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31 Aug 2005 @ 07:28, by Vaxen Var

Concerning the ''disaster'' brought on by hurricane ''Katrina'' I made a little comment earlier on in one of the chat rooms, here at NCN, concerning how people would do well to research scalar weather war. I was immediately branded nuts and also it was alleged that I was engaging in ''conspiracy theory'' thus nothing that I had to say or was intimating should be taken with more then a grain of salt.

I do realize that for people brought up on the poison milk of Hollywood lies and deception and the National Medias coverage of ''world affairs'' something like New Orleans being just the ''latest'' in an alarming ''series'' of scalar weather war attacks on the USA probably seems like so much jaded Sci Fi. I can assure you that it isn't. But don't believe me. Read the article below and for heavens sake and maybe even your own survival in the years to the research!

Find some pieces of the puzzle---

"Others are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves. So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations.It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our efforts, and that's why this is so important."

[Secretary of Defense William Cohen at an April 1997 counterterrorism conference sponsored by former Senator Sam Nunn. Quoted from DoD News Briefing, Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen, Q&A at the Conference on Terrorism, Weapons of Mass Destruction, and U.S. Strategy, University of Georgia , Athens , Apr. 28, 1997].

A battle in the skies is waged daily. Some battles are won and others lost. We yet know not which. For years this massive global project has been under way, but only now is it making it to the forefront of the consciousness of those with curious minds. These open minds know that every belief system fails; and only fails, under the weight of new truthful information. This is how progress is made, slowly and often only with the passing of a generation of humankind.

Find some pieces of the puzzle

The Truth

It would appear to be an indelible human trait that the 'truth' about most issues usually goes through three distinct phases known colloquially as "the three stages of truth". During the first stage, the issue goes unnoticed and is ignored. The second stage is characterized by a period of vehement denial. The third stage witnesses the truth about the issue being recognized as self-evident.

The intent of my work here is to skip directly to this third stage of truth. Time does not allow for us to bicker over the obvious.

Visit the site of Tom Bearden. His work is pioneering in this field. His latest paper is absolutely essential in understanding how this scalar technology works, how long it has been active, who runs it and why and finally what it is immediately capable of. He also discusses what kinds of events are planned for the U.S. in the coming two to three years. This man deserves the Prize for his research.

The following is a brief excerpt from his most recent paper dated October 13, 2004.

So in early 1990, the weather engineering operations over North America were assumed from the FSB/KGB by the Yakuza/Aum Shinrikyo teams, and operations continued with the Yakuza's leased giant scalar interferometers. The weather engineering against the United States continues today under the rogue Japanese teams on site in Russia, with direct FSB/KGB supervision.

In 2004 we have entered the 2-year "final preparation phase". These operations have been intensified and will continue to be intense, wreaking great economic damage. Hurricanes Charlie, Frances, Ivan, Jeanne, etc. have been no exception to the Yakuza weather engineering, which included directly influencing and controlling each hurricane's power and behavior, as well as directing its course and speed so as to choose its targeting path. Indeed, Ivan did a 180 degree turn, and Jeanne did a 360 degree loop before reaching Florida, demonstrating the degree of control available.

Meteorologists do recognize periods of increased or decreased hurricane activity for various reasons, but they do not consider deliberate human induction of hurricanes or human control over their direction, power, and progress.

Indeed, in latter March of 2004, Hurricane Catarina -- the first-ever recorded hurricane in the South Atlantic--formed and came ashore in Brazil on March 28 with 90 mph winds, doing substantial damage. So while the conventional wisdom is that hurricanes cannot form (naturally) in the South Atlantic; this one did and "broke all the records". It appears to have been a "deliberate probe" by the Yakuza: Produce and drive ashore a hurricane where the textbooks state one is impossible, to test whether Western governments and scientists recognize the artificial weather engineering . The answer, of course, is that -- as expected -- the West did not recognize its importance, or that it was a deliberate "stimulus." Western meteorologists and governments simply shrugged off Hurricane Catarina as an interesting little phenomenon but of no great concern.

For conventional consideration of hurricane increases, see (a) Lennart Bengtsson, "Hurricane Threats," Science , Vol. 293, 20 July 2001 p. 440-441; (b) Stanley B. Goldenberg et al ., "The Recent Increase in Atlantic Hurricane Activity: Causes and Implications," Science , Vol. 293,
20 July 2001 p. 474-479.

This full 60 page paper is a MUST read!

As a television weatherman I first met this information with skepticism, who wouldn't? Almost completely rejecting the concept that weather modification outside of cloud seeding possible. Additional clues kept creeping in until I came across examples of scalar weather engineering on Tom Bearden's web site. Soon I began looking for my own examples in my own skies. Whoa! There they were! And not just occasionally, but all the time! Examples in highs clouds were the easiest to spot, much less convective turbulence to round out the edges. Mid level clouds. the alto cumulus are now frequently gridded and square. Odd, very odd I thought. Lower clouds, cumulus and stratus, especially in a marine layer environment seem to be the most difficult in which to see the active grid. But it is there. I must also admit living in the desert climate of the Northern Rockies, which does not afford me much opportunity to get practiced with that kind of marine air mass.

