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 The day the earth shook! Tsunami and Sumatran disaster.25 comments
28 Dec 2004 @ 19:40, by Brian Outten

It is somewhat wierd that the Tsunami / Sumatran earthquake should happen exactly one year to the day after the tragic earthquake in Bam (Iran)!
I dont believe it is some strange conspiracy or anything like that, but I wonder if anyone can hazard an explanation?

Furthermore, I hope you will join me in prayer for the dead and dispossessed at this awful of times.
God, give them strength.

Us, all we can do is continue to strive in order for the poor people of Southern Asia to have nearer the quality of life we have. Plus, the arrival of some early warning system of Earthquake / Tsunami monitoing-warning equipment, such as is in existance to the west coast of USA!


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28 Dec 2004 @ 22:34 by astrid : Dear Brian,
If you look at ( Natural) Disasters DATES over all, you'll find similarities that will blow your mind!
Exactly one year after the Northridge Quake, Jan17th/-94 here in the SouthLand, you had the devastating Kobe-quake in Japan; Jan 17th/-95.
The ( Manmade ) Oklahoma Disaster was April 19th/-96 exactly one year after the ( Manmade ) Disaster in Waco, TX.
Look into the History of Wars, a hundred years back and you'll see that the worse the war, the worse the winters, in the warring regions!
I think disasters, both Natural and Manmade are a Cosmic response/Cleansing to and of the Collective Energies/so called The Collective Unconscious of Humans. This is exactly why it is so important for us who have ANY clue about the power of envisioning, to keep no other image in our Minds but Heaven on Earth.
Sure, that stirrs "Things" up, creating a juxtaposition of the Darkness of the dark minded people and Light in the light-minded peoples...Then the Energy that grows stronger "wins"; shows off stronger... Maybe...Who really knows the "hows" of Universe!... But at least this imagery gives us the possibility to grasp the Cosmic "whats"  



29 Dec 2004 @ 13:34 by spiritseek : The collective mind
All here on earth I believe are causing Earths changes with the power of our collective minds.  


29 Dec 2004 @ 14:21 by spells : The Great Mother Earth......
Doesn't it ocurr to anyone that the Earthmind, which is living and conscious, is at a point where it just will not withstand the raping, disrespect and use of it by the human species? I don't know why that part of the world got hit as hard as it did, but this is karma coming to us and right in our faces. One only has to attune itself to the earth and one can feel and See how the vibration of it is lower than ever before.

I just read somewhere that no animals were found dead. Think about it, the death toll of humans is over 60,000 and yet no other species (or very few) were found killed by this? If that isn't a message from the earth I don't know what is.

How much can the earth withstand with our lifestyles, focus and uncaring attitude towards the very life the beloved earth is?

Yes I agree it is the collective mind (both earth mind, world mind), through their intent. The intent of the world mind (majority) has nothing or very little to with what is for the highest benefit of ALL living creatures. As long as we go along with them in any way, shape or form, we are also a part of that karma.

Yes, keeping high visions, positive outlooks are important, but please See the karmic reasons for most things and change your intent and life to reflect true change that will help our wonderful planet earth. High intent, positivity AND ACTION!!  



29 Dec 2004 @ 16:11 by vibrani : Oh here we go, again
the earth isn't pissed off, or punishing humanity. The earth has its own consciousness and it and the cosmos are doing their thing. These horrible catastrophes are not created by humans and it's not the earth getting even.

Our consciousness and the earth's can be more in alignment, that's true. People can tune in more to natural forces that are occuring, and it is the IGNORANCE of not paying attention to what's going on in many dimensions, many levels, that creates the destruction by building where it's stupid to build. By building homes that aren't safe, like putting a school 50 feet from the beach, for god's sake. That's just stupidity and lack of care.

The earth has always done its thing and it always will, whether people are on it or not. Get real.

Sending love never hurts.  



29 Dec 2004 @ 16:12 by vibrani : Sandi
animals were washed out to sea and you can believe that here were tons of dead fish on the beach.  


29 Dec 2004 @ 16:12 by astrid : Yes, Spells
This, your PLEA here "....please See the karmic reasons for most things and change your intent and life to reflect true change that will help our wonderful planet earth. High intent, positivity AND ACTION!!" is of utmost importance! ONE way - or the other, we WILL be brought to that point where we will start to heed Her Pleas!  


