hadrian V and Pope John XXI.

1273 : Thomas Aquinas: "Summa Theologica" (credo ut intelligam).

1261 : Pope Urban IV.

1258 : Establishment of the House of Commons.

1233 : Coal mined for the first time in Newcastle, England.

1225 : Magna Carta reissued for third time in definitive form.

1216 : Pope Honorius III

1200 : The concept of "now" or "nyn" in Greek
and the concept of 0 or zero put forth in India.

1170 : Chretien Detroyes: "Lancelot," Romance of courtly love.

1159 : The Great Pope Alexander III.

1109 : Anselm of Canterbury "Ontological Proof"

1090 : The first water-driven mechanical clock constructed in Peking.

1075 : Dictatus Papae on Papal World Dominance.

1074 : Pope Benedict IX

1060 : "Christ as Ruler of the World" Byzantine Mosaic, Daphni, Greece.

1024 : Pope John XIX

1001 : NEW MILLENNIUM BEGINS
 
 

999 AD: Gerbert of Aurillac, Mathematician inventor and philosopher becomes Pope Sylvester II, first French Pope

990 AD: Aelfric The Grammarian, Abbot of Eynsham:"Homilies"

978 AD: Chinese Encyclopedia of 1000 volumes begun

974 AD: Pope Benedict VII

963 AD: "The Book of Fixed Stars" by Al Sufi mentions
"Nebula"

955 AD: Aelfric, English Benedictine Abbot and author born

950 AD: "Book of the Prefect," on the guild organization of Constantinople

931 AD: Pope John XI

913 AD: Ethelfeda, daughter of Alfred the Great, erects the great earthen mound of Warwick Castle

900 AD: Vikings discover Greenland

900 AD: Pope Benedict IV

899 AD: Edward the Elder, King of England

895 AD: Earliest Hebrew manuscript of the Old Testament

885 AD: King Alfred translates Gregory's "Cura Pastoralis" into English

871 AD: Alfred the Great...King of England

870 AD: Johannes Scotus Erigena compiles his Encyclopedia on nature

867 AD: Pope Hadrian II

849 AD: Alfred The Great......born

844 AD: Pope Sergius II

828 AD: The "Astronomical System" of Ptolemy translated into Arabic as "Almagest"

810 AD: Persian scientist and mathematician Muhammed Ibn Musa Al Chwarazmi writes a book on equations and coins "Algebra"

800 AD: Charlemagne crowned First Holy Roman Emperor by Pope Leo III at Rome December 25

774 AD: EuclidÕs "Elements" translated into Arabic

757 AD: Pope Paul I

731 AD: Pope Gregory III

730 AD: Venerable Bede: "Historia Eccesiastica Gentis Anglorum" English historian and theologian who introduced the counting of dates before the birth of Christ

715 AD: Benedictine Monk Winfrith, the future St. Boniface, begins his missionary work among Germans

700 AD: The Psalms translated into Anglo-Saxon and Water wheels for mill drive in use all over Europe

682 AD: Pope Leo II

676 AD: Pope Donus

655 AD: Founding of Benedictine Monastery at Peterborough

649 AD: Pope Martin I

640 AD: The Arabs find at Alexandria the famous library with 300,00 papyrus scrolls

632 AD: Georgios Pisides: "The Hexameron," Didactic Poem on the creation of the world

619 AD: Pope Boniface V


615 AD: 'Burning Water' (petroleum) used in Japan

604 AD: The first Church bells in Rome


600 AD: "Antiphonar" Pope Gregory's collection of Church chants

590 AD: Pope Gregory I, The Great

579 AD: Pope Pelagius II

575 AD: Pope Benedict I

561 AD: Pope John III

550 AD: Church bells being used in France

533 AD: Pope John II

530 AD: Pope Boniface II

526 AD: Pope Felix IV

523 AD: Pope John 1

520 AD: The Great Latin, Grammarian Priscian writes his "Institutiones Grammaticae"

508 AD: Pope Hormisdas

500 AD: Codex Bezae, New Testament in Greek and Latin

499 AD: The Synod of Rome issues a Decree on Papal elections

450 AD: Pope Leo

432 AD: St. Patrick begins his mission to Ireland

410 AD: Pope Innocent 1

360 AD: Scrolls begin to be replaced by books

313 AD: Edict of Milan: Constantine establishes toleration of Christianity

300 AD: The time of St. Nicholas

271 AD: First form of a compass may have been used in China

230 AD: Origen...: Hexapla, The Old Testament in Six Hebrew and Greek Texts

227 AD: Pope Urban 1

200 AD: The Bishop of Rome gains his predominant position as Pope

200 AD: Formation of Neo-Hebrew Language

196 AD: Pope Victor 1

129 AD: Jewish uprising under Bar Kokhaba

125 AD: Emperor Hadrian

65 AD: Gospel according to St. Mark

43 AD: London founded

40 AD: One of the earliest Christian Churches erected at Corinth  



10 Dec 2004 @ 12:00 by swanny : Global Bible Link
Global Bible Link = [link]  


10 Dec 2004 @ 17:14 by astrid : Thank You Swanny!
Very, very important information and an overall Subject Matter that needs to be vented much, much more!  


16 Aug 2008 @ 19:36 by Bill @76.195.159.13 : Books omited from The Holy Bible
I watched a Discovery Channel Doc sometime last year about the Holy Bible . In it , it explained some holy writings ( books , chapters , etc ) that were NOT added to The King James Version on the Holy Bible . One of these books , I think it was dealing with " Circle Writings ? ) were one of them . Can someone diret me to a website that would have this information .

Thank You
Bill  



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