Spotting activity in clouds is but one aspect of this global war. Evidence can be gleaned from satellite imagery; weather service doppler radars frequently give up these scalar secrets too. Contrails and chemtrails, without question, are a big part of this game. There must be aspects as yet unknown; that some curious mind will share with us as this war game develops further and as more eyes are opened and see.

It must be understood by all that the entirety of this planet's atmospheric weather processes are now controlled. All of it, completely 24/7/365!

The paradigm shift for all weathermen is now trying to forecast some organization's intent, and not the natural meteorological processes of earth's atmosphere. This adds yet another element of unknown to an already challenging field. The premise of this site is that you have a working understanding of basic meteorological processes.

M y building this site was an inevitability. I am just the first of a very bright group of individuals who have to look at information that is of varying reliability and quality on a day to day basis. draw conclusions from that data, then present those conclusions of that data to very large audiences. The weather industry will convert quickly, very quickly. Simply put this is a yes or no proposition; it is occurring or it is not. Even a cursory look at this site yields foundation-moving questions for weather guys, and moves the mind into this reality. The end game has arrived, just as the powers that be knew it would. My only question is whether it is later or earlier than their anticipation. This planet's destiny is set. only the details have yet to occur. Our branch of humanity has in its future the possibility of regaining our sovereignty; that issue yet remains to be determined. If humanity only knew that this choice presently exists. The alarm bells are ringing, it is time to wake-up.



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Scott is a Meteorologist and weatherman but he is not alone, by far, in what he knows. Conspiracy ''theory?'' Facts hard and cold!

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31 Aug 2005 @ 13:23 by joda : the question is..
Who profits?

The image of the world events seems blurred, no matter how much research I do, Vax.

Different factions waging wars upon Earth, another factions waging wars beyond Earth..what a mix :) For example, the logic of our Prison Wardens escapes my ability of comprehension. Maybe because the clues given by various researchers differ in some points, event to the extent of being mutually exclusive. If these lands of ours are dumping grounds for unwelcome individuals, wouldn't it be reasonable to keep the prison walls, floors and ceilings intact? Which ruler in his right mind destroys containment areas, used extensively by his own forces? 'Body containers' also should be treated with much more care, in the light of recent drop of birthrate. Emergency usage of clusters? Well, someday those will backfire I think :)

Heh..about those 'myths' of The Pilot - I've experienced a deja-vu yesterday (or maybe the day earlier..) - Earth Containment System reloaded again? :D Boy, in the current state of affairs they have to 'save game' quite often..

And what about this fleet of supposed spectators behind Mars? Just sitting there, eating pop-corn and ejoying the show? Placing bets and waiting to see which pit-bull comes from the fight alive?

Borgs dumping, Reptiles eating, Greys mutilating, Aquarians playing chess with dolphins and Handsome blond nordics modeling snowmans in a far, far away Neue Schwabia (during free-time, between foo-fighter maintenance shifts and breeding godly-blonde-females)? :D

And so information war continues.. weatherman discloses EMP and zero-vacuum devices, spreading some disinfo about terrorism in the same time?

I hope You'll forgive me this outburst, friend :) Confusions really bite sometimes.


Confusion does bit sometimes. Always seek 'a stable datum' which will belay the chaos till your forces can regarner a semblance of 'Ur-Dar.'

Thankyou for your 'outburst, j0da, shows you are thinking. A appreciate them.

As for 'the Pilot?' Yeah, rebooting the overall 'system' on a 5-7 cycle (yes?) or whatever the cycle is does require massive backups. I went through the experience just yesterday! The 'deja-vu.'

One can become swamped, indeed, by information overload. Info smog as it were...which is the reason for establishing a stable datum and sticking to it. The scientific method is fine in this area and can net real results.

More outbursts are welcome j0da. See ya at FZA. ;)  

31 Aug 2005 @ 14:38 by martha : ***

"hine mah tov u mah naiim shevet ahiim gam yahad."
;)--rahamiim ben reuven amor ve jaqueline cohen  

31 Aug 2005 @ 16:03 by joda : Centuries are passing by and yet still
sarcasm is beyond comprehenshion of many of us

Martha, do You really think Vax holds people's lives in such a contempt ?!
You are an NCN member since such a long time and You haven't got a grip on his 'style' of communication yet?