29 Dec 2004 @ 16:18 by spells : thanks Astrid.....
thank you Astrid, for having clarity and seeing the true intent behind my words...  


29 Dec 2004 @ 16:25 by vibrani : I wonder
what the earth would think about you guys thinking of it as a mother who is bent on destruction and murdering all life upon it?

From "Lightningbolt" by H. Storm, this quote from his teacher, Zero Chief Estcheemah (pp. 162,163):
"Earth is not your enemy. If She were the enemy, as many propagandists
want us to believe, then no human would be alive to tell of it. Mother
Earth gives us Life. Here on Earth is the place where all Spirits can be
born and experience life...To hate Life is to deny the physical fact of our
personal existence. To fear Mother Earth and to malign Her brings about
mistrust of the Self. When we mistrust Existence, our Earth, our very lives,
we find ourselves in deep mental anguish."

Lightningbolt said that was sad. Estcheemah replied that it is and
extremely dangerous. "For when belief becomes greater than Life and more
authoritative than our human needs, things can become very crazy" So
important it is for us to think for ourselves and live our own lives.  



29 Dec 2004 @ 17:07 by astrid : Nora, I can see your point!....
but that is NOT how my -and most likely Spell's- comments are meant either. I don't think that Gaia is "bent on destruction and murdering all life upon it?" THAT is ALL reserved for US , Humans.... WE are very good at that....

What we cannot turn the blind eye to is the fact that there ARE Laws of physics on three levels in action right now here in our Human Zone: (the "Newtonian") = Mechanical Physichs, Quantum Physics and Meta Physics.
Breaking ANY of the Laws within ANY of these Physics WILL have their LOGIC consequences... THAT is what we are talking about/refferring to. If we humans destroy the Earth, which we ARE doing... then one day there will be no Living Earth for us anymore.... or what do you think? Can abusive, nonshalant behaviour and abusive OVER-USE go on forever with no consequences??? Of course not! We both know that, don't we?

Do you have a website for "Lightningbolt" that you could give us? I would like that a lot!

Wish you A HAPPY NEW YEAR, Nora!  



29 Dec 2004 @ 20:53 by vibrani : Astrid
Astrid, as I previously stated, we can become more attuned to the earth, be more in alignment with it. I agree that people are not doing enough to stop destroying the earth, and at the same time I do acknowledge that there are many people doing a lot of good work to return a balance to the earth.

"Lightningbolt" is by Hyemeyohsts Storm, and it's out of print already, and copies are limited in most places, but I think you can buy it on his site
[link]

LOS ANGELES, California - The deadly Asian earthquake may have permanently accelerated the Earth's rotation, shortening days by a fraction of a second and caused the planet to wobble on its axis, U.S. scientists said Tuesday.

Richard Gross, a geophysicist with NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in California, theorized that a shift of mass toward the Earth's center during the quake Sunday caused the planet to spin 3 microseconds, or millionths of a second, faster and to tilt about an inch on its axis.

When one huge tectonic plate beneath the Indian Ocean was forced below the edge of another "it had the effect of making the Earth more compact and spinning faster," Gross said.

Gross said changes predicted by his model probably are too minuscule to be detected by a global positioning satellite network that routinely measures changes in Earth's spin, but said the data may reveal a slight wobble.

The Earth's poles travel a circular path that normally varies by about 33 feet , so an added wobble of an inch is unlikely to cause long-term effects, he said.

"That continual motion is just used to changing," Gross said. "The rotation is not actually that precise. The Earth does slow down and change its rate of rotation."

When those tiny variations accumulate, planetary scientists must add a "leap second" to the end of a year, something that has not been done in many years, Gross said.

Scientists have long theorized that changes on the Earth's surface such as tide and groundwater shifts and weather could affect its spin but they have not had precise measurements to prove it, Caltech seismologist Hiroo Kanamori said.

"Even for a very large event, the effect is very small," Kanamori said. "It's very difficult to change the rotation rate substantially."  