Hundreds of BODIES died and oh so many are likely to cry over them. BODIES are dying in America, Iraq, Thailand, China, Africa, Israel, EVERYWHERE... And what are You going to do ABOUT THAT? Sit and cry? Thousands of souls are being caught is some more or less unfortunate 'accidents' every day and what they do? Having recent body container wasted they run for another one, instead of getting their asses outta this damned planet. And that's sad for instance... So while feeling GRIEF after loss of beloved earth-mates is absolutely justified, striking thunders at people who ocuppy a bit less emotionally oriented POIT OF VIEW isn't helping anyone.

"A person is the soul. If they feel they have a soul, that is probably the body talking. If they want to argue about it, it is definitely the mind that is talking. Until a person is processed above the cycle, they will continue on this silly treadmill of growing up a little body, rattling their little rattle in their little cage, going to school, learning to read, and so forth. With processing, a person can rise above the cycle, to where they can occupy any body they want at will. If they want to occupy President Johnson and decide not to run again, or President Nixon and take us off the Gold Standard, or a Russian technician and blow up a Siberian Nuclear Complex, then they can do that. Then they can come back and be "themselves" in their "normal" body.

Until a person is processed up to that particular state they are either going to play see-the-movies (between lives implants) or go straight to the hospital, get a new meat body, go through the whole experience of being raised, and pick up more engrams. They do this over, and over, and over. It is a very wild order of experience. Its bizarre, in fact, but the folks don't know any other way to live. Personally, it remains unbelievable that people do that, but they do. They do that, everyone of them. The evidence is beyond refutation.

The Soul has come a long way.

"Excalibur revisited" Geoffrey C. Filbert

31 Aug 2005 @ 16:44 by scotty : I don't think Vax
hold peoples lives in contempt either !
Vax holds quite a lot of people in contempt - and he names them clearly - these people being the ones who cause pain to ordinary people - not the ordinary people who are hurting!

People have different ways of expressing their pain ( we who know Vax should be quite used to his saytirical way of expressing himself by now) - I believe Vax IS hurting for those poor folks in Louisianna and I don't think that attacking him because his way of expressing it doesn't meet up with somebody elses 'idea' of how it 'should' be expressed is very compassionate or understanding !
Vax has been many things to many people - indifferent isn't one of them !IMHO

============================================== Thanks for being an understanding friend all these years, scotty. You're a doll.  

31 Aug 2005 @ 17:23 by swanny : Tsunami
Well I don't quite suspect the Katerina situation
is the result of "weather wars" persae
more a case of some uncontrolled experiments" as a result of human
evolution... the weather is affected true by something
I believe this unprecident category 5 hurricane in the
area is the consequence or somewhat tied to the Tsunami
of the 26 of December 2004. This Tsunami itself maybe be
tied somewhat to the rotational adjustments occurring between
the earths core and surface, which itself may be tied to the solar system
reentering a distant past portion of the milky way....
every thing is somewhat connected. What part does human endevour play
in this grand scheme of things.... a very little but growing one.
We are just beginning to "tap" these mysteries of the Universe
and it is a question of possibilities. We should though rather avoid
these "uncontrolled experimentations" as a general policy .


31 Aug 2005 @ 17:43 by astrid : Now, I have no idea
what has gone on in the Chatrooms ( I have never managed to figure them out!.... ), but I have a very strong feeling (had it long before I entered the arena of NCN ) that a LOT of things - like EFFECT can be produced with a little PHYSICS.... as in RESONANCE Physics: crack glass, crack stone walls, CRACK THE PLANET in TWO, wich any scientist of "true" PHYSICS knows to be AREAL POSSIBILITY!!!

Experiments with Tesla Resonance Chambers?/Boxes? were stopped and Tesla's Instruction/Calculus papers were destroyed, right then and there, when the experiment came so close to conclusion that there for a moment was a real threat!!!.... that was in the Sixties in Siberia.
Here are just two sites with just a little info "How Things Work In The Beautiful World of Madmen Having Access To Toys They Shouldn't Have -Let Alone Play With".

(Archimedes in his day n'age, already, knew he could move the Moon from its Place in the Sky with the strength harenssed in just one of his Pinkies IF he had enough pulleys to work for him.... simple laws of Newtonian Physics is enough to do THAT job!...)
These peop[le we are talking about are NOT HEALTHY IN ANY aspects of their Beings!!
THAT is the first thing we need to understand (about them )and TAKE TO HEART! These people are DESPERATE!!! in and with all their ILLNESSes producing one overall Feeling feeling of DESPERATION!... Secondly WE need to understand that desperate people take desperate measures!...

Joda, there IS NO OTHER LOGIC at work in these people's acions exept the EMOTIONAL "Logic" of a madman! There never has been!
In that vibrational frequency these people are there is no logic, or any awareness of cause & consquence. There is no feeling for others: ALL are VERMIN, GOYIM, ROACHES, CATTLE to these people -even their own "colleagues" -if from another faction, even if/when working on the same project,towards the same goal: destruction of all intelligent life around them!
THESE people are trapped: they cant stand Life, yet they are so afraid of dissolving into NOTHING/ness, that they are PANICKED every single second of their lives!!!...and in all this emotional turmoil they have AN IMMACULATE IMAGE TO HOLD UP towards the cameras!

vaxen was using THEIR lingo only to show us THEIR mindset, how they express themselves when talking about us, everyday people, whom these Godly Ones despice almost as much as they despice themselves! vaxen did not say that to him people in these disaster areas are vermin but he was trying to make us see/understand how we are seen and adressed as by the Bush Junta ( and their Employers, the Int. Banker Cartell; the Crown )they most certainly are!
It is high time, vax is saying, if I understand vax correct in this instance, that we FACE the Dark truth about these pitiful ones... so that we know where to put our trust: In them, the madmen, -or in Life/ "God" via our own God-given Faculties, like instinct, intuition, discernment etc.

WAR cannot be handled any more elegantly than via WEATHER/Climate distortions / exaggerations!!!.... Who on ncn or elsewhere "believes" in this -or not.... WHY WOULD THEY CARE?!?!?? They have a COLLATERAL DAMAGE quota to fill EVERY DAY -or else they themselves has to suicide!...
Has "everybody" forgotten, that right after the Bush Junta took over the White House an order of 200 million BodyBags were delivered to the Gov. and one journalist, I remember asked, for what purpose they were ( no Iraq going on then yet) and the answer was short and sweet: for FEMA to use in Natural Disasters -in that effect, if not EXACT quoted. 200 million BodyBags... That was obviously the planned quota for Bush to accomplish!...
How many have they used to date and how and how still to go, so to speak? Let that math be your guide of still to occur Natural Disasters, during our Bush Regime!...

============================================== Thanks for your clarifications as to 'my' motives etc. Thanks for everything A-d. ;)  

1 Sep 2005 @ 03:57 by koravya : Eye Geometry
Here is a four part article relevant to developing some perspective on the
There is a question towards the end of the fourth page.
“Could someone -- using that same hyperdimensional technology -- make an already existing, less powerful hurricane … into a Category 5? “

Hyperdimensional Hurricanes?
Part One: The Mystery
By Richard C. Hoagland
© 2004 The Enterprise Mission

Quite a fascinating study Hogie is doing. Thanks for the link Koravya. It is inspiring to know that there are so many 'seekers' out there. I hope you'll visit, if you haven't already, Col., Tom Beardens site and read through some of his materials. Thanks, bro...  

2 Sep 2005 @ 05:11 by tribo : weather control
If anyone was messing about with the weather, I think the combined efforts of "Spooks International" would have sorted them out by now, and squashed them.

There are other reasons for the chaotic weather patterns.  

2 Sep 2005 @ 06:05 by vaxen : Other reasons?
Maybe you wouldn't mind sharing them with us? As far as the international ''spook'' agencies are concerned? They are a part of it. New WOrld Order it is called by, amongst others, the senior Bush not to mention Adolph HItler from whence Bush got the term...

Do just a little research and you may find your 'opinion' changing just as the meteorologist, in the above article, did...when adequately having researched the ''available'' facts! Maybe start with HAARP. Or go to the links recommended in Scotts article.  

2 Sep 2005 @ 06:51 by joda : HAARP
It seems my memory lacked some chunks regarding :)

Anyone interested in HAARP or other rather unusual subjects can enjoy the service again - the page is up.


Code of a Loyal Officer:
1) To honor one's integrity above all else.

2) There_shall_be_no_interference_in_the_ways_of_men. (revoked)

Thankyou so much, j0da. There is already a 'movement' underfoot for total military dominance of 'cyberspace.' YOu might be interested in googling "Omni Dimensional Warfare." New Orleans is giving the MJTF's a real training opportunity for what is yet to come. Never forget NAZI Germany. Not ever.

And the people who are in control here in America financed and supported them all the way unto this very day! That's our wonderful Xenu (eXperience eNtity of the Not ised Universe). But Yatrus is playing havoc in his old laboratory as well and he is infinitely worse then our friend Xenu! ;) Ah, yes, the fifth dimensional battlespace!  

7 Sep 2005 @ 07:36 by joda : is back!
and the HAARP story is here..

enjoy the reading!  

7 Sep 2005 @ 23:36 by Outsider @ : weather messing
You do sound a little nuts. Whoever messes with the weather messes with him-herself and family, not just "others." Who benefits from it? Coppertone, for having a larger hole in the ozone layer? It would be like cutting of your nose to spite your face. Dumb move, and a very temporary high. If there is messing with the weather, then it doesn't seem they know what they're doing.  

8 Sep 2005 @ 04:40 by Outsider @ : weather
There no need to blame HAARP when the scientists have warned us for 30 years about global warming and its effects, about the hole in the ozone layer, due to pollution. Nothing covert about that. The earth is 1 degree warmer than it's been in a century; storms are more fierce due to warmer water temperatures. That's how bad hurricanes form. Unless industry and transportation cleans up a lot more it will only get worse.  