29 Dec 2004 @ 21:16 by astrid : Yup. that's it!...
...we who already have gotten our eyes opened need to share what we know to be The Truth about Life and hopefully thus awaken one more "Sleeping Beauty" and one more and one more; person by person almost. Because Life on Earth is -after all- in the Cosmic Balance of Karma: CAUSE and EFFECT/CONSEQUENCE....Bad behaviour, bad consequencies.... Too many of those... despite the many awakened, who already are doing the best they can in this tremendous UPHILL battle where the "Corps" and "Every-Day"-People of equally selfish attitude could care less what they destroy as long as they benefit in whatever way they deem they "need".
I'm rambling... You know all this! But maybe someone else who reads it will have an "AHA" -moment!... We can always hope!
THANKS for the link. Did you notice: almost 38 dollars for a used book. Wow... Must some book!  



29 Dec 2004 @ 21:17 by vibrani : What I am saying, Astrid
is that the events going on are not caused by humans. The earth does its own thing as it always has. But we contribute some things that effect the atmosphere and environment in unhealthy ways. That did NOT create the quake or tsumanis, though.  


30 Dec 2004 @ 05:33 by bushman : Trasductive
elecrtomagnet energy, can come from a collective subconcious majority of thought at any given time. Like, if you could take every word spoken in a time space of all people talking on the planet, every once in a while we all say the same word at the same time world wide, if it was a thought in majority, it very well could affect the planets electromagnetic field in strange ways. I don't think our planet is litraly saying, you guys, knock it off or I'm going to knock you back into the stone age, lol. Also, common sence, don't build your house apon the sands, build it apon the rocks, so not to be washed away. Think thats in the bible. Anyway its pretty obvious that our planet has extreem cycles, that are not really acuratly recorded, I mean back then it would of been hard to do a rock carving, with lave coming your way or a tidal wave. And my guess is , if people where in closer assosiation with the planet, they would have noticed the animals heading inland a week before the quake. And I'm sure there was plenty of domesticated and wild animals that didn't heed whatever warning that the planet gave before it broke loose. There does seem to be a karmic sort of syncronicity going on, a reflection of old age, growing pains, or we are capable of litraly causing mayhem, that if enough people hated another group of people, they could cause geologic activity to the enemys land. Psyic wars of the future.  


30 Dec 2004 @ 06:51 by nemue : Reap what you sow
We have raped the earth and the animal kingdom for so long. We have an earth that is not in balance we take little heed to what happens around us. As pointed out animals have a sixth sense about impending disasters although around the Pacific / Indian oceans many whales and dolphins have been beaching themselves over recent days. Asteriod actively is increasing and may have (I believe it did) have some impact on what has happened over recents days. As I said, we a starting to reap what we have sown and there will be more.  


3 Jan 2005 @ 17:10 by bri_outten : By Jove, you lot have been busy!
Suffice to say
ladies and gentlemen,
I appreciate your comments and concur particularly with Bushman.
In essence the cause and effect explanation does,
in my opinion, hold some sway,
but collective consciousness does not,
in my opinion cause this event,
but something more scientifically based, perhaps by way of the sun's gravitational pull at this moment in time at this point in the earth's transition.

Nevertheless, we are out of tune with the Earth, yet I believe the Earth has a need from us and messages do get sent in one form or another although I feel that we do not really understand them fully yet.

Essentially, my belief is that science and the experts in the paranormal need to cooperate and to tie-in in order to grasp the picture fully.

Good luck all and hope you can send these poor people some much needed help, money and prayers.

Love to all  



14 Jan 2005 @ 02:18 by ov : It's technically possible
EcologyNews.com

Trust Vancouver to come up with more details on a "conspiracy theory". Might not be as far fetched as I had initially thought. Seems like this research was going back quite a few years and that it is technically possible to create tidal waves with explosives which reduces the question to one of would anybody be so immoral as to do something like this. Not that we will ever know, and so we can only assume there was no foul play, but only because we don't have any evidence to the contrary, and not because it isn't technically possible.  



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one day or year the earth will get one grade mor wen that hapens all the tectonic placs will fix ther selfs and all the earth will shakezupeda  


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The real problem is shoes! In lots of countries people nowadays walk upon mother earth with shoes on. This is only getting more and more with our so called "civilisation", the earth could handle when it was only like the romans wearing shoes but now it needs the barenaked contact of feet back.

If we never touch the earth directly the contact with the earth lessens and it will not care for us as much as it used to. Therefore more and more disasters will happen :).  



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