8 Sep 2005 @ 08:44 by joda : well
Many parties benefit from the suffering and death. Even looking from the "officialy rational" point of view - we know what is good and what is bad for our mud ball home called Earth since a long long time, but anyway, some people do what they do. They aren't after balance, they are after profit. We aren't short of madmen - to the contrary, we could export them to other worlds in thousands...

Maybe You would like to contemplate that attitude "Everybody knows it, so it must be true". How everybody knows this or that? How did they learn that, where, from whom? Is this or that true, because it was written in a book, for example?

Sounding nuts?
I've talked with several psychologists, asking for the definition of 'normal', and the answer was usually: normal = average. When one thinks, speaks and acts like everyone else, than one is considered normal. But of course, what is normal in India, is completely nuts and unacceptable in Italy, for instance.
And heh...when talking about regional norms, we would be wise to take into the consideration wider areas than our home world. :D  

9 Sep 2005 @ 07:28 by joda : heheh
Shared idea of reality is merely an agreement. How much this agreement has in common with TRUTH or REALITY - it depends on who agrees :D  

9 Sep 2005 @ 07:51 by Outsider @ : yes
sometimes it depends on who agrees. And even with a shared view of reality or truth, there is often more truth than meets the eye (that one doesn't see).  

26 Sep 2005 @ 01:47 by Redneck Chick @ : Your theory vs. Biblical terms
Ok, i have one thing to say about all of this. Is it Biblical?
Check out Matthew 24 verses 5-8
(New King James Version)
Jesus says:
(5) "For many will come in My name saying 'I am the Christ' and will decieve many.(6)"And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled; for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet."
(7) "For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places."
(8) "All these are the beginning of sorrows."
All of these Hurricanes and different natural disasters are controlled by God, not people. Not other countries. Not by anything by Almighty God and his infinite wisdom. He has a plan. This is a part of it. These are the end times, don't try to cover this up with all this electromagnetic terrorist mumbo jumbo. God controls the weather. No one else. Get it straight.
Redneck Chick  

18 Oct 2005 @ 18:45 by energy : One last hurricane test!?
It seems like this would be the last test of the hurricane machine. It is funney that Wilma took a jog to the sw for 2 days before it was let go to the nw just in time to meet up with a cold front that will make it go ne, smack in the middle of Florida(Tampa?)
I guess we are the Weather test dummys.
And is it a coincidence that the movie, "The Weather Man will be out in theaters this week!?
This should be interesting...  

19 Oct 2005 @ 13:38 by energy : Tropical Storm To A Catagory 5????

23 Oct 2005 @ 03:02 by Redneck chick @ : This is all soooo fake.
Just wanna say, I think your all crazy, all those who belive this krap anyways. Man does not have a complete control over the weather. Here's a piece of advice that might just make some sense,(Much more than all of this krap does) i guess it depends on who you are though, GO HOME AND READ YOUR BIBLE, GOD IS IN CONTROL. Everything is done for a reason. If humans could control the weather, as you say, then why havent they formed the biggest Hurricane ever seen to wipe out our whole nation? Crazy ideas like this the rest of the sane Americans bad names. Like I said, Go read the Holy Bible, If you can find any Biblical terms about this, without taking them out of context, you'll make a believer out of me. But until you do, I still think your a bunch of lunatics who need to get a life and stop making up krap in your head.
-Redneck Chick-
I am trying to voice my opinion in a nice manner, all this krap and this "Theory" is annoying. It's like believeing in the Big Bang, Evolution, or some other krap that people made up. Jesus is the only way.  

23 Oct 2005 @ 18:15 by gordon @ : spallation neutron source
Forgive my intrusion... I wonder if someone here (vaxen?) could tell me what this might be used for??
A friend of mine asked me to look at it, but it appears to be out of my educational league.  

23 Oct 2005 @ 21:08 by bushman : Hmm
It basicly smashes atoms into stuff, gordon, to see whats inside or to manufacture exotic matter, like microblackholes and neutrons, and a host of subatomic particals. It's like taking 2 suns and causeing them to collide head on at the speed of light. BLAM!!!, lol. Hmm, when Jesus comes next time, we will be liveing back in the stone age. Which would be fine if we had eatten from the tree of life, but, we didn't, we ate from the tree of knowledge, thusly, choosing to learn the hard way, it's our God given duty to learn everything there is to learn, dark and light, I think thats why he made us to have babies, so as to give us that time to learn. And then use that knowledge in a moral and just way, so as to make our creator proud. We glorify our creator thru our mental evolution, and of course the creator must be entertained by the follies of men. Redneck Chick, we are judged by our good works, not by our mistakes. :}  

23 Oct 2005 @ 23:49 by Joda @ : Redneck, biblicaltermize THIS
Crazy? Crap?
Well, You are entitled to Your opinion and free to share it.
But let me exercise my freedom to share my part - those lines You cite, well.. SOME call them prophecies, OTHER call them SCENARIOS. Scenarios are being played all the time, from those little pieces of Hollywood cinema to the grand planetary schemes of fake gods. Ever heard about "questioning authorities"?

And don't get me wrong, i like that Jesus guy, he did a good job, but his teachings are mainly lost. Lost in stupidity and lost in translation. What is left is mainly wishfull thinking and telling people what to do without telling them how to do it. Don't belive it??? Look at the modern western world, it's run by christianity and it just doesn't work. To soothe the pain of this sad confrontation let's look at the eastern world - it doesn't work either.

But for You, Redneck chick, that is just stupid rambling of the lunatic. So be it.  

24 Oct 2005 @ 06:00 by vaxen : thanks...
Joda for the link to viewpoint. i just read the entire book about dans' (G.Vey) experiences and it is quite a story. of course i have known about all the stuff he mentions for many years now and tried to get the message out...but, you know how the 'implanter' orgs work.

that dan is now in vietnam makes me wish that i had stayed there long ago as well. good people and lots of really good 'dope.' those tai sticks are pretty incredible, from across the border, as well...and the chilis? shazam! besides, i love rice and...

well, people can question the info as much as they want but the facts still remain facts. mostly blind belief on a tremedous via via fear, exploitation, pir pressure, ''education'' which isn't, delusion, mind control from day one, take their toll on innocent beings who can hardly be called 'hu-men'' and ''hu-wo-men.''

but you know...all their power, so called, their destruction and vyiing for ''control'' can't stop us...

there never was a ''jesus'' but that implant sure does take its' toll. gotta laugh at those who think they've read ''the 'bible' yet can't speak one word of hebrew but rely for their insane invectives upon poorly made translations by others who can't speak the language either. oh well...

it's fun to exteriorize nightly and to get the real ''news'' whenever we want it from places like ''Yamantau.''

KSW and remember ''If it isn't fun it isn't SCN.''

and gordon as far as sns goes i'll have to get back to you on that one...if you can't wait try some of fravia's favorite techniques and run that data down.

heaven waits for no man...  

24 Oct 2005 @ 19:57 by vaxen : OK!
thank you for your clarification concerning the matter, gordon...
if you do get the time, and haven't already, please read the link that Joda left above at and trace down the links therein for an eyeopener concerning more than just ''weather war.'' may interest Redneck Chick as well as there are real ''prophecies'' involved which are much older than Shlomo Ha Melech , span the globe, are related to our times and...

Well...I'll be syncretic and see what the union of sns and weather war might bring might also investigate our (USA) "Space Command" and the U.S.Air Forces' vision of 21st century warfare, replete with 'subheadings/&subtexts' on ''Weather War.'' X-Sec Def Cohens' appraisal is also worth considering...

Cyber Sleuthing is such fun....  

25 Oct 2005 @ 23:11 by gordon @ : Dan Eden's story
Wow!!! I don't know how far into this book I am, but it's having a most unusual effect on me. Almost as if I wrote this myself and I'm remembering it as I read it. Strange. Thanks, Joda for the link! And thank you vaxen for the link to the site.  

26 Oct 2005 @ 03:19 by vaxen : Sure bro...
Lots of stuff there to cover. Glad you are 'experiencing' the ''connection.'' Let me know if you encounter anything you can't ''handle.'' Good show mate.  

28 Oct 2005 @ 21:47 by vaxen : You may...
find the below link of great interest.  

9 Nov 2005 @ 23:27 by Redneck chick @ : ok..
You are entitled to your beliefs, Joda, but i feel sorry for you. Jesus is real, and Christianity doesnt seem to work because HUMANS run it. WE ARE NOT PERFECT! WE MAKE MISTAKES. God is not human. He is in charge. He does not make mistakes. He controls the weather. And those PROPHECIES, IT WILL HAPPEN. But, believe what you will. Im not going to argue with you, it's a waste of my time to deal with your foolishness.
Redneck chick  

10 Nov 2005 @ 04:51 by vaxen : dear chick...
interesting that you don't know god. it is also obvious that you do not know yourself either. do some research on the word ''god'' and you will find that the root is actuall the word HU. so a HU man is a Khoda man. HU is also the origin of the word Khoda.

Your beliefs are very limited but at least you are beginning to realise that. Expand your mind you are swimming in G'D and indeed are that very G'D that you claim to be seeking. You are like the little droplet of water that refuses to believe that it is that wonderous sea.

Someday you will return to that sea of beingness doingness havingness that you are and then there will be great joy...peep in through that window of soul and experience a little of it now. All of the ism's of this, and other worlds, are deterants to the true knowledge of self that you carry innate within you...

Before God was I am...  

10 Nov 2005 @ 22:20 by Redneck Chick @ : No not really..
Ok, you know what? yall can believe what you want. Im not going to argue with you anymore. God is Real. I don't care what your research says. Forget that krap.
Redneck Chick  

11 Nov 2005 @ 00:26 by joda : ah, yes, yes, yes
"I don't care what your research says." - lovely ;)

I found that yesterday:
1. What the public doesn't know, I won't tell them.
2. Don't bother me with the facts, my mind is made up.
3. If one can't attack the data, attack the people; it is easier.
4. Do one's research by proclamation; investigation is too much trouble.

How about that? :D Some seem to love that particular line of thought and exercise it on every occasion. Well..  

11 Nov 2005 @ 04:52 by vaxen : basically...
you aren't arguing with us, rednick chick, but you are arguing with yourself. be-lief actually means ''by your leave.'' which is to say whatever you allow you allow. affinity reality and communication come together to form understanding...

locks, secondaries, engrams, chains of them...

self determinism keeps them there. the extent of free choice is remarkable. khoda=god=hu...get root.

thanks for your dialogue redneck chick. i'm a southerner too...but beyond that i am me and beyond that i am an operating static with tons of potential. i have my own universe, too... ;) U0, U1, U2, U3. U3 is the universe that we agree upon. the others? want to know?
thanks joda san. lots of good ARC your way bro.  

15 Nov 2005 @ 00:36 by Redneckchick @ : ...

16 Nov 2005 @ 10:44 by jazzolog : Redneckchick Sounds Like Our Kind Of
People. Get in here and sign up!  

23 Nov 2005 @ 01:58 by redneck chick @ : yep
Sign up people, God is Awesome, and we shouldnt believe this stuff!Thanks Jazzolog!  

23 Nov 2005 @ 02:31 by vibrani : I'm just waiting to read
one chorus of "Onward Christian Soldiers" in here lol. Push that religion, push it!  

23 Nov 2005 @ 02:54 by redneckchick @ : Yeah!
Im Game!  

23 Nov 2005 @ 03:15 by vibrani : You're in the game, already lol
Well, that seems right for you :-)  

28 Nov 2005 @ 22:05 by Redneckchick @ : Cool!
Yeah, thanks a lot! I think these people need to hear the word. Who actually believes that people can control the weather? God controls the weather people!
I suggest that you do some research into the HAARP program, it is not the only one nor is weather control its' only use, as well as do some research into the Air Forces' 21st century program not to mention ONI, CID and a whole lot of other ''alphabet soup' agencies that are ''actively'' involved. Then, while you are at it, do some 'in depth' research into soft weapons as well as chemtrails and also you might enjoy learning the Greek and Hebrew tongues so that you can back up your obvious ignorance where HU (G'D) is concerned. Or do you really think that you are the only person alive who has any kind of understanding concerning the issue you seem to be so ignorant of?

Too Da Loo Redneck. I doubt you even understand the meaning of that term. Haleloo YaH! But then I suppose you think the so called 'Bible' was written in English and that the blood soaked X-tian churches are the last word on a non existential Christ?

A January 2001 article titled "Washington's New World Order Weapons Have the Ability to Trigger Climate Changes" appeared on the Global Research website and was a reprinted excerpt from ECO NEWS . It stated "Environmental warfare is defined as the intentional modification or manipulation of the natural ecology, such as climate and weather, earth systems such as the ionosphere, magetosphere, tectonic plate system and/or the triggering of seismic events (earthquakes) to cause intentional physical, economic, and psycho-social, and physical destruction to an intended target geophysical or population location, as part of strategic or tactical war."  

20 Jan 2006 @ 03:53 by DixieChick @ : =P
Yall all suck!  

19 Apr 2006 @ 21:23 by gordon @ : weather control
For redneckchick  

5 Mar 2008 @ 05:36 by Vaxen @ : Thanks...
gordon for the article. Unfortunately one hasa to purchase the article to read it in its' entirety. Not so with weather war research...there is tons of it.

Full Spectrum Dominance includes Weather Control. Weather War is a well defined theatre in contemporary Military Parlance.

Of course most civilians and even military people know nothing of it. But they will. Another cool site which goes far beyond and intro is Colonel Beardens' site: He does an in depth analysis of weather modification via scalar interferometry and how it is applied in warfare.  

19 May 2009 @ 11:24 by Jayne @ : drug addiction treatment
Hello. The crux. is that the vast majority of the mass of the universe seems to be missing. Help me! Please help find sites for: drug addiction treatment. I found only this - treatment of alcoholism. Browse news related to alcohol treatment. Home consumer information alcohol and drug treatment services cl; ir chun eolas ar dhruga; a scaipeadh cl chun feasacht faoi alc; a fhorbairt. Thanks :-). Jayne from South.  

7 Jul 2009 @ 01:15 by GodlyBlondeFemale @ : FREEDOM
Geoffreys comment is 100% Correct. He even supplied a workable ( if not temporary ) solution. We have the potential to KNOW every particle/vibration - THOUGHT at any MOMENT on this planet alone...and still it is a minuscule fraction of GOD - THETA - THETAN. God doesnt "need" Us to argue/defend/communicate on Gods Behalf.

I have made the time to read many of these posts/written communications and I still havent seen a referance to FREEDOM. REAL TRUE FREEDOM.

ONE IS FREE. You Decide on the Gradient.

If "We" "I" "YOU" "THEY" "Them" are dependant on it being granted authorized sanctioned from any thing or any one...CHRIST that leaves the door wide open to CREATE THE EFFORT TO TAKE IT.

Homer Wilson Smith had some good stuff to share also. GPMs. WORSE than HMDs...LOL.

Thank You to Everyone that made the Time to Look at and Share TRUTH.

Much Love/Understanding to All.  

16 Sep 2010 @ 11:05 by stimoceiver @ : lollerskates, its the internets!
Wassup yall and good hellos all around.

You are all to be very much commended for bringing some very interesting viewpoints to this roundtable, even the godless heathen and idolater with the southern accent, and Jayne who appears to be shilling out the english language for spam domains and merely a semblance of meaning.

I found this page after I put on my google goggles and searched for: U1 U2 U3 Universe +"thetan"

(thetan in quotes and with + to avoid all those search results for THE TAN.)

Great search, you should know that this discussion thread is the 2nd result among the extraordinarily few results google has returned for this search. You're just after who have neatly summarized the steps of the Rons org OT bridge. Never could wrap my thetan around that Games Universe Model, pun intended. No wonder Redneck Chick got plum scarr'd off by all this talk of Weather Modification, Thetans and Engrams! Might just as well have told her That Thou Art, Thou Art God, or Be Here Now, it'd still be the standard Christian 'us against the rest of you heathens' mentality.

Sad, really, that the information on U1 U2 U3 and their relation to spiritual epistemology, is so sparsely distributed on the internet. Of couse I realize that I could find just a few more results by tweaking that google search.

Nice to see viewzone coming up in the thread as well. great articles on Crypto Archeology there. Also I cant help but wonder how the data Gene Matlock presents in his "Who Brought the Mayans to Mexico" and "Will the Real Atlantis Please Stand Up" on that site, would fit into an accurate recent earth timeline including concepts like space opera, implanters and the pilot's Reset Time and related ideas Ogger touches on.

Seems like recent earth past lives are a lot harder for some of us recovering body-addicted thetans to recall than the vast expanses of Track before crash landing in this miasma of beingness.

Also, are you all familiar with the work of Anatoly Fomenko? A Rssian PhD mathematician with quite a few papers to his name before he started applying mathematical methods (RUSSIAN mathematical methods, perish the thought!) to the topic of History.

And basically come up with a new timeline for modern history that places that Jesus Dude's birth and death from 1152 to 1186 AD by our current timeline. Here's some data on some of his methods:

and here's a copy on Google Books of the first volume of his 10 volume magnum opus "The New Chronology" entitled "History: Science or Fiction?" I recommend reading the first few chapters to understand his basic thesis, then if or when the math gets too thick jumping to around page 350+ where he presents some highly interesting documentary photos and reproductions of artifacts that clearly show (among other things) some markedly different dating conventions in use over the last millenia. Would it really be *THAT* big a surprise that the Roman Empire decided to add about 1000 years to its history sometime after the Council of Nicea in 343? Nice way to impress the clilent states of your expanding empire, probably quell a few revolts before they start just through fear alone from THAT hypothetical act of propagandizing.

Might interest Redneck Chick too since the date of 1152 for Jesus birth corresponds nicely with the carbon dating of the Shroud of Turin, even tho Fomenko doesnt mention that or the possible significance to Christians of the fact that this would only be year 858 and well before the Millenium and anything prophesized to happen then. But Fomenko's book hardly touches on Jesus, Religion or Christianity except as the source of the point of origin on the modern dating timeline. (When all good thetans already know the Jesus myth was actually based on the life of Apollonius of Tyana.)

So I gotta say while I cant buy every last conclusion advanced by this fellow, between his revised timeline and Ogger's reset time and related data, and Gene Matlock's enlightening speculations on viewzone, and my own admittedly limited attempts to perceive data of recent earth past track and/or my involvement therein, its clear that a lot of deletion and distortion has occured between the actuality of "what actually happened" and "what 20th century eurocentric-derived westrern history" describes.

In parting I'll leave you all with one more high Theta URL. Anyone remember the "Society of Beings Research Academy" materials or the "7 graces"? I remember they used to both be on, an Australian site. here's a URL for the SOBRA document from the bowels of  

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